[E-Type] Early E-Type steering wheel rims

Hello folks. I see many of these earlier E-Type wheels when they
come to me for restoration. On occasion, I’m asked about the wood
that was used for the rims, and sometimes customers have concerns
about concours. In fact, and what finally inspired me to write
here, a customer contacted me today to ask for help with
authenticating a wheel that he has restored by me. I was able to
save the original rim, but he is having trouble at concours where
the judges don’t recognize the rim as original. From my experience
of restoring many of these wheels, I have documented differences in
the wood species and construction of the rims.

I would like to know if there is a central source/authority for
Jaguar concours where I can provide information to help with the
understanding of this small part of Jaguar history. Again, this
discussion applies only to the earliest E-Type wheels with Coventry
Timber Bending rims.–
Regards, Mike http://www.lempertwheels.com
Mount Pleasant, SC, United States
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Mike, Just to be clear, are the judges objecting to the metal (aluminum) wheel
frame, or the wood rim itself? I’m sure that you are aware that the early cars
used a different metal frame than the later cars.
Larry----- Original Message ----
From: woodrim woodrims@gmail.com
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Sent: Thu, April 5, 2012 9:24:11 AM
Subject: [E-Type] Early E-Type steering wheel rims

Hello folks. I see many of these earlier E-Type wheels when they
come to me for restoration. On occasion, I’m asked about the wood
that was used for the rims, and sometimes customers have concerns
about concours. In fact, and what finally inspired me to write
here, a customer contacted me today to ask for help with
authenticating a wheel that he has restored by me. I was able to
save the original rim, but he is having trouble at concours where
the judges don’t recognize the rim as original. From my experience
of restoring many of these wheels, I have documented differences in
the wood species and construction of the rims.

I would like to know if there is a central source/authority for
Jaguar concours where I can provide information to help with the
understanding of this small part of Jaguar history. Again, this
discussion applies only to the earliest E-Type wheels with Coventry
Timber Bending rims.


Regards, Mike http://www.lempertwheels.com
Mount Pleasant, SC, United States
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In reply to a message from Larry Kohler sent Thu 5 Apr 2012:

Sorry if I wasn’t clear. The objection of the judges is to the wood
rim, not the metal. And you are correct that the metal is also
different than the later wheels, but pretty much the same
throughout the early wheel production with wider internal metal
rim. I must admit that I pay much more attention to the wood as
that is my expertise. In the case of the recent customer
experience, it is because his rim was made from two different and
contrasting woods; beech and mahogany. Those early rims were made
in a few different ways, some all beech, some a mix as above, and
some all mahogany. This is what I’d like to document for better
concours understanding.–
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I see a couple problems here…
First, are you using the original style, poor quality, cheap varnish to replicate the original? Have you soaked it in moist air not saturated with acid rain of the twenty-first century? And, I suppose you cannot get the original unpolluted hardwood, which must also be saturated with forty years of hand sweat.
I thought not.
So, of course, the purist will scoff at your labors.
You are doing the best you can, so don’t let their criticism and anger get you down.
LLoyd (with a 40 year old, sweaty wheel)

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Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 9:24:11 AM
Subject: [E-Type] Early E-Type steering wheel rims

Hello folks. I see many of these earlier E-Type wheels when they
come to me for restoration. On occasion, I’m asked about the wood
that was used for the rims, …


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In reply to a message from woodrim sent Thu 5 Apr 2012:

Mike

The early wheels were made by the Coventry Timber Bending
Company and were constructed from eight 3mm beech veneers 5
1/2 feet long and 4 inches wide. These were bonded together
and cured by low frequency heating, then spliced into four
pieces, to make four wheels. Each wheel was then split again
and recessed to take the drilled aluminium spider, bonded
together again, then hand finished and polished on a lathe.
The colours vary because of the lamination process which
combined different shades of beech. Some of the wheels are
all blond, others have different shade’s - just production
variances I reckon. The CTB Co wheels were used on the first
2,000 or so cars, at least according to Dr Haddock although
some claim they were only used on the first 500.

The later wheels were made from Mahogany (it was cheaper
than beech) and the alloy rim was fully enclosed (again, it
was cheaper). You have to remember that Jaguar’s chief buyer
was Mr Arthur Whittaker who was personally tutored by Sir
William Lyons in the fine art of reducing costs. If Mr
Whittaker could save a penny anywhere on the car, he would!

