[E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

tab · November 28, 2001, 4:07am

Saw a reference to this on a Stag list. Apparently a 4 part show on the
DiscoveryEurope channel covering the restoration of a 4.2 E-Type.
Any of you european listers see it/tape it?
Thon

keith_Collins1 · November 28, 2001, 9:59am

Yes. Saw and taped.

I think there must have been some programs shown last week as the car was
well on the way to completion this week. The complete set of programs are
available on tape for 19.99 pds sterling. It gave a UK tel. no.

Regards

Keith 1970 2+2-----------------------------------------------------
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----- Original Message -----
From: tab14@mindspring.com
To: e-type e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:07 AM
Subject: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

Saw a reference to this on a Stag list. Apparently a 4 part show on the
DiscoveryEurope channel covering the restoration of a 4.2 E-Type.
Any of you european listers see it/tape it?
Thon

Paul_Bjarnason · November 28, 2001, 1:36pm

I would like to acquire these tapes. Does anyone have the phone # where the
tapes can be ordered?----- Original Message -----
From: “keith Collins” keith.collins@ntlworld.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

Yes. Saw and taped.

I think there must have been some programs shown last week as the car was
well on the way to completion this week. The complete set of programs are
available on tape for 19.99 pds sterling. It gave a UK tel. no.

Regards

Keith 1970 2+2

Click here for Free Video!!
http://www.gohip.com/free_video/

----- Original Message -----
From: tab14@mindspring.com
To: e-type e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:07 AM
Subject: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

Saw a reference to this on a Stag list. Apparently a 4 part show on the
DiscoveryEurope channel covering the restoration of a 4.2 E-Type.
Any of you european listers see it/tape it?
Thon

craig3p8 · November 28, 2001, 2:29pm

Paul,

I don't have the number right now but if no one else posts it before I get back in country I'll pass it on week after next.  One thing though.  It's possible that it will only be available in the European PAL format and thus will not be viewable in the US unless you have a multi-system VCR and TV.  But there are a few VCRs out that will allow a copy from PAL to the US format.  I'll let you know if I find the number and if I can find a US compatible tape.

Craig HastingsOn Wed, 28 November 2001, “Paul Bjarnason” wrote:

I would like to acquire these tapes. Does anyone have the phone # where the
tapes can be ordered?

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keith_Collins1 · November 28, 2001, 3:19pm

Will post the number in a couple of hours.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Bjarnason bearson@crosslink.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

I would like to acquire these tapes. Does anyone have the phone # where
the
tapes can be ordered?

----- Original Message -----
From: “keith Collins” <@keith_Collins1>
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

Yes. Saw and taped.

I think there must have been some programs shown last week as the car
was
well on the way to completion this week. The complete set of programs
are
available on tape for 19.99 pds sterling. It gave a UK tel. no.

Regards

Keith 1970 2+2

Click here for Free Video!!
http://www.gohip.com/free_video/

----- Original Message -----
From: tab14@mindspring.com
To: e-type e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:07 AM
Subject: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

Saw a reference to this on a Stag list. Apparently a 4 part show on
the
DiscoveryEurope channel covering the restoration of a 4.2 E-Type.
Any of you european listers see it/tape it?
Thon

keith_Collins1 · November 28, 2001, 3:35pm

Yeah a short 2 hours I know. Just realised how to get the number sooner.

Tel. no. 0117-954-9179

Have just rung the number and the only format they do is Euro PAL system.

Price confirmed as 19.99 UK pds including p&p, VAT etc.

Regards

Keith-----------------------------------------------------
Click here for Free Video!!
http://www.gohip.com/free_video/

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Bjarnason bearson@crosslink.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

I would like to acquire these tapes. Does anyone have the phone # where
the
tapes can be ordered?

----- Original Message -----
From: “keith Collins” <@keith_Collins1>
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

Yes. Saw and taped.

I think there must have been some programs shown last week as the car
was
well on the way to completion this week. The complete set of programs
are
available on tape for 19.99 pds sterling. It gave a UK tel. no.

