[E-Type] It's my brakes again

Enlisting the lister help

When I adopted my S2 back in June this year, the brakes would not
immediately release after application. After a few minutes, they did
release and all was well until the next application. This all occurred
after the car warmed up. The listers good advice was to replace the hose,
which I did-all three. Life was good.
Now a few weeks later, after a nice 20 miles drive today I had need to
apply the brakes and they froze-period. Stopped very well but did not
release as before. I exited the car and under the bonnet I relieved
pressure on the left front disc by openng the bleed screw. This provided
full release of the brakes. I did this again as required each stop until
arriving home. At home, After the car cooled considerably, the brakes
released from the last application.
Please give me your help again .

Ken
71OTS, S2

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Fred,
Thanks for the tip. A good example of the value of this site. Just getting
started in this E society, I appreciate being able to query the group and
get real world hands on recommendations. Here I go to implement your
suggestion!!!
Ken
71OTS, S2----------

From: FRED SHOOK fshook@cybertrails.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:31 PM

I followed the advice of Mike Clarke and I think you should also. Your
symptoms
are identical to mine and I resolved them by freeing up the stuck
actuator
piston located on the front end of the Master Cylinder. It required
disassembly
of the master cylinder and pushing the piston from it’s bore , A light
honing of
this bore was necessary. The brake problem is solved!

ken thompson wrote:

Enlisting the lister help

When I adopted my S2 back in June this year, the brakes would not
immediately release after application. After a few minutes, they did
release and all was well until the next application. This all occurred
after the car warmed up. The listers good advice was to replace the
hose,

which I did-all three. Life was good.
Now a few weeks later, after a nice 20 miles drive today I had need to
apply the brakes and they froze-period. Stopped very well but did not
release as before. I exited the car and under the bonnet I relieved
pressure on the left front disc by openng the bleed screw. This
provided

full release of the brakes. I did this again as required each stop
until

arriving home. At home, After the car cooled considerably, the brakes
released from the last application.
Please give me your help again .

Ken
71OTS, S2

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Fred,

Following your advice, I have removed the forward piston from the master
cyl and here is my finding: The bore and piston are clean. The piston is
being restrained in the bore with a good amount of resistance caused by the
seals [2] on the piston. They bind in the bore as though they are slightly
oversize!! I will order a kit and replace them, but I now wonder how it is
that the seals appear to not fit properly?
Any thoughts, anybody?

Ken
71OTS, S2----------

From: ken thompson <@ken_thompson>
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Monday, August 14, 2000 4:31 AM

Fred,
Thanks for the tip. A good example of the value of this site. Just
getting
started in this E society, I appreciate being able to query the group and
get real world hands on recommendations. Here I go to implement your
suggestion!!!
Ken
71OTS, S2


From: FRED SHOOK fshook@cybertrails.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:31 PM

I followed the advice of Mike Clarke and I think you should also. Your
symptoms
are identical to mine and I resolved them by freeing up the stuck
actuator
piston located on the front end of the Master Cylinder. It required
disassembly
of the master cylinder and pushing the piston from it’s bore , A light
honing of
this bore was necessary. The brake problem is solved!

ken thompson wrote:

Enlisting the lister help

When I adopted my S2 back in June this year, the brakes would not
immediately release after application. After a few minutes, they did
release and all was well until the next application. This all
occurred

after the car warmed up. The listers good advice was to replace the
hose,

which I did-all three. Life was good.
Now a few weeks later, after a nice 20 miles drive today I had need
to

apply the brakes and they froze-period. Stopped very well but did not
release as before. I exited the car and under the bonnet I relieved
pressure on the left front disc by openng the bleed screw. This
provided

full release of the brakes. I did this again as required each stop
until

arriving home. At home, After the car cooled considerably, the brakes
released from the last application.
Please give me your help again .

Ken
71OTS, S2

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I don’t know what was in it when purchased June this year, but i added
quite a bit of NAPA DOT 4. Was that a no-no?

