[collectibles] Jaguar Estate

On Discovery Channel last week featuring a classic car show, they
viewed a very old Jaguar Estate waiting for restoration. It was on
the Jaguar stand along with other classic Jag’s. Can anyone tell me
more about this car, as we do not have any recollection of Jaguar
ever manufacturing an estate. The presenter of the show went on to
show the restoration of an E-type in later programmes. I hope
someone can confirm this as my friends think I am nut’s.–
Davy
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i know that Arden did an estate version of the XJS during the 70s.----- Original Message -----
From: “Davy” dmcallister23@aol.com
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Subject: [collectibles] Jaguar Estate

On Discovery Channel last week featuring a classic car show, they
viewed a very old Jaguar Estate waiting for restoration. It was on
the Jaguar stand along with other classic Jag’s. Can anyone tell me
more about this car, as we do not have any recollection of Jaguar
ever manufacturing an estate. The presenter of the show went on to
show the restoration of an E-type in later programmes. I hope
someone can confirm this as my friends think I am nut’s.

Davy
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There is also a MKVII (or VIII or IX) estate, also a Mk2 estate. The Mk2
estate has been restored, and the other is in the process of renovation i
Believe.
Alastair Lauener
@Alastair_LauenerOn Fri, 21 Feb 2003, xavier wrote:

i know that Arden did an estate version of the XJS during the 70s.
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Avon also did a conversion on a s3 xj6.
Linkx converted xjs and called them the Eventer

Going further back there was a mk2 estate but this was a one off.

I have also seen mk8 and Mk 9’s converted privatley

But there have never been an offical factory estate

Patrick Walsh

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On the last pages of Exeter Books Jaguar edition, they show an XJS V12
“Eventer” by Lynx. Beautiful car!

John M.

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:07:20 -0500 xavier xavier@optonline.net writes:> i know that Arden did an estate version of the XJS during the 70s.

On the last pages of Exeter Books Jaguar edition, they show an XJS V12
“Eventer” by Lynx. Beautiful car!

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:07:20 -0500 xavier xavier@optonline.net writes:

i know that Arden did an estate version of the XJS during the 70s.

Nice machine - saw the last one being built at Lynx last year.

There’s a 1980s Lynx range brochure here:

http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/lynx_all.html

TonyOn Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:58:11 -0500, John M Morgan wrote:


Tony (W Sussex, UK) [XKR Coupe]
Jag-lovers Web Site Technical Admin
Jag-lovers Jaguar News List Admin
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Tony,

That’s the car! I’d love to have one, but I always bump my head when I
get into an XJS, except my wife’s convertible. I also appoached Lynx
about building me a C Type. Maybe in my next life.

Cheers, John M.> >> i know that Arden did an estate version of the XJS during the

70s.

Nice machine - saw the last one being built at Lynx last year.

There’s a 1980s Lynx range brochure here:

http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/lynx_all.html

Tony


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Hi Davy,

I didn’t see the programme, but I do remember that the Jaguar Enthusiasts’
Club bought a pretty rough Mark VIII or IX estate as a restoration project.
If the Club had a stand at the show, that might have been the car you saw.

As Patrick Walsh says, there has never been an official estate produced by
the factory. They did convert an XJ40 (which I think is still in the JDHT
collection), but decided that full production would not be cost effective.

I have record of:

1 x Mark V estate conversion.

6 x Mark VII/VIII/IX estates, including one that was converted from a hearse
conversion.

2 x XK 150 estates - one created by fitting a chopped Morris Minor Traveller
estate body, which actually lookes quite good and another by fitting a
sidecar body which looks quite hideous!

2 x Mark 2 estates - one, The County, was created by the coachbuilders Jones
Brothers to a design by Roy Nockolds. This was instigated by Mike Hawthorn
and Duncan Hamilton who tried to persuade Jaguar to put it into production.
They did not succeed, but Jaguar retained the car and it was still in use as
a factory tender in the early 1960s. I have heard of a Statesside proposal
to build replicas, but don’t know the outcome.

4 x XJS estates - Lynx (England), Arden (Germany), Les Ateliers Reunis
(French) and Burlet (Swiss). The French and German cars both drew clear
inspiration from the Lynx Eventer - the French car even using genuine Lynx
panels as moulds to make fibre-glass replicas. All bar the Swiss cars were
in series production. I was with Tony Bailey on the visit to Lynx to see
the last one built (No 67). I wrote the visit up in the May 2002 issue of
Jaguar Driver. That led to a correspondence with Dutchman Dik Samsom, who
owns one of the French cars. The resulting article should appear in next
month’s issue of Jaguar Driver.

At least 4 x XJ estates, including the Avon that looks very clumsy (and
which did not, I think, appear as an XJS version).

3 x XJ 40 conversions, including the one in the factory collection I mention
above.

Don’t know of any post-XJ 40 estates.