Regards

Keith 1970 2+2

Click here for Free Video!!
http://www.gohip.com/free_video/

----- Original Message -----
From: tab14@mindspring.com
To: e-type e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:07 AM
Subject: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

Saw a reference to this on a Stag list. Apparently a 4 part show on
the
DiscoveryEurope channel covering the restoration of a 4.2 E-Type.
Any of you european listers see it/tape it?
Thon

Chuck_Renner · November 28, 2001, 4:50pm

FWIW, they do have a web page for this show:

http://www.discoveryeurope2.com/car/html/html/index.htm

A note on the video set though: it’s been edited down to two 90 minute
programs, and the site confirms that it is in PAL format.

chrisrog · November 28, 2001, 4:45pm

Perhaps if we all email the discovery channel in the US, they would play the program here…

Chris Rogers

e-type@jag-lovers.org wrote:

Paul,

I don't have the number right now but if no one else posts it before I get back in country I'll pass it on week after next.  One thing though.  It's possible that it will only be available in the European PAL format and thus will not be viewable in the US unless you have a multi-system VCR and TV.  But there are a few VCRs out that will allow a copy from PAL to the US format.  I'll let you know if I find the number and if I can find a US compatible tape.

Craig Hastings

Chuck_Renner · November 28, 2001, 7:27pm

Perhaps if we all email the discovery channel in the US, they
would play the program here…

I did this exact thing this morning. No response as of yet. Here’s what I
sent to them:From: Chuck Renner
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:01 AM
To: ‘viewer_relations@discovery.com’
Subject: Program on Discovery Europe

The Discovery Europe channel has recently run a series called “A Car is
Reborn”, detailing the restoration of a Jaguar E-Type:

http://www.discoveryeurope2.com/car/html/html/index.htm

I know quite a few people (myself included) who would like to see this
program in the US, be it on Discovery or TLC. There is a videotape version
for sale from Discovery Europe, but it is a shortened version, and is only
available in PAL format, making it impossible to watch on most US equipment.

Do you currently have any plans to air this program on any of your US
channels? If not, would a sufficient number of requests for the show help
to get it included in a future schedule?

Thanks

Chris_and_Christine · November 28, 2001, 10:10pm

I have just watched the last batch of these as they were transmitted last
night in UK. (I thought that I posted a note about this to the list when it
started but evidently didn’t - if you’re in the UK or get UK TV it is almost
certain to be repeated anyway). I taped all 15.

The series was a total of 15 half hour programs but less intros and adverts
is probably a total of 6 hours. Each episode had a few minutes on another
classic car and a few minutes with a race instructor testing a selection of
classic road/race cars around a very wet UK circuit (Knockhill, I think).
Both of these were quite nice drop ins to keep the general public interest
level up but would probably be excluded from the video. They probably came
to another hour and a half, so the total on the E was about 4 and a half to
5 hours.

This included choosing a type of car from a selection of classics which
appears to have been filmed after the restoration was complete, so it was
always going to be an E; buying a wreck; some nice interviews with Jaguar
people including Norman Dewis; being invited to the Jaguar 100 celebrations
after the restoration with a road test by Norman - who spends most of his
time with a full width grin on his face.

The car is a mid sixties Series 1 4.2 OTS which he chose based on the fact
that it had to be a Series 1 for him but that the 3.8 had uncomfortable
seats (!?) and a difficult gearbox (known as a theft deterrent to those of
us that have them). It had to be an OTS as well even though the fixed head
is a prettier car

If you know your car, there is very little that you would learn from this
and some of the statements seemed incorrect to me (without bothering to
check them). It’s a very light-hearted program which is enjoyable to watch
but has no real depth for anyone interested in serious restoration as there
is probably only three hours on the restoration itself (the strip down is
included and takes up an hour or so). He also has help from a complete set
of experts, who did the difficult parts such as most of the welding (yes it
was rotten as a pear needing new floors, rear wings, sills etc), the lead
loading, the painting, the engine rebuild and the trimming. The presenter,
Mark Evans, is genuinely enthusiastic and tries his hand at just about
everything. His mechanical rebuilds are almost all done from items in
plastic bags which led me to believe that he spent a LOT of money - I
suspect with SNG Barratt.