Ken
71OTS, S2----------

From: Alistair Bell BadAl@veriomail.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Sunday, September 17, 2000 8:44 AM

What brake fluid are you using?
Al

ken thompson wrote:

Fred,

Following your advice, I have removed the forward piston from the
master

cyl and here is my finding: The bore and piston are clean. The piston
is

being restrained in the bore with a good amount of resistance caused by
the

seals [2] on the piston. They bind in the bore as though they are
slightly

oversize!! I will order a kit and replace them, but I now wonder how it
is

that the seals appear to not fit properly?
Any thoughts, anybody?

Ken
71OTS, S2


From: ken thompson <@ken_thompson>
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Monday, August 14, 2000 4:31 AM

Fred,
Thanks for the tip. A good example of the value of this site. Just
getting
started in this E society, I appreciate being able to query the group
and

get real world hands on recommendations. Here I go to implement your
suggestion!!!
Ken
71OTS, S2


From: FRED SHOOK fshook@cybertrails.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:31 PM

I followed the advice of Mike Clarke and I think you should also.
Your

symptoms

are identical to mine and I resolved them by freeing up the stuck
actuator
piston located on the front end of the Master Cylinder. It required
disassembly
of the master cylinder and pushing the piston from it’s bore , A
light

honing of

this bore was necessary. The brake problem is solved!

ken thompson wrote:

Enlisting the lister help

When I adopted my S2 back in June this year, the brakes would not
immediately release after application. After a few minutes, they
did

release and all was well until the next application. This all
occurred

after the car warmed up. The listers good advice was to replace
the

hose,

which I did-all three. Life was good.
Now a few weeks later, after a nice 20 miles drive today I had
need

to

apply the brakes and they froze-period. Stopped very well but did
not

release as before. I exited the car and under the bonnet I
relieved

pressure on the left front disc by openng the bleed screw. This
provided

full release of the brakes. I did this again as required each
stop

until

arriving home. At home, After the car cooled considerably, the
brakes

released from the last application.
Please give me your help again .

Ken
71OTS, S2

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Whatever was in the car when I purchased it last June plus NAPA DOT 4 that
I have added.

Ken----------

From: Alistair Bell BadAl@veriomail.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Sunday, September 17, 2000 8:44 AM

What brake fluid are you using?
Al

ken thompson wrote:

Fred,

Following your advice, I have removed the forward piston from the
master

cyl and here is my finding: The bore and piston are clean. The piston
is

being restrained in the bore with a good amount of resistance caused by
the

seals [2] on the piston. They bind in the bore as though they are
slightly

oversize!! I will order a kit and replace them, but I now wonder how it
is

that the seals appear to not fit properly?
Any thoughts, anybody?

Ken
71OTS, S2


From: ken thompson <@ken_thompson>
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Monday, August 14, 2000 4:31 AM

Fred,
Thanks for the tip. A good example of the value of this site. Just
getting
started in this E society, I appreciate being able to query the group
and

get real world hands on recommendations. Here I go to implement your
suggestion!!!
Ken
71OTS, S2


From: FRED SHOOK fshook@cybertrails.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:31 PM

I followed the advice of Mike Clarke and I think you should also.
Your

symptoms

are identical to mine and I resolved them by freeing up the stuck
actuator
piston located on the front end of the Master Cylinder. It required
disassembly
of the master cylinder and pushing the piston from it’s bore , A
light

honing of

this bore was necessary. The brake problem is solved!

ken thompson wrote:

Enlisting the lister help

When I adopted my S2 back in June this year, the brakes would not
immediately release after application. After a few minutes, they
did

release and all was well until the next application. This all
occurred

after the car warmed up. The listers good advice was to replace
the

hose,

which I did-all three. Life was good.
Now a few weeks later, after a nice 20 miles drive today I had
need

to

apply the brakes and they froze-period. Stopped very well but did
not

release as before. I exited the car and under the bonnet I
relieved

pressure on the left front disc by openng the bleed screw. This
provided

full release of the brakes. I did this again as required each
stop

until

arriving home. At home, After the car cooled considerably, the
brakes

released from the last application.
Please give me your help again .

