I’ve got room in my garage, what a great looking E.
Mike & KoolKat----- Original Message -----
From: “George Cohn” gwcohn@bblabs.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:04 AM
Subject: [E-Type] '61 OTS on eBay
If anyone is looking for a very early '61 OTS. there is one on eBay right
now that is supposed to be the 100th LHD OTS built.
In reply to a message from Michael sent Wed 26 Nov 2003:
It is indeed a lovely looking car- as well it should be with a
$130,000.00 price tag. However, two things. Multi bladed (perhaps
a CoolCat?) rad fan, and what appears to be a non-typical jack, in
the photo of the boot/tool roll/spare etc. Is that the type of
jack that was issued with the first of the E’s? When did they
switch over to the more common type?–
The original message included these comments:
If anyone is looking for a very early '61 OTS. there is one on eBay right
~ It is indeed a lovely looking car- as well it should be with a
~ $130,000.00 price tag. However, two things. Multi bladed (perhaps
~ a CoolCat?) rad fan, and what appears to be a non-typical jack, in
~ the photo of the boot/tool roll/spare etc. Is that the type of
~ jack that was issued with the first of the E’s? When did they
~ switch over to the more common type?
Just curious, but isn’t the boot rubber installed incorrectly? Shouldn’t
it be mounted on the car and not the boot lid?
Funny what the sun does to the color of the head—looks yellow in the
sun----gold in the shade.
This one really defines what a trailer queen looks like----and, for that
$$$$$, is what it should be. No one in their right mind would drive it on
a regular basis---------.
In reply to a message from tom felts sent Wed 26 Nov 2003:
Tom,
All the very early E-types OTS’s had the boot rubber installed on
the boot lid. Mine is 1000 cars later and had the boot rubber in
the car.
One thing though, I thought the interior door posts should be black
and not interior trim colour.
Dave
'61 OTS–
The original message included these comments:
Do the words ‘‘museum piece’’ ring a bell?
Just curious, but isn’t the boot rubber installed incorrectly? Shouldn’t
Funny what the sun does to the color of the head—looks yellow in the
sun----gold in the shade.
This one really defines what a trailer queen looks like----and, for that
$$$$$, is what it should be. No one in their right mind would drive it on
a regular basis---------.
–
David Kerr
Pershore, United Kingdom
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I see that this car was restored by Dave Ferguson – just about
when he did mine. He had this car at the Palo Alto British Car
Show in 2000 or 2001, I think. Wasn’t this the one sold at
Barratt Jackson in 2000 or 2001 for over 100K – one of the
first E Types over that price recently?
I’d be very surprised if there was anything incorrect on a car
Dave did. He sure did a super job for me.
Jerry
Jerry Mouton '64 E Type FHC “Laissez les bons temps rouler!”
Jaguar Owner’s North American Tour - http://jonat.org
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004----- Original Message -----
From: “David Kerr” david@kerr2209.fsnet.co.uk
All the very early E-types OTS’s had the boot rubber installed on
the boot lid. Mine is 1000 cars later and had the boot rubber in
the car.
One thing though, I thought the interior door posts should be black
and not interior trim colour.
Check out “Original Jaguar E-Type” by Porter –
an identical OTS is detailed there # 8500030.
The door posts are interior trim color.
Jerry
Jerry Mouton '64 E Type FHC “Laissez les bons temps rouler!”
Jaguar Owner’s North American Tour - http://jonat.org
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004----- Original Message -----
From: “David Kerr” david@kerr2209.fsnet.co.uk
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: [E-Type] '61 OTS on eBay
In reply to a message from tom felts sent Wed 26 Nov 2003:
Tom,
All the very early E-types OTS’s had the boot rubber installed on
the boot lid. Mine is 1000 cars later and had the boot rubber in
the car.
One thing though, I thought the interior door posts should be black
and not interior trim colour.
Dave
'61 OTS
The original message included these comments:
Do the words ‘‘museum piece’’ ring a bell?
Just curious, but isn’t the boot rubber installed incorrectly?