At the end, the car looks beautiful (maybe over restored to some) and is
given the thumbs up from Norman Dewis. Mark looks genuinely choked when the
roll out is performed. Some nice clips of him letting people sit in the car
who all go glassy eyed behind the wheel. Later he has to admit the cost
which comes to a mammoth 85000GBP or 130000USD, so it should look nice…

If you can get it, it’s a nice programme for the uninitiated or as
entertainment. Don’t expect it to be any sort of a guide for restoration
though.

BTW, in Europe most of our good VCRs play NTSC tapes, so it seems strange
that you don’t have the option to play PAL in the US.

Sorry, went on a bit above.

Chris (based in Spain)
1963 3.8 FHC> -----Original Message-----

From: owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org]On
Behalf Of Chuck Renner
Sent: 28 November 2001 17:50
To: ‘e-type@jag-lovers.org’
Subject: RE: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

FWIW, they do have a web page for this show:

http://www.discoveryeurope2.com/car/html/html/index.htm

A note on the video set though: it’s been edited down to two 90 minute
programs, and the site confirms that it is in PAL format.

Dave_Bernhardsen · November 28, 2001, 10:43pm

I’ve just sent them a message offering to author this video to DVD (that’s
one fo the services that my company provides). This would eliminate any
problems regarding the PAL format plus we could add in all of the tasty bits
that may have been left on the cutting room floor…

I’ll let you know if they respond.

Dave Bernhardsen
67 S1 FHC (MYMSTRS)----- Original Message -----
From: “Chuck Renner” crenner@dynalivery.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

Perhaps if we all email the discovery channel in the US, they
would play the program here…

I did this exact thing this morning. No response as of yet. Here’s what
I
sent to them:

From: Chuck Renner
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:01 AM
To: ‘viewer_relations@discovery.com’
Subject: Program on Discovery Europe

The Discovery Europe channel has recently run a series called “A Car is
Reborn”, detailing the restoration of a Jaguar E-Type:

http://www.discoveryeurope2.com/car/html/html/index.htm

I know quite a few people (myself included) who would like to see this
program in the US, be it on Discovery or TLC. There is a videotape
version
for sale from Discovery Europe, but it is a shortened version, and is only
available in PAL format, making it impossible to watch on most US
equipment.

Do you currently have any plans to air this program on any of your US
channels? If not, would a sufficient number of requests for the show help
to get it included in a future schedule?

Thanks

Chris_Thompson · November 28, 2001, 11:22pm

Just wanted to point out that there has to be an error in the previous mail.
We all know that you can’t possibly spend $130,000 USD on an E restoration

Chris
63 FHC

Later he has to admit the cost
which comes to a mammoth 85000GBP or 130000USD, so it should look nice…

I-----Original Message-----
From: owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org]On

Roger_Los · November 28, 2001, 11:48pm

I expect it was $1,300. Isn’t that what we all spend, or thereabouts?

From what I understand, that’s the going rate in Canada for a concours
restoration.

Myself, I’ve spent no more than, gee, $800 or so so far.

Signed,

Roger Los

~ -----Original Message-----
~ From: owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org
~ [mailto:owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org] On Behalf Of Chris Thompson
~ Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:22 PM
~ To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
~ Subject: RE: [E-Type] A Car Is RebornCc: My wife
~
~
~ Just wanted to point out that there has to be an error in the
~ previous mail. We all know that you can’t possibly spend
~ $130,000 USD on an E restoration
~
~
~ Chris
~ 63 FHC
~
~ -----Original Message-----
~ From: owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org
~ [mailto:owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org]On
~
~ Later he has to
~ admit the cost
~ which comes to a mammoth 85000GBP or 130000USD, so it should
~ look nice…
~
~ I
~ >
~ >
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soothsayer1 · November 29, 2001, 1:52am

Yes, once I picked myself up off the floor, I whole heartedly agree
with Roger, having spent about the same amount, give or take about
$7.50.
As for the other issue, yes dear, I’ll pick up some bread on the way
home tonight.
LLoyd

Roger Los wrote:>

I expect it was $1,300. Isn’t that what we all spend, or thereabouts?

