[E-Type] 3.8 e-type wiper motor internal wiring?

Hello all. I am now refitting the ancillaries to my restored 3.8
FHC. With the new wiring loom fitted the original short loom coming
from the DL3 wiper motor looks quite grubby and needs to be changed
prior to refitting the motor. Having washed the 5 braid covered
wires from the multi-plug to the motor with petrol using a small
stiff brush the colours on the braided cables are still unclear. I
will greatly appreciate if someone can tell me the correct coloured
cables to use in their respective soldered points within the DL3
motor.
I note 4 of the wires are attached/soldered near to their entry
point while the 5th longer wire ? green/yellow extendS round to the
further corner where it is fixed. The independent black earth wire
presents no problem.
Your responses will be greatly appreciated.
Eugene
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In reply to a message from old jag man sent Fri 16 Jan 2015:

Autosparks will sell you a new loom for about 5 quid.–
Andrew B. '67 S1 & S1.5 FHCs,'64 S1 OTS www.projectetype.com
Adelaide, Australia
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In reply to a message from abowie sent Fri 16 Jan 2015:

Hi Andrew, thanks for your response.

As I shall be sleeving the replacement 5 wires I am happy with that
even if a new loom is only a few pounds.

What I really want to know is: what is the colour sequence ( left
to right as one views with the wires nearest themself ) of the
replacement plastic coated wires ie green with yellow tracer etc as
in the main loom, which have their ends soldered in place and their
other ends going to the 5 way multi-plug with bullet connections.
The current original braided wires which I want to relace are
unidentifable in colour through age deteriation.
Cheers Eugene.–
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In reply to a message from old jag man sent Fri 16 Jan 2015:

Eugene,
I found a photo on the forum photo albums by searching for
wiper motor in the photos section. I have a diagram I
created when I rewired mine. I can email it to you.

The colors are:
Green to the thermal cutoff on the case
Blue/Green to the right side of the brushes and jumpers to
the other side of the thermal cutoff
Yellow/Green to the base of the magnet
Brown/Green to the pin on the left of the winding
Red/Green to the left of the brushes
White/Green to the pin on the right end of the winding–
The original message included these comments:

Hello all. I am now refitting the ancillaries to my restored 3.8
FHC. With the new wiring loom fitted the original short loom coming
from the DL3 wiper motor looks quite grubby and needs to be changed
prior to refitting the motor. Having washed the 5 braid covered
wires from the multi-plug to the motor with petrol using a small
stiff brush the colours on the braided cables are still unclear. I
will greatly appreciate if someone can tell me the correct coloured
cables to use in their respective soldered points within the DL3
motor.
I note 4 of the wires are attached/soldered near to their entry
point while the 5th longer wire ? green/yellow extendS round to the


john carey : (888373) Bettie IV - my '63 S1 FHC
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In reply to a message from old jag man sent Sat 17 Jan 2015:

If you need help. I can email you color codes and diagrams
schematics of motor, switch and parking switch.
Paul
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etypefun
Merced, Ca, United States
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In reply to a message from etypefun sent Sun 25 Jan 2015:

Paul,
You should post this material regardless of the reply, for
the archives, so others can use it. If your documentation
can be made into images, then put them into your photo
albums.–
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In reply to a message from old jag man sent Sat 17 Jan 2015:
If you need help. I can email you color codes and diagrams
schematics of motor, switch and parking switch.
Paul
etypefun@pacbell.net
Merced, Ca, United States


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I have a wiper motor that has 3 leads, the wiring diagram says there should
be 4. There is one on ebay that looks just like mine. Can anybody tell me
how to hook it up to the car?
David
68 XKE Coupe______________________________________________________
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In reply to a message from Dave Hammond sent Mon 26 Jan 2015:

The wiper motor on the 1968 is unique to that year, because it has
three leads. There will be a double red/green wire with a duplex
female plug in the engine bay loom into which a single (I think
red, but not sure since my car is in winter storage) lead from the
motor goes. The other two leads are usually ganged. Again if memory
serves one is brown and the other red and these go into a five-way
female plug, only two wires of which are used. I do have a picture
of the switch. Looking at the switch from the front, a red wire
with green tracer goes to the lower left spade connector. The brown
wire with the green tracer to the lower right connector. There is a
black ground wire that goes to the upper left. All three of these
wires have smaller female connectors than the other switches, so
it’s not possible to mix them up.–
The original message included these comments:

I have a wiper motor that has 3 leads, the wiring diagram says there should
be 4. There is one on ebay that looks just like mine. Can anybody tell me
how to hook it up to the car?


Nick Saltarelli '68 Cdn mkt E-type S1� OTS, '54 XK120SE OTS
Niagara, Ontario, Canada
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David, sending you a couple of pics taken before I tore the car
apart…mine is a '68…On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Dave Hammond dbh97530@gmail.com wrote:

I have a wiper motor that has 3 leads, the wiring diagram says there should
be 4. There is one on ebay that looks just like mine. Can anybody tell me
how to hook it up to the car?
David
68 XKE Coupe


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Les…'68 S1.5 2+2


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In reply to a message from etypefun sent Sun 25 Jan 2015:

Hi Paul, thank you for your offer of assistance, much
appreciated. I now have my motor rebuilt and ready to bench
test which I will do once I am sure of the correct procedure
to avoid any damage. Hopefully the archives will come up
trumps when I do a search on it.
Thought I should reply to you first as I just viewed you
post.
Eugene.–
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In reply to a message from old jag man sent Sat 17 Jan 2015:
If you need help. I can email you color codes and diagrams
schematics of motor, switch and parking switch.


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ARMAGH, United Kingdom
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here is a diagram schematic of the operation of sr1 and sr2 wiper motor. should help you bunch test.
etypefun
Merced

Park and switch diagram. Because the motor has no magnets, by reversing the field windings the motor runs backwards and the park switch stop the motor. The park which is located in the bulkhead behind the center instruments panel. Adjustable is done by turning a knurled knob on firewall (engine compartment). hope this helps.