Shouldn’t
Funny what the sun does to the color of the head—looks yellow in the
sun----gold in the shade.
This one really defines what a trailer queen looks like----and, for that
$$$$$, is what it should be. No one in their right mind would drive it
on
a regular basis---------.
–
David Kerr
Pershore, United Kingdom
–Posted using Jag-lovers JagFORUM [forums.jag-lovers.org]–
In reply to a message from tom felts sent Wed 26 Nov 2003:
Personal observation:
Were I financially capable of the $130,000 cost AND I liked OTSs (I
don’t), I’d drive the WHEELS off’n that thing! IT’S A CAR, fer
Pete’s sake! So…cogito, ergo ‘outta my mind,’ I s’pose!..
Just my 2 cents…!–
The original message included these comments:
This one really defines what a trailer queen looks like----and, for that
$$$$$, is what it should be. No one in their right mind would drive it on
a regular basis---------.
–
Paul Wigton, 1963 FHC, called Tweety!
Brighton, CO, United States
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on 11/26/03 1:18 PM, Jerry Mouton at jerry@moutons.org wrote:
Jerry, I don’t have that book so could you tell me if the picture is of an
original or restored car?
Bob
Dave,
Check out “Original Jaguar E-Type” by Porter –
an identical OTS is detailed there # 8500030.
The door posts are interior trim color.
Jerry
Jerry Mouton '64 E Type FHC “Laissez les bons temps rouler!”
Jaguar Owner’s North American Tour - http://jonat.org
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004
In reply to a message from tom felts sent Wed 26 Nov 2003:
Tom,
All the very early E-types OTS’s had the boot rubber installed on
the boot lid. Mine is 1000 cars later and had the boot rubber in
the car.
One thing though, I thought the interior door posts should be black
and not interior trim colour.
Dave
'61 OTS
The original message included these comments:
Do the words ‘‘museum piece’’ ring a bell?
Just curious, but isn’t the boot rubber installed incorrectly?
Shouldn’t
Funny what the sun does to the color of the head—looks yellow in the
sun----gold in the shade.
This one really defines what a trailer queen looks like----and, for that
$$$$$, is what it should be. No one in their right mind would drive it
on
a regular basis---------.
–
David Kerr
Pershore, United Kingdom
–Posted using Jag-lovers JagFORUM [forums.jag-lovers.org]–
This one really defines what a trailer queen looks like----and, for that
$$$$$, is what it should be. No one in their right mind would drive it on
a regular basis---------.
Indeed… that IRS photo is stunning. I’d bet it never looked that
good even in '61.–
–chuck goolsbee
65ots
arlington, wa, usa
In reply to a message from tom felts sent Wed 26 Nov 2003:
Personal observation:
Were I financially capable of the $130,000 cost AND I liked OTSs (I
don’t), I’d drive the WHEELS off’n that thing! IT’S A CAR, fer
Pete’s sake! So…cogito, ergo ‘outta my mind,’ I s’pose!..
Just my 2 cents…!
OK, if you don’t like OTS’s, here’s something a little cheaper and almost
new to boot:
In a message dated 11/26/03 10:48:21 AM Pacific Standard Time,
vrooomie@fastmail.fm writes:
<<
Personal observation:
Were I financially capable of the $130,000 cost AND I liked OTSs (I
don’t), I’d drive the WHEELS off’n that thing! IT’S A CAR, fer
Pete’s sake! So…cogito, ergo ‘outta my mind,’ I s’pose!..
Just my 2 cents…!–
The original message included these comments:
This one really defines what a trailer queen looks like----and, for that
$$$$$, is what it should be. No one in their right mind would drive it on
a regular basis---------.
