[E-Type] Does anyone have a part # for K & N filters

I would like to have 3 K&N filters on my SU-HD8 carbs, does anyone
know the part # . Or what is the bore size of these carbs , so that
K&N Tech can help me out. Any help is greatly appreciated.–
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OK Wiggy, here’s your chance! I have K&N’s on my 64, don’t know the
part number but they are the same as the GTO tri-power setup. I made
the end caps from 1/8 aluminum plate. The bore is 2".
Bob
889076
Plymouth, Mi.On Jun 16, 2005, at 3:12 PM, broken anvil wrote:

I would like to have 3 K&N filters on my SU-HD8 carbs, does anyone
know the part # . Or what is the bore size of these carbs , so that
K&N Tech can help me out. Any help is greatly appreciated.

broken anvil
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In reply to a message from broken anvil sent Thu 16 Jun 2005:

Um…May I make a suggestion? Don’t.
IF you have the stock setup and IF you’re going to drive your
car on a semi-regular basis…stay with stock.
'Nuff said…;)–
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I would like to have 3 K&N filters on my SU-HD8 carbs, does anyone
know the part # . Or what is the bore size of these carbs , so that
K&N Tech can help me out. Any help is greatly appreciated.


Paul Wigton, keeper of Tweety!
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In reply to a message from Robert Stevenson sent Thu 16 Jun 2005:

See below…;)))–
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OK Wiggy, here’s your chance! I have K&N’s on my 64, don’t know the
part number but they are the same as the GTO tri-power setup. I made
the end caps from 1/8 aluminum plate. The bore is 2’’.


Paul Wigton, keeper of Tweety!
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In reply to a message from Wiggles sent Thu 16 Jun 2005:

…alternatively…above. LOL!!!–
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See below…;)))

OK Wiggy, here’s your chance! I have K&N’s on my 64, don’t know the
part number but they are the same as the GTO tri-power setup. I made
the end caps from 1/8 aluminum plate. The bore is 2’’.


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I would like to have 3 K&N filters on my SU-HD8 carbs, does anyone
know the part # . Or what is the bore size of these carbs , so that
K&N Tech can help me out. Any help is greatly appreciated.

I’ll trade you my K&N’s for your stock setup if it will get P&W* to
promise never to react to a post about K&N’s ever again. =)

  • P&W = Paul Wig(insert suffix here)–
    –chuck goolsbee
    65ots, 1E10715
    arlington, wa, usa

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In reply to a message from broken anvil sent Thu 16 Jun 2005:

I have been around cars and racing for over 40 years and I fail to
see what K&N brings to the table other than a mess to deal with.
There is no additional usable power to be had and the very real
problem of overoiling and all the difficulties this entails,
including a cruddy intake manifold runner. The filters don’t filter
consistently and and have to be cleaned which is another mess. Good
paper filters are a better mechanism and the E-type configuraton is
especially good as far as flow rate and particulate control. I have
always thought that the washable filter appealed due to the bright,
attractive colors they come in!–
The original message included these comments:

I would like to have 3 K&N filters on my SU-HD8 carbs, does anyone
know the part # . Or what is the bore size of these carbs , so that
K&N Tech can help me out. Any help is greatly appreciated.


Brian Caro
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In a message dated 6/16/2005 1:35:04 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
bcaro@cmlarchs.com writes:

I have
always thought that the washable filter appealed due to the bright,
attractive colors they come in!

Big Roger THAT!

Best, Mike Moore

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In reply to a message from chuck goolsbee sent Thu 16 Jun 2005:

It’s my job. Any less of a response, youse guys’d think me ill, or
dead!..:wink:
And I saw through your thinly veiled attem…Hey!! YOU have a K&N
setup…AHA!! Now I gotcha!..
hehehehe…

P&Wig*–
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I’ll trade you my K&N’s for your stock setup if it will get P&W* to
promise never to react to a post about K&N’s ever again. =)

  • P&W = Paul Wig(insert suffix here)


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In reply to a message from broken anvil sent Thu 16 Jun 2005:

This one was like putting scotch in front of an AA member!

Brian you are in good company.

Paul, I’d like to introduce you to Brian…

I’m sorry guys, I just couldn’t resist.

heh heh heh!–
David Ahlers
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It’s my job. Any less of a response, youse guys’d think me ill, or
dead!..:wink:

That is true. At times though I think this could be solved programatically:

#Wiggy’s “deadman switch” script…
If
mail content includes
“K&N” or " K & N"
and
“Filter” or “Filters”
then
include

hit “send”
end

We’d never know you’ve keeled over Paul!–
–chuck goolsbee
65ots, 1E10715
arlington, wa, usa

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In reply to a message from Brian Caro sent Thu 16 Jun 2005:

Brian,
K&Ns are dry paper filters, not oiled, so there is no mess.
That said, I wouldn’t be caught dead with K&Ns on a car I cared
about. They provide no additional performance (unless you truly
believe you’ll feel one extra horsepower at 5000RPM, and they allow
twice as much dirt into your expensive engine. K&Ns are a
fashion statement, and nothing more. Give me the stock setup any
day.–
The original message included these comments:

I have been around cars and racing for over 40 years and I fail to
see what K&N brings to the table other than a mess to deal with.
There is no additional usable power to be had and the very real
problem of overoiling and all the difficulties this entails,
including a cruddy intake manifold runner. The filters don’t filter
consistently and and have to be cleaned which is another mess. Good

Brian Caro


Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
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Ray Livingston wrote:

In reply to a message from Brian Caro sent Thu 16 Jun 2005:

Brian,
K&Ns are dry paper filters, not oiled, so there is no mess.