Regards

David–
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In reply to a message from Heuer sent Thu 5 Apr 2012:

Thank you so much, soothsayer1, but you forgot global warming.
Please read my post again and you’ll see that I was not speaking of
replication, but restoration of original rims. Some people do have
the misfortune of needing such services. As for the rest of your
ramble, my I suggest looser underwear?

David: While I do appreciate your intent to help, I’ll suggest you
too read over my post again. I am not so much seeking information
as offering it. Much of what you said is very true about CTB, but
an equal amount is not accurate.

To all: I have come with the intention of trying to help the
Jaguar community understand a very small and obscure part of the
overall Jaguar experience. I am not at all interested in exchanges
with people who are all-knowing and rigid, closed minded, or just
generally strung too tight. I am doing this as a service to this
community and don’t have a lot of time to waste, so please tell me
if my contribution is not welcome and I’ll cease any attempt to
help. Sorry to be short tempered on this. I’m still hopeful the
majority of people here are open and friendly.

I should probably introduce myself more for those who do not know
of me and my work. For the last eight years I have specialized and
worked exclusively on classic era steering wheels. While much of
what I do is restoration, I do also replicate many popular and
certain less common wheels from the past. My customers have driven
my direction to understanding precise details of virtually every
steering wheel I’ve ever worked on. There are very few wheels that
I can’t speak on in details that include not only wood species and
shapes, but build techniques as well. As a maker of steering
wheels, I have developed a unique appreciation of how things would
have worked in the original shops, why things were done the way
they were, and why inaccuracies existed as well. My experience has
enabled me to see tings in a rim that others do not notice.

Now, I don’t think I’m saying anything that my customers wouldn’t
agree with, and I’m not here to prove myself, but as I said
earlier, to contribute to a better understanding where I have
acquired a unique knowledge.

I’m happy to tell this group what I know about the E-Type steering
wheels - or any other wheel - but my original question was to ask
if there is a central authority on concours where I can provide
this information.–
Regards, Mike http://www.lempertwheels.com
Mount Pleasant, SC, United States
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In reply to a message from woodrim sent Thu 5 Apr 2012:

Mike

You suggest you can offer information but have provided J-L
members with nothing new. If you have information of value
then put it on the table. As for further information on
concours entry there is plenty of information in the JCNA judging guide’s - a search will provide a link. I would
offer to help in that direction but given the tone of your
response to me and other’s I suggest you ‘‘loosen your
underwear’’ and do it yourself!

Regards

David–
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In reply to a message from Heuer sent Thu 5 Apr 2012:

I gotta admit - calling Mike Davids rather informative bit of
information about the construction of the wheels ‘‘rambling’’ to the
point of requiring looser underwear is one of the rudest things
I’ve ever seen on this forum.

As for the number of cars with the early wheel, my personal guess
is more like 6,000 - 7,000. My car has an early wheel, and may be
one of the last cars to have one (built in early September 62) -
going by photographs on xke data the early wheel is quite common
leading up to my car, but only one or two show up afterwards.–
'62 OTS
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In reply to a message from woodrim sent Thu 5 Apr 2012:

I am not at all interested in exchanges with people who are all-
knowing and rigid, closed minded, or just generally strung too
tight.

Wow. Pot and kettle?–
1968 E-type OTS since 1982, 1954 XK120SE OTS since 1991
Ontario, Canada
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In reply to a message from woodrim sent Thu 5 Apr 2012:

Hi Mike,
I would suggest that you contact Bob Stevenson. Bob wrote
(with help from others) the Series I E-type Judge Guide for
JCNA. I would think that he would be interested in any
information that would pertain to originality. For that
matter I would be interested too.

