[E-Type] Engine Breather

Garth_Nicholson · November 23, 2003, 11:17pm

Hello all.

So this crankcase breather/emission thing stuck on the front of the
cylinder head…how does it work? what’s inside it? what’s it
supposed to do?

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vrooomie · November 23, 2003, 11:37pm

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Nothing at all is inside it. It’s just a collection point for
crankcase fumes to be sucked into the air cleaner plenum. Just make
sure it’s clean and has good hoses on it.–
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So this crankcase breather/emission thing stuck on the front of the
cylinder head…how does it work? what’s inside it? what’s it
supposed to do?

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tr_jag · November 23, 2003, 11:45pm

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There is a screen between the housing and head.
Bob–
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rcliggitt · November 24, 2003, 12:23am

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What’s that screen for anyhow? Keep out flys?–
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There is a screen between the housing and head.
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rwelsh · November 24, 2003, 1:51am

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Does anyone have suggestions for excluding exhaust fumes from the
cabin?–
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Glenn · November 24, 2003, 2:19am

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Is it safe to plumb the breather to the carb air inputs??..on the
V12 ZS they are plumbed into the carb body…is this the same as
plumbing into the air inlets for the carb??–
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tr_jag · November 24, 2003, 3:26am

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The screen doesn’t keep flies out, it keeps engine parts in
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rcliggitt · November 24, 2003, 4:33am

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This is an interesting question. When the SII car matured to
strombergs and the small aircleaner, Jag no longer plumbed the
breather to the air cleaner. Instead the plumbed it directly into
the carbs (like on the S3). The thing that intrigues me is that the
difference in the size of the plumbing. When it went into the
aircleaner the pipes were about 7/8’‘D but the carb connectors are
only about 1/4’'D.

My guess is that the carbs take-offs provide a much higher PSI
suction and thus a larger pipe is not necessary. But just a guess.

The answer to your question is yes you can plumb the breather to
the air cleaners. The thing to make note of is if the plumbing is
large enough in diameter to provide a reasonable vacuum at the
breather.

There is a phenomenon that occurs on this directly-to-carb plumbing
system and thats that it is prone to leaking. They didn’t apply
clamps to the rubber tubing interconnects and a small leak in this
system will cause one or more of the carbs to lean out. It’ll drive
you nuts trying to adjust your carbs.

Richard Liggitt–
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Is it safe to plumb the breather to the carb air inputs??..on the
V12 ZS they are plumbed into the carb body…is this the same as
plumbing into the air inlets for the carb??

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Garth_Nicholson · November 24, 2003, 1:12pm

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Thanks everyone.

It’s just that it’s got the word ‘’…device…’’ on the top of it,
and that implies more than just a hollow tube to me.

Why have the vertical section of the ‘‘device’’ at all if its empty?
Why not just run the breather tube straight into the dome?

Are you sure there aren’t some baffles inside, that oil could
condense on and run back into the engine or something like that?

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vrooomie · November 24, 2003, 1:47pm

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First off, G, what’s the series Jag we’re talking about? If it’s
the vertical style as on an SI/S1.5, that is precisely its
function…to act as an oil trap for the oil in the fumes…then out
the top and over to the breather.–
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It’s just that it’s got the word ‘’…device…‘’ on the top of it,
and that implies more than just a hollow tube to me.
Why have the vertical section of the ‘‘device’’ at all if its empty?
Why not just run the breather tube straight into the dome?
Are you sure there aren’t some baffles inside, that oil could
condense on and run back into the engine or something like that?

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Brighton, CO, United States
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paul_spurlock · November 24, 2003, 2:36pm

Nothing in there Just a screen, relatively coarse one at that. All it does is vent crankcase pressure to be fed into the carbs as opposed to out into the atmosphere.
pauls 67ots

Hello all.

So this crankcase breather/emission thing stuck on the front of the
cylinder head…how does it work? what’s inside it? what’s it
supposed to do?

Regards,

Dr.G
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Subject: [E-Type] Engine Breather

paul_spurlock · November 24, 2003, 2:47pm

Ron,
Make sure your tranny shifter boot is intact. Make sure any holes in the firewall are sealed up. Make sure the tranny cover is tight against the firewall.
pauls 67ots

In reply to a message from Richard Liggitt sent Mon 24 Nov 2003:

Does anyone have suggestions for excluding exhaust fumes from the
cabin?

ron welsh
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Garth_Nicholson · November 24, 2003, 2:43pm

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wigster, its an s1 4.2 1964.–
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First off, G, what’s the series Jag we’re talking about? If it’s

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mouton · November 24, 2003, 2:54pm

Dr. G,

In the parts book, it’s just “Front Cover and Breather Housing”.
Where’s “device” come from?

Jerry

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April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004----- Original Message -----
From: “Dr.G” dr_nicholson@yahoo.com

It’s just that it’s got the word ‘’…device…‘’ on the top of it,
and that implies more than just a hollow tube to me.

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mouton · November 24, 2003, 3:00pm

Ron,

Don’t forget what duct tape was invented for! It works fine
for sealing up verarious cracks and holes.

What year and model E Type are you working on?

Jerry

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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:47 AM
Subject: [E-Type] Engine Breather

Ron,
Make sure your tranny shifter boot is intact. Make sure any holes in the
firewall are sealed up. Make sure the tranny cover is tight against the
firewall.
pauls 67ots

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In reply to a message from Richard Liggitt sent Mon 24 Nov 2003:

Does anyone have suggestions for excluding exhaust fumes from the
cabin?

ron welsh
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paul_spurlock · November 24, 2003, 3:09pm

Dr. G,
Nope nada, no baffles, no nothing. I’m speculating the reason for the height is so that gravity will prevent engine oil flying around from the timing chains from getting out, only gasses. As far as the rest of the design I also speculate that is simply a convenience in plubming so that the connector hoses don’t require being bent. I have one in the garage if you want to see a pic.
pauls 67ots

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Thanks everyone.

It’s just that it’s got the word ‘’…device…‘’ on the top of it,
and that implies more than just a hollow tube to me.

Why have the vertical section of the ‘‘device’’ at all if its empty?
Why not just run the breather tube straight into the dome?

Are you sure there aren’t some baffles inside, that oil could
condense on and run back into the engine or something like that?

Regards,

Dr.G
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Garth_Nicholson · November 24, 2003, 3:20pm

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Jerry,

‘‘device’’ is embossed on the top of it with a load of other stuff.

Anyway, if it says ‘‘housing’’ in the book, what is it supposed to
house?

Dr.G–
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Where’s ‘‘device’’ come from?

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mouton · November 24, 2003, 3:51pm

Hmmm – there is nothing embossed on mine – or on
any other one I have seen. Mine is highly polished all
over. Got any photos? See mine at

Does yours look the same? What year is it, anyhow?

Note how a too-big belt looks on the pulleys ; -) proper size is nearly
straight up and down at the tensioner.

Oh, it houses the tiny family responsible for breathing the oil ; -).

Jerry

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‘‘device’’ is embossed on the top of it with a load of other stuff.

Anyway, if it says ‘‘housing’’ in the book, what is it supposed to
house?

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JOHNATHAN_SPAAR · November 24, 2003, 11:53pm

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All I can say is remove carpet and check for a crack or hole in the
firewall. Also, notice if it’s worse when the fan or heat is on,
otherwise no-big-deal.–
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Does anyone have suggestions for excluding exhaust fumes from the
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paul_spurlock · November 25, 2003, 12:20am

I was thinking the smoke… other than the lucas smoke
pauls 67ots

…Oh, it houses the tiny family responsible for breathing the oil ; -).

Jerry
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