From what I understand, that’s the going rate in Canada for a concours
restoration.

Myself, I’ve spent no more than, gee, $800 or so so far.

Signed,

Roger Los
Cc: My wife

Chuck_Renner · November 29, 2001, 5:22pm

I got the following message from Discovery:+++++++++++++++++++++++
Thank you for contacting Discovery Networks. It’s always great to hear from
our
viewers. We forwarded your suggestion about “A Car is Born” to our program
development office for their review. Unfortunately, due to the high volume
of
suggestions we receive, our programming management and executives are not
able
to respond and follow up directly with everyone. But please be assured that
our
viewer suggestions are very important to us and are taken into consideration
when making programming decisions. Viewer opinions and suggestions tell us
what
we can improve on and what our audience enjoys. It is these types of
observations that create change and improve programming.

In the meantime, we hope you continue to watch and enjoy our programs. If
you
have any further questions or comments please email us or contact us at
1-888-404-5969 Monday- Friday 8:00am to 6:00pm (ET).

Sincerely,
Josh
Viewer Relations
Discovery Networks
+++++++++++++++++++++++

Mostly boilerplate text, but they at least had to paste in the title of the
program…

So it probably wouldn’t for everyone to let them know that they’d like to
see it here. The address is Viewer_Relations@discovery.com

Dave_Bernhardsen · November 29, 2001, 6:46pm

here’s the response I got from the discovery channel:

"Hello Dave, Thank you for your recent email to Discovery Home And Leisure.
Sorry, there is no dvd of A Car Is Re-born available. Under the
circumstances, you may wish to contact the programme makers-i2i Ltd- to
discuss your business proposition. Visit www.acarisborn.com for more
background info.

Thank you for your interest.

Best Wishes

Jeremy/ Viewer Relation"

I’ve sent a message to the producers of the program to see if they’re
interested. Maybe I could get a reading from the people on the list. How
many would be interested in purchasing a DVD of this program…

I’ll let you know as soon as I get more feedback…

Dave.>

Chuck_Renner · November 29, 2001, 7:07pm

the list. How
many would be interested in purchasing a DVD of this program…

Well, I’d have to get a DVD player first…
Would it be mastered as Region Zero so it could be played anywhere?

Dave_Bernhardsen · November 29, 2001, 8:07pm

Absolutely…we’d use an all region setting so it would play anywhere in
the world…

Dave.----- Original Message -----
From: “Chuck Renner” crenner@dynalivery.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

the list. How
many would be interested in purchasing a DVD of this program…

Well, I’d have to get a DVD player first…
Would it be mastered as Region Zero so it could be played anywhere?

Harold_Robertson · November 30, 2001, 2:17am

Me me me !!! I’ll buy one!

–Harold

Harold Robertson (unrestored driver)
Redding, California, USA
68 FHC 2+2 (unrestored driver) 1E78833BW
71 Volvo 1800e (unrestored driver)
http://home.pacbell.net/p1800guy/> From: Dave Bernhardsen dave@innotechusa.com

Organization: Innotech, Inc.
Reply-To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:46:08 -0800
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: Re: [E-Type] A Car Is Reborn

here’s the response I got from the discovery channel:

"Hello Dave, Thank you for your recent email to Discovery Home And Leisure.
Sorry, there is no dvd of A Car Is Re-born available. Under the
circumstances, you may wish to contact the programme makers-i2i Ltd- to
discuss your business proposition. Visit www.acarisborn.com for more
background info.

Thank you for your interest.

Best Wishes

Jeremy/ Viewer Relation"

I’ve sent a message to the producers of the program to see if they’re
interested. Maybe I could get a reading from the people on the list. How
many would be interested in purchasing a DVD of this program…

I’ll let you know as soon as I get more feedback…

Dave.

engl · November 30, 2001, 12:12am

As long as the DVD cost isn’t exorbitant, I’d be interested.

Bob
'69 2+2