[E-Type] cd roms on ebay

George Shabatura wrote:

anybody bought any of these off Ebay?
for 18 dollars
seems reasonable
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2417603697&category=6762

Yep. Official Jaguar Heritage Trust reprint of the parts and service
manuals for the S1 & S2 cars. Also has some pictures of various clips
and clamps although they all aren’t used on an e-type.

Done in Adobe PDF format so it should work for both PC and Mac users.

Someone mentioned copies, that particular one seems to be an original as
that’s where I got one and it has all the proper Jaguar trademarks and
labels, even on the plastic case.

Obviously they had to come from the JDHT so I don’t feel bad about mine.

There is someone else on eBay who I believe is selling copies of the
original.

George Cohn
'70 OTS

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anybody bought any of these off Ebay?
for 18 dollars
seems reasonable
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2417603697&category=6762

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George,
I’m supposed to have one coming in the mail now. I should have it by
mid-week. I’ve seen them listed for 2X as much.
Cliff----- Original Message -----
From: “George Shabatura”

anybody bought any of these off Ebay?
for 18 dollars seems reasonable

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2417603697&category=6762

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George,

I have one, but I purchased it from the JDHT, not ebay. Quite frankly,
reproduced photo or not, I felt it was the best way I could be sure I was
not getting an illegal copy, and the most current version. It was also nice
to know that I was sending my money directly to the JDHT which helps us keep
our cars on the road by making these resources available.

As listed on the website it was approximately $24.00 USD including shipping.
See http://www.jag-lovers.org/jagcds.php3 for details on ordering a copy
from the JDHT.

As for the ebay listing, there are legitimate resellers offering these CD’s,
and the ebay seller may be one of them.

Jim

anybody bought any of these off Ebay?
for 18 dollars seems reasonable

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2417603697&cat
egory=6762

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In reply to a message from George Shabatura sent Sun 1 Jun 2003:

It works fine but that is a copy.–

  • vilamoura2002 * 1992 XJ-S V12 Conv - 1968 E-type S 1.5 OTS
    Vilamoura, Portugal
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thanks Cliff
guess I’ll give it a try----- Original Message -----
From: “Cliff Burk” cburk@kiva.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] cd roms on ebay

George,
I’m supposed to have one coming in the mail now. I should have it by
mid-week. I’ve seen them listed for 2X as much.
Cliff

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I did make a donation on the last fund raiser
so maybe it evens out
what would make it not current?
after all it’s been almost 30 years since the last E was manufactured
don’t we all try & save a little money when we can?----- Original Message -----
From: “James Frey” jmfrey@alltel.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: [E-Type] cd roms on ebay

George,

I have one, but I purchased it from the JDHT, not ebay. Quite frankly,
reproduced photo or not, I felt it was the best way I could be sure I was
not getting an illegal copy, and the most current version. It was also
nice
to know that I was sending my money directly to the JDHT which helps us
keep
our cars on the road by making these resources available.
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his ad says it’s original
false advertising?----- Original Message -----
From: “vilamoura2002” vilamoura@rocketmail.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] cd roms on ebay

In reply to a message from George Shabatura sent Sun 1 Jun 2003:

It works fine but that is a copy.

  • vilamoura2002 * 1992 XJ-S V12 Conv - 1968 E-type S 1.5 OTS
    Vilamoura, Portugal
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Perhaps you were thinking of a donation you made to J-L? The JDHT (Jaguar
Daimler Heritage Trust) is a different organization, associated with Jaguar
Cars. IMO, I think its an organization worth supporting in the hopes that
Jaguar will view its continued existence as a viable proposition. See
http://www.jaguarcars.com/uk/jdht/history.html

As for a current edition, the JDHT has periodically updated the software
used to deliver the information as well as added information to certain
titles. For example, I was told that they are currently working on a new
version of the XJ12 CD (through the Series 3 cars) which will add some
material not presently on the now-current CD. The last year for the Series
3 XJ12 cars was 1992, so they have been out of production for 11 years. I
don’t know when the last time the JDHT has updated the E-Type CD, but I know
it has been updated.

Regarding saving money, there’s certainly nothing wrong with that if it’s
legal and not a bootleg copy; at least that’s my point of view.

