[collectibles] Leaper Mascot Numbering

Can anyone help me with this one?

Do all genuine leapers have numbers cast into the chest of the
beast?

And if so do they have any meaning?

Thanks.–
Michael Pain
Sydney, Australia
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Tony Bailey who is on this list did a series several months ago in The
Jaguar Enthusiast magazine. Some mascots have numbers on them and some do
not. If you have a specific mascot with number underneath on the body,
someone on the list should be able to identify it.

I have a somewhat rare mascot, the Desmo Leaper, one of the early mascots
and it has no numbers at all.

Cheers

Harry Parkinson
30 Coburn Avenue
Nashua, NH 03063-2736
USA
@Harry_Parkinson
603-882-9367

Hello Michael,On Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 11:57:57 PM, you wrote:

Can anyone help me with this one?

Do all genuine leapers have numbers cast into the chest of the
beast?

As Harry intimated, please go and read the scans of some articles
that I co-authored some years back in Classic Jaguar World. It’s
easier then trying to answer that here. Some do some don’t and
absence isn’t necessarily a sign of non-originality …

http://www.jag-lovers.org/cjw/#0221a

“This will be the the first in a series of detailed and carefully
researched articles on the Jaguar mascot and its various
derivatives spanning several issues. Your guides will be Jaguar
automobilia guru Ian Cooling, and Tony Bailey, owner of one of the
finest private collections of Jaguar automobilia in the world.”

Tony

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Hi Harry,

As Tony has said in his separate mail, our joint series of articles is a
good start point on this topic.

The first issue is to distinguish clearly between “official” mascots from
the factory and private enterprise offerings like the Desmo you have. The
second is, as Tony says, to be clear that the absence of a number, even on a
factory mascot, does not mean it is a copy. All pre-war and early post-war
mascots from the factory had no number.

Positive identification/valuation of a mascot would never rely just on the
number, especially if there are doubts about its provenance.

Regards,

Ian Cooling
www.jaguarautomobilia.com----- Original Message -----
From: “Harry Parkinson” harryparkinson@comcast.net
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Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: [collectibles] Leaper Mascot Numbering

Tony Bailey who is on this list did a series several months ago in The
Jaguar Enthusiast magazine. Some mascots have numbers on them and some do
not. If you have a specific mascot with number underneath on the body,
someone on the list should be able to identify it.

I have a somewhat rare mascot, the Desmo Leaper, one of the early mascots
and it has no numbers at all.

Cheers

Harry Parkinson
30 Coburn Avenue
Nashua, NH 03063-2736
USA
harryparkinson@comcast.net
603-882-9367

In reply to a message from Michael P sent Thu 20 May 2004:

Thanks, Harry & Tony.

I am reading through your articles.

There are a few mascots on E’bay without numbers, as you know there
are shonks about. I bought a set of ‘rare’ leaper book ends, the
chest cavity had been hollowed out, to save weight?, the seller
said that he could not see any numbers. It came packed in an
illustrated box showing the book ends that I bet wes printed in
China. I have been dudded.

Why do you say that some are un numbered?

Regards,–
Michael Pain
Sydney, Australia
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Hello Michael,

Thanks, Harry & Tony.

I am reading through your articles.

There are a few mascots on E’bay without numbers, as you know there
are shonks about. I bought a set of ‘rare’ leaper book ends, the
chest cavity had been hollowed out, to save weight?, the seller
said that he could not see any numbers. It came packed in an
illustrated box showing the book ends that I bet wes printed in
China. I have been dudded.

Ah those. Yes, they are rare. Not. In eBay terms, rare is when there’s
only five others up for auction at the same time… There are bargains to
be had though on eBay in Jaguar terms if you keep a close eye on it all,
but also a lot of rubbish. If anyone wants an opinion, they can mail
Ian or myself off list (not to say we won’t be bidding on whatever it is
of course!).

Why do you say that some are un numbered?

There are un-numbered in the sense that certain versions never had
numbers, i.e. they came like that from Jaguar. Certainly the pre-1955 ones
had no numbers we are aware of - those from 1955 through to the final
production of the approx 5 inch small leaper that ended in 1971 did and
they are nearly all catalogued in our articles. Be very wary though that
pre-1955 have been reproduced many times - and you probably know that
there are also a variety of home grown Australian versions of some of
these mascots as they proved too expensive to import back in the 50s.

However, you’ll find the small ones without numbers and they are still
genuine Jaguar. But they are not production mascots. They are more recent
and sold for decoration (although people do put them on cars).

There are two more parts to the articles - if you contact Jaguar World
Monthly back issues they’ll be happy to provide them to you at a small
price. Part 5 covered the modern mascots where part 4 left off and Part 6
covers the 'Prince Michael Mascot - a very rare beast dating back to the
late 1930s. Bit of a scoop as it was written with help from HRH King
Michael of Romania who even provided us with a photo to use in the
article! His letters are also reproduced in the article.

One day we’ll get round to Part 7 and cover the non-factory mascots such
as the Desmo and the Australian versions… Also the presentation material
that Jaguar produced featuring mascots as handles and corkscrews etc.

TonyOn Thursday, May 20, 2004, 10:39:02 AM, you wrote:

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