[E-Type] Heritage Certificate

Works for me–would be nice if those records ‘‘walked’’ back to the
JHT. Wonder why Jaguar keeps all copies of those micro film under
lock and key even today?

Well, seeing as the swords have been drawn…care to share with
those of us that have no idea what y’all are going on about what the
cafuffle is all about??On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 5:46 PM, George Camp scjag@juno.com wrote:


Les…'68 S1.5 2+2


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In reply to a message from Les Halls sent Wed 6 Jun 2012:

Les it has been hashed before. Simply put there are two places to
get a certificate–those are carefully garded and protected
records. There is a set that ‘‘walked’’ and there was even a legal
battle–it is all real grease ball stuff but just because a legal
action goes one way that does not mean the action was right. Write
me off list or call.–
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Well, seeing as the swords have been drawn…care to share with
those of us that have no idea what y’all are going on about what the
cafuffle is all about??


JCRC SE member JCNA Regional Director SE JCNA Auth. Desk
Columbia SC, United States
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Glad you mentioned all 3 of us and brought no idea or event to the
fore. Sam Clemens may be right.
pauls 67ots

George, Paul and Robert, whatever you do, don’t let the
truth get in the way of a good rumour, you really don’t have
a clue.

''He gossips habitually; he lacks the common wisdom to keep
still that deadly enemy of man, his own tongue” Mark Twain

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events;
small minds discuss people.

Would it help you guys if I just went away?

Sincere and kind regards to all genuine enthusiasts, Tom.
<<<<<<<<<<From: “carisma2” omnipeta@virginmedia.com
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Heritage Certificate


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Would a copy of a message from the JDHC archivist concerning the
missing records mean anything to you? Probably not as this gets hashed
out here every couple of years and the message from the archivist
concerning a copy of the records that mysteriously left the JDHC
Archives has been posted here before.
Bob
889076
Plymouth, Mi.On Jun 6, 2012, at 2:26 PM, carisma2 wrote:

In reply to a message from George Camp sent Tue 5 Jun 2012:

George, Paul and Robert, whatever you do, don’t let the
truth get in the way of a good rumour, you really don’t have
a clue.

''He gossips habitually; he lacks the common wisdom to keep
still that deadly enemy of man, his own tongue” Mark Twain

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events;
small minds discuss people.

Would it help you guys if I just went away?

Sincere and kind regards to all genuine enthusiasts, Tom.


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anything from that source is tainted!


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In reply to a message from Johno sent Sun 3 Jun 2012:

The plot thickens or thins depending on your point of view.
I contacted the DVLA who stated that the vehicle was first
registered on 1st August 1967 as APT 379F and have never
issued Reg No Jag 21E.

I emailed Jaguar Heritage:

Hi
I have recently received a Heritage Certificate for my E
Type Jaguar (Cert No 36017) on it states that the
Registration mark was Originally: JAG 21E (it is now APT 379F).
I would like to reunite the old Rag No with the car,
unfortunately the DVLA have no record of ever issuing this
number to any vehicle and state that it was first registered
on 1st August 1967 as APT 379F.
Can you throw any further light on this matter?
Regards
John Bennett Hayling Island UK

and received the following reply:

Dear Mr Bennett

Thank you for your e-mail. I presume that you have applied
to have JAG 21 E re-issued to the car, and that you provided
a copy of our certificate in support of the application. If
the DVLA has turned you down on this basis, I do not think
that you can do anything more. Presumably you do not have
the original log book. Did you ask the DVLA whether they
have this on microfilm. I do not know whether there is a
local archive or records office in Ayrshire (where JAG 21 E
was issued) but you might look into this. On checking, I
discover that the reference books show that the JAG … E
series was not issued, whereas the JAG … F series was.

If the registration on your car had been JAG 21 F that would
tie in with a registration date of 1 August 1967, although
this seems rather late for your car which was dispatched
much earlier. However, I accept that our records may be at
fault, that the JAG 21 E entry may be an error, and your car
may have been JAG 21 F. According to reference books, a
registration mark in the APT … F series was issued in Co
Durham in March 1968 so your car must have been
re-registered early in life. I should also point out to you
that the most logical reason for your car having been
re-registered, was that the original registration was
transferred to another car, and may indeed still be ‘‘live’’.

