[concours] Formerly E-type Boot and JCNA Judging

Having been mentioned by name in some of the earlier correspondence, I
want to weigh in as one who understands the problem with JCNA Judges and
judging and one who is working on a solution.

Regarding the Boot Floor covering: Recognizing that some E-types had
flintcote anti-drum material in the spare tire/fuel tank area, and that
some did not, is good to know. Such information should be included in
all efforts to properly inform and train someone who might judge that
part of an E-type. A related question is… which specific cars had
flintcote in that particular area?

My Series 1, 4.2 Parts Book, p243, shows “Flintcote, in Luggage Floor
Extension Well” for the FHC but there’s no mention of it for that area
of the “Open Car”. Lacking full information as to which cars had it and
which didn’t, a well informed judge (who took notice of it at all) might
properly accept it either way.

The “Seminar Bulletins” or guides published by JCNA were/are prepared
and distributed by the seminar presenters at the Annual General
Meetings. These documents have attempted to bring forth some additional
detail regarding each model; detail not readily apparent in official
Jaguar
publications. The seminar bulletins were not intended as concours or
judging guides and, while well intentioned, some contain misinformation.

There is current full agreement within JCNA Directors that genuine
“Judging or Model Configuration Guides” are sorely needed to improve and
standardize judging throughout the JCNA regions. The trick is finding
people willing to draft such documents and then to have their contents
objectively “critiqued” by qualified owners and restorers as are found
on this list. The Jaguar Lovers network continues to be an invaluable
tool for exposing and hopefully validating the many “factory”
configurations of our Jaguars.

Only by strict adherence to judging by the standards contained in such
Judging or Configuration Guides, will cars be more accurately judged and
more truly declared “National” concours winners. Even with such guides,
there’s still the problem of how many points a particular blemish is
worth? 0.1? 0.5? In CA? In MA?

Meanwhile, judges examine vehicles from their personal levels of
knowledge of the specific model. Sometimes their knowledge is great,
sometimes it may be near zero and sometimes in between. The results show
just such wide variations and some criticism can be well justified.

I am personally heading a JCNA Committee working to re-format and
eliminate some prominent deduction inequities in the Non-Authenticity
portion of the JCNA Judge’s Instruction Manual. This is only a start;
the Judging Guides would be a giant leap forward. Any more author
volunteers?

Dick Cavicke
JCNA SW Region Director

Dick,
I might be willing to work on some kind of authenticity guide for driven
class 6 and champion class 12 which include the series III XJ6 and XJ12. I
don’t know everything but I’m familiar with the cars and JCNA rules. I have
judged in JCNA concours and shown my car in several. I would be willing to
put a rough draft out on this list and also submit it to JCNA and let
everyone critique it. That way, it would eventually get most of the errors
out of it. What kind of format did you have in mind?

John Testrake
84 xj6
President, Jaguar Assoc. of Greater St. Louis

In a message dated 12/1/00 4:07:41 PM Central Standard Time,
F8driver@pacbell.net writes:

<<
Having been mentioned by name in some of the earlier correspondence, I
want to weigh in as one who understands the problem with JCNA Judges and
judging and one who is working on a solution.

Regarding the Boot Floor covering: Recognizing that some E-types had
flintcote anti-drum material in the spare tire/fuel tank area, and that
some did not, is good to know. Such information should be included in
all efforts to properly inform and train someone who might judge that
part of an E-type. A related question is… which specific cars had
flintcote in that particular area?

My Series 1, 4.2 Parts Book, p243, shows “Flintcote, in Luggage Floor
Extension Well” for the FHC but there’s no mention of it for that area
of the “Open Car”. Lacking full information as to which cars had it and
which didn’t, a well informed judge (who took notice of it at all) might
properly accept it either way.

The “Seminar Bulletins” or guides published by JCNA were/are prepared
and distributed by the seminar presenters at the Annual General
Meetings. These documents have attempted to bring forth some additional
detail regarding each model; detail not readily apparent in official
Jaguar
publications. The seminar bulletins were not intended as concours or
judging guides and, while well intentioned, some contain misinformation.

There is current full agreement within JCNA Directors that genuine
“Judging or Model Configuration Guides” are sorely needed to improve and
standardize judging throughout the JCNA regions. The trick is finding
people willing to draft such documents and then to have their contents
objectively “critiqued” by qualified owners and restorers as are found
on this list. The Jaguar Lovers network continues to be an invaluable
tool for exposing and hopefully validating the many “factory”
configurations of our Jaguars.

Only by strict adherence to judging by the standards contained in such
Judging or Configuration Guides, will cars be more accurately judged and
more truly declared “National” concours winners. Even with such guides,
there’s still the problem of how many points a particular blemish is
worth? 0.1? 0.5? In CA? In MA?

Meanwhile, judges examine vehicles from their personal levels of
knowledge of the specific model. Sometimes their knowledge is great,
sometimes it may be near zero and sometimes in between. The results show
just such wide variations and some criticism can be well justified.

I am personally heading a JCNA Committee working to re-format and
eliminate some prominent deduction inequities in the Non-Authenticity
portion of the JCNA Judge’s Instruction Manual. This is only a start;
the Judging Guides would be a giant leap forward. Any more author
volunteers?

Dick Cavicke
JCNA SW Region Director>>