Wigster,
Several years ago there was an article ibn Old Cars Weekly newspaper, written
by a famous car judge. He had a client who wanted him to buy (for the client)
the absolutely most perfect Continental MkII available. The judge found such
a car which he was convinced was perfect except it was the wrong color. When
the car was delivered, it had no brakes, and that was the beginning. In short,
the car was in horrible mechanical shape. It had been superbly restored
cosmetically as a work of art. While being repainted, it was discovered the body
had some serious plastic in it. The car had won many national awards for being
so concours perfect-his point was that the car was not really a car any longer,
but rather a work of art for display only. He also said he had totally blown
his assignment and had not done due diligence to ensure the car was sound
mechanically. As I recall he ended up having the engine and tranny rebuilt also
before it was over.
Best, MIke Moore
In reply to a message from tom felts sent Wed 26 Nov 2003:
Personal observation:
Were I financially capable of the $130,000 cost AND I liked OTSs (I
don’t), I’d drive the WHEELS off’n that thing! IT’S A CAR, fer
Pete’s sake! So…cogito, ergo ‘outta my mind,’ I s’pose!..
Just my 2 cents…!
The original message included these comments:
This one really defines what a trailer queen looks like----and, for that
$$$$$, is what it should be. No one in their right mind would drive it
on
a regular basis---------.
–
Paul Wigton, 1963 FHC, called Tweety!
Brighton, CO, United States
–Posted using Jag-lovers JagFORUM [forums.jag-lovers.org]–
In reply to a message from Robert and Darlene Stevenson sent Wed 26 Nov 2003:
Bob,
The E-Type in Porters book is a restored car.
It has stuck in my head about the door pillars always being black
the same as the dashboard and underpanels, no matter what colour
the interior is. Same as the boot being biscuit colour. I either
read it somewhere or or was told by one of the trim supliers
Dave–
The original message included these comments:
on 11/26/03 1:18 PM, Jerry Mouton at jerry@moutons.org wrote:
Jerry, I don’t have that book so could you tell me if the picture is of an
original or restored car?
Bob
Dave,
Check out ‘‘Original Jaguar E-Type’’ by Porter –
an identical OTS is detailed there # 8500030.
The door posts are interior trim color.
Jerry
–
David Kerr
Pershore, United Kingdom
–Posted using Jag-lovers JagFORUM [forums.jag-lovers.org]–
The book says it’s a restoration by David Worrow, “with
fanatical attention to detail and originality”.
However, all the other cars in the book are original, unrestored
cars, and there are lots of great photos.
Jerry
Jerry Mouton '64 E Type FHC “Laissez les bons temps rouler!”
Jaguar Owner’s North American Tour - http://jonat.org
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004----- Original Message -----
From: “Robert and Darlene Stevenson” bobanddarl@comcast.net
on 11/26/03 1:18 PM, Jerry Mouton at @mouton wrote:
Jerry, I don’t have that book so could you tell me if the picture is of an
original or restored car?
Bob
In reply to a message from Jerry Mouton sent Thu 27 Nov 2003:
Jerry,
I always wondered where he got his original aluminium rad from or
is it the original one which would seem odd since they tended to
leak and break down.
Dave–
The original message included these comments:
The book says it’s a restoration by David Worrow, ‘‘with
fanatical attention to detail and originality’’.
–
David Kerr
Pershore, United Kingdom
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I always wondered where he got his original aluminium rad from or
is it the original one which would seem odd since they tended to
leak and break down.
Dave
– >>
If that car is truly a trailer queen, and isn’t going on long trips, early
radiators ARE available. I have one, for instance, which could be made totally
functional with a little bit of epoxy-but I would not be comfortable putting it
on a car I expect to seriously drive.I’m confident there must be others out
there.
on 11/27/03 8:05 PM, MMoore8425@AOL.COM at MMoore8425@AOL.COM wrote:
Dave,
It’s not really a good picture but it sure doesn’t look like an original
radiator to me.
Bob
I always wondered where he got his original aluminium rad from or
is it the original one which would seem odd since they tended to
leak and break down.
Dave
– >>
If that car is truly a trailer queen, and isn’t going on long trips, early
radiators ARE available. I have one, for instance, which could be made totally
functional with a little bit of epoxy-but I would not be comfortable putting
it
on a car I expect to seriously drive.I’m confident there must be others out
there.