Best regards,

Ian Cooling
www.jaguarautomobilia.com----- Original Message -----
From: “Davy” dmcallister23@aol.com
To: collectibles@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:10 AM
Subject: [collectibles] Jaguar Estate

On Discovery Channel last week featuring a classic car show, they
viewed a very old Jaguar Estate waiting for restoration. It was on
the Jaguar stand along with other classic Jag’s. Can anyone tell me
more about this car, as we do not have any recollection of Jaguar
ever manufacturing an estate. The presenter of the show went on to
show the restoration of an E-type in later programmes. I hope
someone can confirm this as my friends think I am nut’s.

Davy
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Ian,

do you have pics of all of those?

The JEC magazine has a series of articles at the moment where fitting A/C to
an XJ40 is discussed, and the car they are working on is an XJ40 estate.
Good looking car.

If you have pics on your puter, I’d love to have them!

Cheers,

Jack Verschuur
Durban
South Africa> Hi Davy,

I didn’t see the programme, but I do remember that the Jaguar Enthusiasts’
Club bought a pretty rough Mark VIII or IX estate as a
restoration project.
If the Club had a stand at the show, that might have been the car you saw.

As Patrick Walsh says, there has never been an official estate produced by
the factory. They did convert an XJ40 (which I think is still in the JDHT
collection), but decided that full production would not be cost effective.

I have record of:

1 x Mark V estate conversion.

6 x Mark VII/VIII/IX estates, including one that was converted
from a hearse
conversion.

2 x XK 150 estates - one created by fitting a chopped Morris
Minor Traveller
estate body, which actually lookes quite good and another by fitting a
sidecar body which looks quite hideous!

2 x Mark 2 estates - one, The County, was created by the
coachbuilders Jones
Brothers to a design by Roy Nockolds. This was instigated by
Mike Hawthorn
and Duncan Hamilton who tried to persuade Jaguar to put it into
production.
They did not succeed, but Jaguar retained the car and it was
still in use as
a factory tender in the early 1960s. I have heard of a Statesside proposal
to build replicas, but don’t know the outcome.

4 x XJS estates - Lynx (England), Arden (Germany), Les Ateliers Reunis
(French) and Burlet (Swiss). The French and German cars both drew clear
inspiration from the Lynx Eventer - the French car even using genuine Lynx
panels as moulds to make fibre-glass replicas. All bar the Swiss
cars were
in series production. I was with Tony Bailey on the visit to Lynx to see
the last one built (No 67). I wrote the visit up in the May 2002 issue of
Jaguar Driver. That led to a correspondence with Dutchman Dik Samsom, who
owns one of the French cars. The resulting article should appear in next
month’s issue of Jaguar Driver.

At least 4 x XJ estates, including the Avon that looks very clumsy (and
which did not, I think, appear as an XJS version).

3 x XJ 40 conversions, including the one in the factory
collection I mention
above.

Don’t know of any post-XJ 40 estates.

Best regards,

Ian Cooling
www.jaguarautomobilia.com

Thanks Jack,

I think the car in the JEC mag is one of my three XJ 40 estates, though the
photo I have shows it with a different registration number - VSU 104.

'Fraid I don’t have pix of any of them on my machine, nor do I have a
scanner. My info comes from my cuttings file.

The best book on converted Jaguars (of all types, not just estates) is a
dual language French/English production called Metomorphoses de Jaguar. The
author is Roland Urban who assembled an outstanding collection of the cars
in the 1980s. Copies do come up on the net from time to time.

Best regards,

Ian Cooling
www.jaguarautomobilia.com----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: [collectibles] Jaguar Estate

Ian,

do you have pics of all of those?

The JEC magazine has a series of articles at the moment where fitting A/C
to
an XJ40 is discussed, and the car they are working on is an XJ40 estate.
Good looking car.

If you have pics on your puter, I’d love to have them!

Cheers,

Jack Verschuur
Durban
South Africa

Hi Davy,

I didn’t see the programme, but I do remember that the Jaguar
Enthusiasts’
Club bought a pretty rough Mark VIII or IX estate as a
restoration project.
If the Club had a stand at the show, that might have been the car you
saw.

As Patrick Walsh says, there has never been an official estate produced
by
the factory. They did convert an XJ40 (which I think is still in the
JDHT
collection), but decided that full production would not be cost
effective.

I have record of:

1 x Mark V estate conversion.

6 x Mark VII/VIII/IX estates, including one that was converted
from a hearse
conversion.

2 x XK 150 estates - one created by fitting a chopped Morris
Minor Traveller
estate body, which actually lookes quite good and another by fitting a
sidecar body which looks quite hideous!

2 x Mark 2 estates - one, The County, was created by the
coachbuilders Jones
Brothers to a design by Roy Nockolds. This was instigated by
Mike Hawthorn
and Duncan Hamilton who tried to persuade Jaguar to put it into
production.
They did not succeed, but Jaguar retained the car and it was
still in use as
a factory tender in the early 1960s. I have heard of a Statesside
proposal
to build replicas, but don’t know the outcome.