Cheers,
Bob–
Bob S. 64 FHC
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In reply to a message from woodrim sent Thu 5 Apr 2012:

Was this written on 1st April ? or do you need a radical lesson in
manners ?–
The original message included these comments:

Please read my post again and you’ll see that I was not speaking of
replication, but restoration of original rims. Some people do have
the misfortune of needing such services. As for the rest of your


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In reply to a message from woodrim sent Thu 5 Apr 2012:

Oh,and to add to my last post - if you are such an unimpeachable
authority on steering wheels, why does your website show ‘‘early E
type wheels’’ as having a solid wood periphery rather than one
which shows the thin strip of alloy at the periphery ?–
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In reply to a message from christopher storey sent Fri 6 Apr 2012:

That web site also has a picture of a Lempert restored early
Coventry Timber Bending Company wheel with a mahogany rim -
they were all beech as seen on the front of iconic E-Type
brochure. Hardly surprising the concours judge’s are concerned
and deduct points.–
The original message included these comments:

Oh,and to add to my last post - if you are such an unimpeachable
authority on steering wheels, why does your website show ‘‘early E
type wheels’’ as having a solid wood periphery rather than one
which shows the thin strip of alloy at the periphery ?


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In reply to a message from Heuer sent Fri 6 Apr 2012:

Have done so, David, thank you. I have sent email to a Mr. Bob
Stevenson offering him my information. I want to know of interest
before doing a lengthy write-up.

Please accept my apology, I realize you were trying to help. It is
not clear to me if the other email from soothsayer1 was sent tongue
in cheek or meant as less friendly.

When I do document my findings, I will share that with you here.
But for now, I’ll offer you some information to correct your
current understanding of the wheels/rims produced by CTB.

While 5.5 feet, or 66’’ is likely their starting length for lumber,
the strips would have been cut to various shorter lengths before
wrapping. It’s all about math. A 3mm width is approximately
correct. Coventry Timber Bending (CTB) was a well established and
experienced rim maker, and as such would not have mixed wood strips
from different boards. The color variations are for different
reasons. CTB history included rim building for D-Type, Austin-
Healey, and others prior to the E-Type assignment. They’re
preferred wood was beech. However, with the early E-Type rims they
also used mahogany; sometimes mahogany and beech in the same rim.
To appreciate this, you would have had to see the rims when they
were new - and understood wood well enough to recognize what you
were seeing. Over time, both woods became muddled in color and
somewhat blended together from the light exposure and discoloration
of the finish. This might make them appear as all the same wood
type, or in the case of multiple woods, just variations in the
lumber.

To address some other comments…
‘‘why does your website show ‘‘early E
type wheels’’ as having a solid wood periphery rather than one
which shows the thin strip of alloy at the periphery ?’’
Simply, my website does not show such a thing. One might think by
periphery that you were speaking about the outermost edge, but I’m
certain you mean the inner rim edge, yes? And if that is correct,
examples on my website are represented correctly.

‘‘That web site also has a picture of a Lempert restored early
Coventry Timber Bending Company wheel with a mahogany rim -
they were all beech as seen on the front of iconic E-Type
brochure’’
While the E-Type brochure did indeed display a beech rimmed wheel,
they were not always beech.

‘‘Hardly surprising the concours judge’s are concerned
and deduct points’’
Now you’ve got it, David. The very reason I have contacted this
group and then Mr. Stevenson. I have no interest other than helping
the judges understand something where they may have been deducting
points for something they should not. I’m offering this
information as a service to the community and as a courtesy to my
customers who may receive deductions unnecessarily. I understand
that not all people can be expert in all things. Wood can be very
difficult to identify at times and even a trained eye will have
difficulty when the wood is old and covered with a discolored
finish.–
Regards, Mike http://www.lempertwheels.com
Mount Pleasant, SC, United States
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In reply to a message from Heuer sent Thu 5 Apr 2012:

David: I left out the cost part of your story, so I’ll cover that
here. There are many stories of legendary cheapness associated with
the British car makers. I’m familiar with some about notorious
cheapskate Donald Healey. However, many of these stories get
embellished or distorted over time. The part about cost
consciousness is probably quite true, but I don’t think it is what
determined the type of wood used, at least not in the case of beech
vs. mahogany. While I do not know specific cost numbers at CTB, or
even the cost of timber at that time, I do have some related
information and can make some judgments using todays pricing and a
little logic.