Jim

George wrote:
I did make a donation on the last fund raiser
so maybe it evens out
what would make it not current?
after all it’s been almost 30 years since the last E was manufactured
don’t we all try & save a little money when we can?

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In reply to a message from George Cohn sent Sun 1 Jun 2003:

I bought some of these CD’s from JDHT. They are high-quality scans
of the original manuals. I am in the process of converting mine to
be searchable in PDF and EXCEL. It isn’t easy becasue the scans
aren’t perfect and the formatting used in these manuals is very
difficult to work with. When I’m done, I’ll let you all know.

However, in the process I found that several pages were missing
from several of the manuals. Since I purchased from JDHT, an email
from me to them was reciprocated by a ‘‘thank you’’ and scans of the
missing pages. Try to get that kind of service from a bootlegger!–
'70 E Roadster, '98 XK8 Roadster, '02 Mini Cooper
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George and fellow Listers,

Funny this subject should come up today - - - as I picked up the three disks
I ordered from these folks at the P.O. Box as a side trip after securing the
Sunday paper this morning.

I ordered 3 separate disks, one disk is numbered JHM1119 and covers
both the series 1 and 2 cars from 1961 through 1970. The second disk
is numbered JHM1151 and covers the Series 3 V12 E-Type. The third
disk does not list a manual or part number on the label and it covers the
electrical systems of all E-Types from 61 through 74.

Disks 1 & 2 show the JDHT logo on the disk label and also show it on
the opening screen page. Both of these disks appear to match the
printed manuals based on a selected sampling I did. By selecting a
numbered page in the printed manual (Page XXX) and then calling up
the same page (XXX) on the disk, both pages were identical.

Disks 1 & 2 contain the complete service manual and parts manual for
all three series of cars. Now don’t you Series 2 guys all excited just yet,
the S2 parts manual is identical to the printed version - NO PICTURES!

The third disk, containing the electrical systems, is a nice feature in that
it provides a very detailed description of all things electrical in one
document. The Series 1 & 2 cars are listed in a section by themselves
as is the Series 3 model cars.

The price for all three was $49.00 plus shipping. They were priced as
follows: S1&2 at $18.00, S3 at $18.00, and Electrical Systems at
$13.00. Shipping for each disk was listed at $3.50 but I contacted
the seller prior to the actual purchase and he advised that shipping for
the 3 disks together would be $5.50. I should note that I hate to wait
and get beat out at the last moment so I used the BUY NOW feature
on eBay.

PROS

Can’t say enough good about them. Price wise you cannot go wrong
and one disk with the maintenance and parts manual is about TEN
to FIFTEEN PERCENT the cost of the same printed ones based on
my experience.

The material is indexed so it is easy to go to the exact section you
desire. Put the mouse on it and you are there…!

I plan to use them in the garage instead of the nice fresh crispy printed
manuals I purchased some time ago. Hence, no grease, grime, or oil
blobs to muck up the nice original manuals. Simply take the laptop to
the garage, insert the disk, and have at it.

Another nice part of having the CD’s is that I can print out the pages or
section I need for a particular problem and take them to the garage or
to wherever the car stopped running.

It will be nice to have a CD and the laptop along when I’m traveling (if
I ever get the %^&#!$ things finished) because I not only have the
maintenance manual, I also have the part numbers if I need to get on
the phone and have something shipped.

CONS
The wiring diagrams for the E-Types are somewhere twixt lousy and
really bad and probably no fault of the scanner operator that worked
up the material. The ones in the printed manuals were bad to begin
with, probably based on the fact that they tried to put too much info in
too small a space.

Overall, they are a fine product and are sold at a very fair & reasonable
price. My personal feeling is that they should be a welcome addition
to the E-Type folks and will last a loon time without yellowing or getting
a rip, tear or grease spot on the pages.

No, I’m not related to the seller by birth or marriage, just a satisfied
E-Type
owner, now armed with an easier way to retrieve info.

Mike O’
'67 FHC
'70 2+2
'72 2+2_____________________________________

----- Original Message -----
From: “George Shabatura” etype72@attbi.com
To: “etype” e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: [E-Type] cd roms on ebay

anybody bought any of these off Ebay?
for 18 dollars
seems reasonable

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2417603697&category=6762

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