[concours] re:missing components and pinstripes

In message “re:Missing components”, Gregory writes:

For Mark Roberts: so, Mark, if I have read your comments about the E type
correctly, you would accept as correct a car configured correctly and
completely as Jaguar would have supplied it to any given market. In other words
,
if the car is configured as an American delivery car, then there should be
no, say, French market items on it (yellow headlamp bulbs). But a car configure
d
as it may have been delivered to Germany would be perfectly acceptable (and
therefore if a Series III xj saloon) would have to have the 7 inch headlamps
and other market-correct items. This seems very sensible and right. What would
you do now with an American market xj saloon that has had 7 inch headlamps inst
alled, seeing that they are the “correct” items that the car was designed to ha
ve (the smaller ones being an American aberration)? Canadian cars, could
of course have either size depending upon the year.

          Gregory Andrachuk

Gregory:

This is where it gets a bit stickier. Personally, I prefer the 7" headlamps
on the series I, II and III XJ cars, but in keeping with what is
“authentic”, the North American market should (must ?) have the 5 1/4"
headlamps. Any deviation, unless it can be shown that it was an available
option at the time the car was delivered, should be treated as a non-authentic
modification, unless the car is a 1987 or later Canadian spec. car
(XJ-6 or XJ-12), which came standard with the 7" lights.

But this raises another case that I know about. On the East Coast
of the US, there is a series II XJ-6C with a standard transmission,
and it has set the fastest time for the JCNA slalom course to date.
This car has X300 style wheels, not a factory option in 1975-77, but
in the concours judging, these wheels were acceptable as authentic.
Please, someone, explain to me how this can be true, because if it
is, then Gregory’s 7" headlamps on his 1981 series III would be
authentic for sure.

In message "Re: [xj] Down with pinstripes Chip writes:

All:

I need the correct pinstripe colour for a Regency Red 1976 XJ6L SII if
anyone has the exact info readily available. This is the single stripe.

Chip:

Not really wanting to be a stick-in-the-mud here, but I don’t think
series II cars came with pinstipes from the factory…but I could
be wrong. I do know that the series II cars for the UK spec
had “coach lines” that were more like our “anti-ding” strips, but
placed where you would find the pinstripes on the series III cars.

If there were pinstripes offered for series II cars, then for your
car and colour, the correct one would be a single gold stripe,
for the 4.2L engine, and no stripe if it was the 3.4L engine.

Cheers, Mark R.

Mark Roberts Phone: (613) 763-2924
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA Fax: (613) 763-3970
1988 VDP - SIII V12 email: @Mark_Roberts
1963 3.8L E-Type Coupe - 17 years into a 3 year project

For Mark: actually, Mark, I have in my possession numerous original
advertisements for Series I and II and III xj sedans. The Series I had
no pinstripes. The Series II cars are all shown with a single gold stripe, and
the xjc with a single black stripe. The Series III had either a gold, copper or
black stripe while the later North American version of the VDP had a
more subtle stripe. Up to 82 the stripes are single. From 83 on they are double
on all models, with the double stripe being also the correct one for the
V12 from 79 right through 92. The original British Series III catalogue
shows a single black stripe on a white car. These are what Jaguar refers
to as “coachlines”, either “single” or " double", and this is the way they
are described in the standard equipment for the body in the sales literature
(this is proof, by the way that a certain chief judge doesn-t know what
he is talking about). The metal strips which were offered as standard on the
British Daimler Double Six and optional on all other xj sedans, are
called “chrome finishers”, NOT coachlines. I my “humble” opinion, they do
nothing for the car. They are mounted just at the swage line. Now, my
feeling after reading the rules, is that the cars can be equipped with
any optional equipment, OFFERED IN THE YEAR OF MANUFACTURE. There is no
statement that I remember obliging a concours entrant to have only
the equipment the car was delivered with! That would make for pretty dull
viewing in the xj classes since all North American cars were delivered
without any possibility of options whatever! (In the catalogues under
OPTIONS: “NONE”). It is certainly legitimate to require options restricted
to the model year, but to point of delivery???

                                  Gregory Andrachuk

I don’t know a lot about XJ6s, but I do own a couple of brochures. Just thought I’d
add this, if it helps.

The 1974 brochure clearly shows a S2 XJ with a pinstripe, but the picture isn’t
clear enough or my eyes good enough to see if it is a single or a double.

The 1979 brochure shows a S3 XJ with two types of pinstripes, a silver XJ6 with a
very skinny red pinstripe (looks to be a double) and a black XJ12 with two very
wide gold pinstripes.

SK
62 OTS (can’t be an XJ6 because they didn’t make them in 62)

MGB@UVVM.UVIC.CA wrote:> For Mark: actually, Mark, I have in my possession numerous original

advertisements for Series I and II and III xj sedans. The Series I had
no pinstripes. The Series II cars are all shown with a single gold stripe, and
the xjc with a single black stripe. The Series III had either a gold, copper or
black stripe while the later North American version of the VDP had a
more subtle stripe. Up to 82 the stripes are single. From 83 on they are double
on all models, with the double stripe being also the correct one for the
V12 from 79 right through 92. The original British Series III catalogue
shows a single black stripe on a white car. These are what Jaguar refers
to as “coachlines”, either “single” or " double", and this is the way they
are described in the standard equipment for the body in the sales literature
(this is proof, by the way that a certain chief judge doesn-t know what
he is talking about). The metal strips which were offered as standard on the
British Daimler Double Six and optional on all other xj sedans, are
called “chrome finishers”, NOT coachlines. I my “humble” opinion, they do
nothing for the car. They are mounted just at the swage line. Now, my
feeling after reading the rules, is that the cars can be equipped with
any optional equipment, OFFERED IN THE YEAR OF MANUFACTURE. There is no
statement that I remember obliging a concours entrant to have only
the equipment the car was delivered with! That would make for pretty dull
viewing in the xj classes since all North American cars were delivered
without any possibility of options whatever! (In the catalogues under
OPTIONS: “NONE”). It is certainly legitimate to require options restricted
to the model year, but to point of delivery???

                                  Gregory Andrachuk

The additional information on pinstripes is helpful, thanks, but the silver
1979 car has a SINGLE pinstripe, not a double. The double was used that
year only on the xj12. The 3.4 engined car had no pinstripe,to differentiate
it from its up-market brothers, the 4.2 and the 5.3. But of course the
3.4 engined car was not sent to North America.

                                   Gregory Andrachuk