First, as a matter of fact, during that same approximate time,
Peter Springall’s cost was .45p per rim for the beech wrappings
that he used for his Lotus wheels. His supplier was a different
company, Woodrims Limited of Slough, and I suspect a tad cheaper
than CTB. If I had to guess, I would estimate the raw wrappings to
have been priced at 55p per rim give or take. The beech used at the
time was European beech and it was common for steering wheel rims
throughout Europe because of its bending characteristics if not
also cost. Mahogany, as I’m sure we all know, comes from much more
distant places for that reason alone was likely to have cost more.
How much more would have depended on which species of mahogany,
which continent, type of cut, and quality rating. By then Cuban
mahogany would have been banned, so it was likely a South American
or African mahogany - I’d guess African from what I’ve seen,
although they can be difficult to distinguish when in the form of a
rim. Today, even here in the states, European beech is about a
third less costly than mahogany.–
The original message included these comments:

The later wheels were made from Mahogany (it was cheaper
than beech) and the alloy rim was fully enclosed (again, it
was cheaper). You have to remember that Jaguar’s chief buyer
was Mr Arthur Whittaker who was personally tutored by Sir
William Lyons in the fine art of reducing costs. If Mr
Whittaker could save a penny anywhere on the car, he would!


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In reply to a message from woodrim sent Fri 6 Apr 2012:

IF mahogony was used, the most likely reason would have probably
been because they had stuff left over from a mahogony specific
order. This was post WWII Britain we are talking about (in a city
that was burned to the ground by German bombing). Wasting stuff was
absolutely out of the question (I’m guessing you don’t want wood
sitting on a shelf for too long of a time, since if nothing else it
occupies space).–
'62 OTS
Concord, CA, United States
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In reply to a message from woodrim sent Fri 6 Apr 2012:

Mike

Following WWII Great Britain had a ban on imported goods,
including those from the USA unless certain pre-conditions
were met. For example Jukebox’s could only be imported as
kit’s of parts for assembly over here and could not include
any wood for the cabinets. So the mechanisms, amplifiers,
plastics and bright work came over and the cabinets were
built here from surplus wood stock. There was a surplus
because wood was used extensively in the construction of
aircraft - the Mosquito and Hurricane being the most famous
examples. All our war requirement wood supplies came from
the USA under the Lease/Lend programme so your endemic
species were first choice - spruce and beech. Mahogany is a
tropical wood sourced from South America or Africa so was in
very limited supply because of the transport problems (U-
Boat’s usually). Whilst mahogany became available after the
war the population was fed up with austerity and the ‘dark
years’ and wanted a bright new future. This represented
itself in the music and fashion of the times reaching a peak
with the swinging '60’s. Out went the dark oak and stained
pine furniture of our parents and in came light oak and
stripped pine - everything brighter, lighter and clean. As a
schoolboy at the time I well remember our woodwork classes
where mahogany was not the wood of choice for any of us
making furniture to take home to our parents. In fact we had
stuff called Conti-board - chip board veneered with oak on
one side and mahogany on the other - and the oak side was
always the one chosen for the face.

With little demand for mahogany it became a ‘cheap’ wood
that no one wanted but there was always someone with an eye
to a bargain, eh Mr Arthur Whitaker, Jaguar chief buyer?
Actually by the end of the decade mahogany came back in
fashion, driven by its then low cost, obviously. In the 70’s
with the proliferation of ‘hi-fi’ your speakers and
amplifier cabinets HAD to be made of mahogany otherwise you
would not be taken seriously. Oddly prices climbed!

So Jaguar must have liked the beautiful beech covered
steering wheel that heralded the E-Type and became so
iconic. After three years production they became fixated
with driving down costs so compromises were made.

Regards

David–
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David: I left out the cost part of your story, so I’ll cover that
here. There are many stories of legendary cheapness associated with


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Hello all. I just today received another early E-Type wheel for restoration and it reminded me of this earlier attempt to provide the E folks with information.

David: Thanks for your message. I didn’t see it before now - maybe I don’t have notification turned on. In any case, thanks for that historical information.

Beech was a widely used wood for rims in England. The beech that was used was European beech which is slightly different from the beech here in the states. I figured it was chosen for its excellent bending characteristics. During the early '50s Coventry Timber Bending (CTB) used beech for their D-Type rims and for the rims they made for the Austin-Healey 100S cars. Additionally, they made beech rims in the early '60s for some special MGA wheels. There was at least one other company, Woodrims Limited (of Slough), who made beech rings for Peter Springall to use for his rims - mostly Lotus, but some aftermarket too.

