[collectibles] Re: Collectibles Digest V1 #15

With regards to the “lawn ornament” another possibility is that it may be a
saleroom display item which has migrated outdoors!

Regards,

Ian-----------------------------------------------------
Jaguar Automobilia Collector

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Date: 25 March 2000 02:23
Subject: Collectibles Digest V1 #15

Collectibles Digest Saturday, March 25 2000 Volume 01 : Number
015

In this issue:

Re: [collectibles] Jaguar lawn ornament
[collectibles] Acknowledgements
Re: [collectibles] Acknowledgements
Re: [collectibles] Acknowledgements


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:44:25
From: “Tony Bailey” tony@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [collectibles] Jaguar lawn ornament

Bill

IMHO you appear to have, rather than a ‘Jaguar lawn ornament’, an
'ornamental Jaguar for a lawn." As far as I know and can discover,
Jaguar were never in the lawn ornament business and no such item has
ever been recorded as coming from the factory. So the item you have is
either a 3rd party production, or maybe one made by an individual.

The largest official bronze Jaguar I am aware of at the moment was the
‘Jaguar Trophy’ presented to the Automobile Club de l’Oest by Jaguar
and approved by Sir William Lyons. In an internal memo dated 30/4/57,
Bill Rankin writing to Lofty England describes it as ‘14 inches long
from nose to tail, cast bronze mounted on a green onyx base’. He also
adds ‘are we expected to supply miniature replicas? If we are, there is
no difficulty as we can use our stock mascot with a bronze finish
mounted on an onyx base similar to the original trophy.’ .

I have photographs of the actual presentation of this trophy if anyone
is interested with what look like two smaller replicas in the same
photo. So, it doesn’t look like there is any connection here as yours
is nearly 5 times longer!

Looking at the picture you posted, it is clearly the mascot for which
the earliest factory drawings that exist are dated March 1955 and which
went into production that year for the 2.4 Litre Mark 1 saloon. It is
clearly identifiable by having fully outstretched rear legs rather than
the crouching position adopted by the first mascot (the production
version of which was based on an original Gordon Crosby designed mascot
of which I have GC’s original bronze cast that used to be on his own
SS). That design mascot was in production from 1938-1954. So, yours
must presumably date from at least 1955.

Are you sure it is bronze and not some other dense material plated to
resemble it? It would surely have acquired a fair patina by now if
bronze, as presumably no one would have highly polished it. Maybe it is
coated in a protective lacquer? There are of course large leapers used
at dealers of this sort of size but I don’t know if they were ever made
of bronze, the ones I have seen have been made of much lighter
material.

As for value, if it IS bronze then it would obviously have a good value
but your observation that the owner will let it go for a fraction of
the stated value is cause for concern. Having seen a large heavy
concrete leaper painted black in use as a garage door stop, I wonder if
one could make a similar 'bronze version given some time and
inclination… Some more photographs with detail would be of interest
if you have them.

Caveat Emptor applies here I suspect!

Regards

Tony

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:04:50 -0500, Bill McDowell wrote:

Gentlemen,
Firstly, let me thank you all for providing a wonderful list. I do enjoy
it greatly.

Is anyone familiar with the Jaguar lawn ornament that was produced in the
late 40’s or 50’s?

I recently purchased one and would like to know if anyone can shed any
light as to how many were produced or if anyone would like to fathom a
guess as to it’s value?

It measures around 66 inches (!!!) from head to tail and with marble base
weighs 110 pounds. Although I am told they were only finished in chrome,
mine is a highly polished bronze which makes it appear as if it is solid
gold.

The detail is excellent and it appears to be of very high quality.

The gentleman I purchased it from claims he bought it in 1951 in England.
I am suspicious of the exact date, but it is very old. He also says it was
recently appraised by an auction house at $5000 US. I am also slightly
suspicious of that, since he was willing to let it go at a fraction of
that
price.

Here is one pic News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines - AOL.com with more to
follow.

Any info you can provide would appreciated.

Thanks again,
Bill AKA daimlerboy
USA


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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:42:46 -0500
From: Michael Frank mfrank@westnet.com
Subject: [collectibles] Acknowledgements

Tony:

As promised, I have added an acknowledgements page to my website (I also
snarfed another one of your bitmaps ;-)). Please check it out, and let me
know if it meets with your approval:

http://www.westnet.com/~mfrank/lightweight.html

Thanks,
Mike


Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:39:03
From: “Tony Bailey” tony@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [collectibles] Acknowledgements

On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:42:46 -0500, Michael Frank wrote:

Tony:

As promised, I have added an acknowledgements page to my website (I also
snarfed another one of your bitmaps ;-)). Please check it out, and let me
know if it meets with your approval:

http://www.westnet.com/~mfrank/lightweight.html

Thanks,

Mike

Yes, that’s fine and thanks for taking the trouble and adding the
link:-) What I couldn’t find was the original page though with all the
Le Mans posters on? If it interests you, I also have loads of other Le
Mans stuff back to the 50s including original programs, photos and
other goodies. There are some excess Jaguar racing action photos going
up on eBay shortly, mostly from around the 90s with a few Le Mans ones.

If you look here:
http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/goodwood_revival.html
from the inaugural Goodwood Revival meeting in 1998 there are some
lightweight E-types in pics 8 and 16. I may have more somewhere.

Regards

Tony


Tony (Sussex, UK) [1998 XKR Coupe]
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:22:12 -0500
From: Michael Frank mfrank@westnet.com
Subject: Re: [collectibles] Acknowledgements

Tony:

The posters are at:

http://www.westnet.com/~mfrank/lemansposters.html

I’d be interested in any posters you might have to fill in the missing
years: pre-1953, 1955, 1958, 1959 and 1975. I’d aslo be interested in
memorobilia from the '63 Le Mans. A photo or bitmap is all I need.

BTW, I have some audio tapes of Jag radio ads from 1959…Mark IX, Mark
II, and XK 150 if you are interested. Also some old newsreel footage of the
'63 Le Mans, and a home video of the '63 Sebring.

Thanks,
Mike

At 08:39 AM 03/24/2000, you wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:42:46 -0500, Michael Frank wrote:

Tony:

As promised, I have added an acknowledgements page to my website (I also
snarfed another one of your bitmaps ;-)). Please check it out, and let me
know if it meets with your approval:

http://www.westnet.com/~mfrank/lightweight.html

Thanks,

Mike

Yes, that’s fine and thanks for taking the trouble and adding the
link:-) What I couldn’t find was the original page though with all the
Le Mans posters on? If it interests you, I also have loads of other Le
Mans stuff back to the 50s including original programs, photos and
other goodies. There are some excess Jaguar racing action photos going
up on eBay shortly, mostly from around the 90s with a few Le Mans ones.

If you look here:
http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/goodwood_revival.html
from the inaugural Goodwood Revival meeting in 1998 there are some
lightweight E-types in pics 8 and 16. I may have more somewhere.

Regards

Tony


Tony (Sussex, UK) [1998 XKR Coupe]
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Collectibles Homepage: www.jag-lovers.org/collectibles/
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Jag Auction Watch - www.jagweb.com/wpoc/awatch.html
Local JEC Site: www.jagweb.com/west-sussex-jec/


End of Collectibles Digest V1 #15