[concours] 61-3.8 e type front suspension


(Chester8) #1

Can someone share the correct finish for the front
suspension parts. Were they silver painted or anodized?–
Chester8
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(Dick Maury) #2

In reply to a message from Chester8 sent Thu 21 Jul 2016:

Most of the parts were cadmium plated. The parts are steel.
Anodized is usually for aluminum. The judging guide on the
JCNA site has all of this information and more.–
The original message included these comments:

Can someone share the correct finish for the front
suspension parts. Were they silver painted or anodized?


Dick Maury , Rebuild Dept.- Coventry West
Lithonia, GA, United States
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(Chester8) #3

In reply to a message from Dick Maury sent Thu 21 Jul 2016:

I could not find any reference to the finish of front
suspension parts in JCNA site. Hadocks references front
frame as painted with unpainted bolts and nuts. Assuming
cad plating on Nuts and bolts.–
Chester8
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(Robert and Darlene Stevenson) #4

Hi Chester,
The JCNA S1 Judging guide doesn’t mention the E-Type suspension as the suspension on all other Jaguar models is not visible it was felt that to judge the suspension on E-Type was unfair, in fact the guide states that the suspension and wheel wells are not judged. As far as the actual finish on the various suspension parts the finish appears to be cadmium. I’ve found that a sprayed silver enamel finish works well. At one time there was a paint called Lincoln smudge proof silver enamel that looked about the same as cad plating and it could be easily touched up. A black oxide finish was used on the subframe bolts while the nylocks were cad plated.
Bob
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Plymouth, Mi.On Jul 24, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Chester8 bruce@landplan.net wrote:

In reply to a message from Dick Maury sent Thu 21 Jul 2016:

I could not find any reference to the finish of front
suspension parts in JCNA site. Hadocks references front
frame as painted with unpainted bolts and nuts. Assuming
cad plating on Nuts and bolts.

Chester8
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(Mark Jagawar) #5

I have judged both in Concours The 61 I am presently building had Orig Cad plating on both upper and lower control arms, others were cad on the upper and black on the lower… Cad plating is just about extinct today… almost all platers use Zinc. I have seen people use chrome paint and with good results…


(Roger Payne) #6

G’day Chester,

There has been a lot of discussion re front suspension arms being painted black or cadmium-plated - but a subject of no interest to a JCNA Concours that doesnt judge suspension - but we do in Australia, so the subject was of specific interest.

The new Haddock/Mueller book extremely strong in matters 1961 E-types does say the early cars were painted black, but does not suggest any demarcation point where black-painted was superseded by cadmium-plating.

But another new book just out last week - E-TYPE JAGUAR RESTORATION MANUAL - Classic Motor Cars with David Barzilay, fully details the restoration of his 1961 RHD OTS - 850060. I don’t know its exact date of manufacture, but I would guess last week in June 1961, but started as a very original/complete barn find, needing total restoration - thus this dedicated book just on 850060!

I haven’t fully read it yet, but did note car was restored by CMC - apparently one of the top early E-type restoration businesses in the world who have done many of the very first - including the earliest E-type still surviving, the original Geneva Motor Show launch car 9600HP (plus others).
Anyway - the front suspension arms on this car were originally painted black, and have thus been restored back that way. This is consistent with other reliable original 1961 E-types, albeit exact month in latter part of 1961 where it seems cadmium superseded remains debateable.

Can you advise your 1961 E-types CAR NO., and if you know, its exact date-of-manufacture?
And how original is car that you are confident wishbones were originally cadmium plated? (I am not saying they weren’t, just a matter of confidence).

And having a 1961 - shame not to make the effort to restore it properly - you can get Cadmium Plating done in USA - many places I am told. Shame to zinc plate - I doubt anyone ‘prefers’ zinc-plating, more a quick expedient, and heaven forbid, don’t silver -paint, even if not judged in USA.

Be worth your while to buy a copy of the above mentioned book - pretty amazing detail regarding a 1961 E-type restoration, by one of best E-type specialist shops anywhere - not saying their are no mistakes, but still pretty good.

Roger


(Mark Jagawar) #7

Hi Roger, Car # is 875880 and build date is Oct. 23 1961 Car has 12000 miles on clock at start of restoration.