When the early S1 E-Type wheels were made by CTB, they chose to use beech, but not exclusively as many of you believe. I am aware “it was written” in a book and many consider that the definitive word, but I am also aware of many other examples of incorrect or incomplete entries in books about various car marques. I’ll comment further, but first a few more words about the use of mahogany.

Victor Derrington used mahogany for his steering wheel rims starting in or around 1954, the date of his initial patent filing. His rims were made of (sapele) mahogany and obeechi (obeeche,obeche). He also advertised using white sycamore (really a maple) in place of the obeechi. Most, if not all I have seen have been mahogany and obeechi. Obeechi must have been a very cheap alternative to something better, like beech or maple. While I’m not aware of the years Walsall Wheels operated, they used mahogany exclusively from what I have seen. Walsall was the maker of the Les Leston line of steering wheels and they also made wheels to sell as just Walsall.

Now back to CTB and the jaguar E-Type wheels. While CTB did use beech for the early E-Type rims, most of what I have seen here from wheels sent to me for restoration have been mahogany. I have no idea how many of each of the two woods were made, only what I have personally seen. I have had at least a dozen, probably more, here over the past 15 years that I have been doing this work. Rest assured I do know woods and I do know how to distinguish the differences. Beech and mahogany are quite different from each other. It is not only the color, but the character of the grain, and in particular, the ray flake on the quartersawn angle is distinctive.

I have further information based on several mahogany rims. While some were simple mahogany wrappings (process for creating rings), others were more fancy. I speculate that the people (or person) making the rings at CTB had creative moments. Some of these mahogany rims featured different color mahogany, resulting in attractive patterns. This technique was not exclusive to CTB - it was also done by Walsall and it is a defining characteristic to Carlotti rims (although the Carlotti most often used a combination of mahogany and beech to create the patterns).

I think it is not likely that the rim makers were instructed to do this since the rims weren’t all precisely the same. Some used double dark strips and some just single strip dark. The first time I saw it I thought it an anomaly, but now realize it was done quite frequently. The wheel I received today is an example of the mahogany rim with two dark wood strips used to create the stripes.

I presume most of you know the basic differences between the early CTB wheels and the common ones that followed. For those that don’t, and aside from wood species, the CTB rims were shaped in rounded style rather than the thumb groove on the common wheels. CTB rims were 3/4 wraps, meaning the inside metal rim was exposed. The common wheels had full wraps where wood covered all sides of the internal metal rim. The finger grips were also different with the CTB using a four repeat pattern.

Now if I can figure out how to post some pictures, I will show you this latest wheel to arrive and an area of it where I have cleaned the patina to expose the wood pattern. This rim is missing the outermost stip of wood. In one picture I have wetted it to enhance the color differences. I have written this message and taken the pictures as a service to this community. My intent is only to provide you with accurate information on a subject not well understood. I hope this is of some value.

Gallery here - pictures will be added when restoration complete: http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/s1jag2

Another example from some years ago: http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/s1jag

Here a simple mahogany version: http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/invent3b

Regards,
Mike Lempert
http://www.lempertwheels.com

This has been an interesting read and thanks to all who have added to the discussion. Mike, one of the best features of this (new) forum is the ease of adding photos. Just go to the tool bar at the top of the Reply window and you’ll see a rectangular bar with an up arrow. Click on that and you’ll see a popup window, Add an Image with options of from your device or from the web. Click on From your Device, click browse and you’ll access the files on your device. Then just copy and paste or drag and drop and your photos will be added to your posting.

Hello and welcome again Mike.

Your info is interesting to all (I guess) but has specific added value to concours/originality people. The pre-eminent body for those issues is JCNA, who sanction the serious concours events in North America and whose rules and originality guides form the basis for many concours outside North America. Consequently I think the suggestion from four years ago still stands:- Bob Stevenson (and Dick Cavicke) would be the key people to receive your info.

David Jones has done a good job with the UK E-Type forum but Jag-Lovers isn’t the same sort of body as JCNA. I’m sure people would be happy to read the info but I wouldn’t use J-L as my reference if I ever prepared a car for concours, I’d use the JCNA data.

As it happens I’ll be ding a feature on XK steering wheels in a future issue of Jaguar Journal. If you wanted to publish more widely than concours authorities, I’d be happy to follow the XK story with one from you on E-Types?

Pete Crespin

Contact me on pcrespin ‘at’ jcna.com