Kind regards,

Anders Ditlev Clausager
JAGUAR HERITAGE ARCHIVE
Browns Lane

think I am chasing my tail here and will leave it for
another day.

John–
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Finally got round to applying for a certificate and received
it a few days ago. Original colour was cream with black
interior, it is now Carmen Red with the same colour interior.
The original number plate was JAG 21E it is now APT 579F.


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…However, I accept that our records may be at
fault, that the JAG 21 E entry may be an error, and your car
may have been JAG 21 F. According to reference books, a
registration mark in the APT … F series was issued in Co
Durham in March 1968 so your car must have been
re-registered early in life. I should also point out to you
that the most logical reason for your car having been
re-registered, was that the original registration was
transferred to another car, and may indeed still be ‘‘live’’.

Well, with JHT providing acknowledgement that their records might be
in error (the “E” was probably always an “F”) it at least gives you
some kind of peace knowing that even if the car was re-registered, at
least the new registration was for the same/correct period of
manufacture as the original registration, and not due to some kind of
catastrophic or underhanded occurrence with the car.On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Johno johnben@ntlworld.com wrote:


Les…'68 S1.5 2+2


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Hi Guys!

Does anyone know how I can obtain a Heritage Certificate? I
want to ensure that I am getting from the correct source.

Thanks,
Bob–
'70 E S2 OTS
Memphis, TN, United States
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Bob, contact Michael Cook at jaguar Trust ( mcook69@jaguarlandrover.com).

Dick Russ
70 OTS--------------------------------------------------
From: “bobsxke” bobsbj8@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 5:14 PM
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [E-Type] Heritage Certificate

Hi Guys!

Does anyone know how I can obtain a Heritage Certificate? I
want to ensure that I am getting from the correct source.

Thanks,
Bob


'70 E S2 OTS
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In reply to a message from Dick Russ sent Thu 6 Mar 2014:

Hi Dick,

Wow, thanks that was quick!
Regards,
Bob–
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In reply to a message from bobsxke sent Thu 6 Mar 2014:

For anybody else interested, there is a button at the bottom of
this very page marked JDHT Certificates; it gives complete
instructions for getting your certificate either from the UK or the
US.

Jerry–
Jerry Mouton '64 FHC 889791 ‘MIK Jaguar’
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In reply to a message from bobsxke sent Thu 6 Mar 2014:

Some more detail info from JCNA.

http://tinyurl.com/n2c7s5f--
Ralph, 1970 FHC, 1R27295
Coastal NJ, United States
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In reply to a message from RGK sent Thu 6 Mar 2014:

The link and text for certificates direct from the UK are
terribly out-of-date on Jag-Lovers!

Current website details here:

http://tinyurl.com/cyusa22

I’ll be making a completely new and revamped Jaguar Heritage
website live very soon with a more streamlined ordering
process. Expected launch at the end of this month.–
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Your website updated in 2008 indicates that the Heritage
Certificate at a cost of thirty pounds. Is this still the
cost today?–
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In reply to a message from secondtime sent Tue 11 Nov 2014:

The Jaguar Heritage site says �45.00:

http://www.jaguarheritage.com/heritage-certificate--
Geo Hahn 1969 OTS 4.2
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In reply to a message from Geo H sent Wed 12 Nov 2014:

Or if you are a JCNA member they are $35. A bit less!–
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In reply to a message from secondtime sent Tue 11 Nov 2014:
The Jaguar Heritage site says �45.00:


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In reply to a message from George Camp sent Sat 15 Nov 2014:

I tried to find the Heritage Certificate order form on the
JCNA website, George, but I couldn’t. Where is it located?–
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Or if you are a JCNA member they are $35. A bit less!


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In reply to a message from mgordon sent Sun 16 Nov 2014:

In the library in the middle col. toward the bottom I
think. I know the web site is clunky and over full but it
dates to 1992. JCNA has a new web site about ready for BETA
testing that was approved in March. Taking a bit longer
than the 4 months the co first thought but not much longer.–
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In reply to a message from George Camp sent Sat 15 Nov 2014:
I tried to find the Heritage Certificate order form on the
JCNA website, George, but I couldn’t. Where is it located?


George Camp
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In reply to a message from George Camp sent Sun 16 Nov 2014:

I found it, George. Thanks!–
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