4 x XJS estates - Lynx (England), Arden (Germany), Les Ateliers Reunis
(French) and Burlet (Swiss). The French and German cars both drew clear
inspiration from the Lynx Eventer - the French car even using genuine
Lynx
panels as moulds to make fibre-glass replicas. All bar the Swiss
cars were
in series production. I was with Tony Bailey on the visit to Lynx to
see
the last one built (No 67). I wrote the visit up in the May 2002 issue
of
Jaguar Driver. That led to a correspondence with Dutchman Dik Samsom,
who
owns one of the French cars. The resulting article should appear in
next
month’s issue of Jaguar Driver.

At least 4 x XJ estates, including the Avon that looks very clumsy (and
which did not, I think, appear as an XJS version).

3 x XJ 40 conversions, including the one in the factory
collection I mention
above.

Don’t know of any post-XJ 40 estates.

Best regards,

Ian Cooling
www.jaguarautomobilia.com

Hello Ian,

We’re travelling to Paris in a month, some good book-shops, I’ll have a look
for that book there. Should bring up some nice ideas!

When are your travels going to bring you to South Africa? Life’s good here,
we’ll find you a project to work on:-)

Cheers!

Jack Verschuur.> Thanks Jack,

I think the car in the JEC mag is one of my three XJ 40 estates,
though the
photo I have shows it with a different registration number - VSU 104.

'Fraid I don’t have pix of any of them on my machine, nor do I have a
scanner. My info comes from my cuttings file.

The best book on converted Jaguars (of all types, not just estates) is a
dual language French/English production called Metomorphoses de
Jaguar. The
author is Roland Urban who assembled an outstanding collection of the cars
in the 1980s. Copies do come up on the net from time to time.

Best regards,

Ian Cooling
www.jaguarautomobilia.com

Hi Jack,

If only! I would love to spend some time in your country and see some of
those super cars you have. Maybe, just maybe once I have got my next
auction of my desk (it is already running disgracefully late so that has to
be top priority!).

Good luck with the book hunt. You might try e-mailing the French Jaguar
Drivers Club in advance. They are Paris-based and may be able to track down
a copy for you. Roland Urban is a member, so you might even be able to meet
up with him and have the book autographed! The Club’s e-mail address is
fjdc-admin@wanadoo.fr

If you have a day, why not pop over to Kent for a meet up? I’m based just 6
miles from Ashford International railway station - with direct trains
to/from Paris - and there is a great pub in the village! My phone number is
01233 812416 - if this looks to be a starter, phone me from Paris.

Fingers crossed!

Ian----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: [collectibles] Jaguar Estate

Hello Ian,

We’re travelling to Paris in a month, some good book-shops, I’ll have a
look
for that book there. Should bring up some nice ideas!

When are your travels going to bring you to South Africa? Life’s good
here,
we’ll find you a project to work on:-)

Cheers!

Jack Verschuur.

Ian,

Thank you very much for the info and the invite!

We’ll be stopping over in Paris for a day or 2 on our way to Holland, but if
we have half a chance we’ll pop over to the UK. In that case I’ll give you a
shout, I love the English pubs.

I’ll send the French club a mail and see if I can a signed copy; great
advice!

Cheers,

Jack Verschuur.> Hi Jack,

If only! I would love to spend some time in your country and see some of
those super cars you have. Maybe, just maybe once I have got my next
auction of my desk (it is already running disgracefully late so
that has to
be top priority!).

Good luck with the book hunt. You might try e-mailing the French Jaguar
Drivers Club in advance. They are Paris-based and may be able to
track down
a copy for you. Roland Urban is a member, so you might even be
able to meet
up with him and have the book autographed! The Club’s e-mail address is
fjdc-admin@wanadoo.fr

If you have a day, why not pop over to Kent for a meet up? I’m
based just 6
miles from Ashford International railway station - with direct trains
to/from Paris - and there is a great pub in the village! My
phone number is
01233 812416 - if this looks to be a starter, phone me from Paris.

Fingers crossed!

Ian
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From: <@jaguar>
To: collectibles@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: [collectibles] Jaguar Estate

Hello Ian,

We’re travelling to Paris in a month, some good book-shops, I’ll have a
look
for that book there. Should bring up some nice ideas!

When are your travels going to bring you to South Africa? Life’s good
here,
we’ll find you a project to work on:-)

Cheers!

Jack Verschuur.

In reply to a message from Davy sent Fri 21 Feb 2003:

Hi,
Check out http://www.lynxmotors.co.uk/pc0693.htm
Cheers
John–
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On Discovery Channel last week featuring a classic car show, they


1989 XJ-40 Sovereign White with grey interior
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