Actually Ray, there are, or were, some oiled K&N’s. I had one on my
240Z for a couple of years. It was a green foam thing that you sprayed
some sort of oil on. You could take the foam off periodically and wash
and re-oil it. It was custom made to replace the oblong paper element.

Haven’t used one in 15 years, though.

George Cohn
'70 OTS

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In reply to a message from George Cohn sent Fri 17 Jun 2005:

George,
I know they were oiled, but, as you said, I haven’t seen that
kind sold in eons. K&Ns are like STP: basically a useless
product, but with great marketing, that convinces people to lay
down their hard-earned money, and believe they’re getting some
magical benefit. Of all the dyno tests I’ve ever seen on K&N
filters, the benefit was never more the a few HP at the very top
end, and that was on big Detroit V-8s. Trading good filtration on
an expensive engine for that kind of gain is just silly, IMHO.–
Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
Santa Cruz, CA, United States
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Hmmm- If that’s the case why does the K&N recharger kit include a
spray can of oil to use on the filters?
Bob
889076
Plymouth,Mi.On Jun 16, 2005, at 10:05 PM, Ray Livingston wrote:

In reply to a message from Brian Caro sent Thu 16 Jun 2005:

Brian,
K&Ns are dry paper filters, not oiled, so there is no mess.
That said, I wouldn’t be caught dead with K&Ns on a car I cared
about. They provide no additional performance (unless you truly
believe you’ll feel one extra horsepower at 5000RPM, and they allow
twice as much dirt into your expensive engine. K&Ns are a
fashion statement, and nothing more. Give me the stock setup any
day.

The original message included these comments:

I have been around cars and racing for over 40 years and I fail to
see what K&N brings to the table other than a mess to deal with.
There is no additional usable power to be had and the very real
problem of overoiling and all the difficulties this entails,
including a cruddy intake manifold runner. The filters don’t filter
consistently and and have to be cleaned which is another mess. Good

Brian Caro


Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
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In reply to a message from Robert Stevenson sent Fri 17 Jun 2005:

Bob,
They may include some sticky spray, but I don’t think that’s
particularly messy. Is even that still used? The ones I’ve seen
used nothing at all, and the element is just very porous filter
paper. What we were talking about was the old oil bath filters,
where you’d dip the filter element in motor oil. Messy, messy old
things.–
Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
Santa Cruz, CA, United States
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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Fri 17 Jun 2005:

Actually Ray, the dry K&Ns aren’t paper filters at all - or at
least not the ones I’ve seen on bikes. They are a kind of cloth
sandwiched between wire mesh. And there are some applications where
paper filters are a big no-no, such as off-road bikes. The reason
is less to do with particulate extraction efficiency but space
constraintes and resistance to water ingress. When ‘bit-part’
automotive players like, errr, Honda and Yamaha, fit oiled-foam
filters you know they are good for something.

My biggest caution against our enquirer fitting K&Ns is loss of the
stock ram pipes on the SUs. If he’s not going to use his E-type as
a daily driver or in very dusty conditions and he changes the oil
regularly, then the increased bore wear won’t be a huge deal on a
high days and holidays ‘classic’. But sticking a K&N or any other
pancake or similar filter onto an SU will lose the tractability and
pick-up benefits of the long trumpets and plenum chamber you get
with the stock set up. If I were ever going to mess with the
filtration I’d do it with a different element in the standard
tinware. But then you don’t get the ‘eye candy’ effect some people
look for. It’s the old ‘Form over function’ debate I suppose.–
Peter Crespin 94 X300 Daimler / 66 2+2 ‘E’
Buxton, United Kingdom
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The air cleaners on my AH 3000 (original ones) have some wire mesh stuff
inside them and they need to be “treated” to an oil bath occasionallt.
MESSY is correct for them also.

[Original Message]
From: Ray Livingston jagboy@pacbell.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Date: 6/17/05 5:08:46 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Does anyone have a part # for K & N filters

In reply to a message from Robert Stevenson sent Fri 17 Jun 2005:

Bob,
They may include some sticky spray, but I don’t think that’s
particularly messy. Is even that still used? The ones I’ve seen
used nothing at all, and the element is just very porous filter
paper. What we were talking about was the old oil bath filters,
where you’d dip the filter element in motor oil. Messy, messy old
things.

Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
Santa Cruz, CA, United States
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Ray, The really messy filters were the foam Filtrons that we used on
our dirt bikes. After a weekend of racing threw the woods in upper
Michigan, especially if we were going through a dry spell, these
things looked like they had a severe case of the cruds but they did
work pretty well.
BobOn Jun 17, 2005, at 1:06 AM, Ray Livingston wrote:

In reply to a message from Robert Stevenson sent Fri 17 Jun 2005:

Bob,
They may include some sticky spray, but I don’t think that’s
particularly messy. Is even that still used? The ones I’ve seen
used nothing at all, and the element is just very porous filter
paper. What we were talking about was the old oil bath filters,
where you’d dip the filter element in motor oil. Messy, messy old
things.

Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
Santa Cruz, CA, United States
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Now Ray, you know that simply isn’t true… why, the 4 banger rice rockets (when coupled with tin can exhaust tip) gain about 80hp.
pauls 67ots

In reply to a message from George Cohn sent Fri 17 Jun 2005:

George,
I know they were oiled, but, as you said, I haven’t seen that
kind sold in eons. K&Ns are like STP: basically a useless
product, but with great marketing, that convinces people to lay
down their hard-earned money, and believe they’re getting some
magical benefit. Of all the dyno tests I’ve ever seen on K&N
filters, the benefit was never more the a few HP at the very top
end, and that was on big Detroit V-8s. Trading good filtration on
an expensive engine for that kind of gain is just silly, IMHO.


Ray Livingston
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Subject: Re: [E-Type] Does anyone have a part # for K & N filters