Ken
71OTS, S2

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I followed the advice of Mike Clarke and I think you should also. Your symptoms
are identical to mine and I resolved them by freeing up the stuck actuator
piston located on the front end of the Master Cylinder. It required disassembly
of the master cylinder and pushing the piston from it’s bore , A light honing of
this bore was necessary. The brake problem is solved!

ken thompson wrote:

Enlisting the lister help

When I adopted my S2 back in June this year, the brakes would not
immediately release after application. After a few minutes, they did
release and all was well until the next application. This all occurred
after the car warmed up. The listers good advice was to replace the hose,
which I did-all three. Life was good.
Now a few weeks later, after a nice 20 miles drive today I had need to
apply the brakes and they froze-period. Stopped very well but did not
release as before. I exited the car and under the bonnet I relieved
pressure on the left front disc by openng the bleed screw. This provided
full release of the brakes. I did this again as required each stop until
arriving home. At home, After the car cooled considerably, the brakes
released from the last application.
Please give me your help again .

Ken
71OTS, S2

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What brake fluid are you using?
Al

ken thompson wrote:

Fred,

Following your advice, I have removed the forward piston from the master
cyl and here is my finding: The bore and piston are clean. The piston is
being restrained in the bore with a good amount of resistance caused by the
seals [2] on the piston. They bind in the bore as though they are slightly
oversize!! I will order a kit and replace them, but I now wonder how it is
that the seals appear to not fit properly?
Any thoughts, anybody?

Ken
71OTS, S2


From: ken thompson kthompson@totalaccess.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Monday, August 14, 2000 4:31 AM

Fred,
Thanks for the tip. A good example of the value of this site. Just
getting
started in this E society, I appreciate being able to query the group and
get real world hands on recommendations. Here I go to implement your
suggestion!!!
Ken
71OTS, S2


From: FRED SHOOK fshook@cybertrails.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:31 PM

I followed the advice of Mike Clarke and I think you should also. Your
symptoms
are identical to mine and I resolved them by freeing up the stuck
actuator
piston located on the front end of the Master Cylinder. It required
disassembly
of the master cylinder and pushing the piston from it’s bore , A light
honing of
this bore was necessary. The brake problem is solved!

ken thompson wrote:

Enlisting the lister help

When I adopted my S2 back in June this year, the brakes would not
immediately release after application. After a few minutes, they did
release and all was well until the next application. This all
occurred

after the car warmed up. The listers good advice was to replace the
hose,

which I did-all three. Life was good.
Now a few weeks later, after a nice 20 miles drive today I had need
to

apply the brakes and they froze-period. Stopped very well but did not
release as before. I exited the car and under the bonnet I relieved
pressure on the left front disc by openng the bleed screw. This
provided

full release of the brakes. I did this again as required each stop
until

arriving home. At home, After the car cooled considerably, the brakes
released from the last application.
Please give me your help again .

Ken
71OTS, S2

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What type of break fluid and how often have you changed what you are using?
Mike / KoolKat

ken thompson wrote:

Fred,

Following your advice, I have removed the forward piston from the master
cyl and here is my finding: The bore and piston are clean. The piston is
being restrained in the bore with a good amount of resistance caused by the
seals [2] on the piston. They bind in the bore as though they are slightly
oversize!! I will order a kit and replace them, but I now wonder how it is
that the seals appear to not fit properly?
Any thoughts, anybody?

Ken
71OTS, S2


From: ken thompson kthompson@totalaccess.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Monday, August 14, 2000 4:31 AM

Fred,
Thanks for the tip. A good example of the value of this site. Just
getting
started in this E society, I appreciate being able to query the group and
get real world hands on recommendations. Here I go to implement your
suggestion!!!
Ken
71OTS, S2


From: FRED SHOOK fshook@cybertrails.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:31 PM

I followed the advice of Mike Clarke and I think you should also. Your
symptoms
are identical to mine and I resolved them by freeing up the stuck
actuator
piston located on the front end of the Master Cylinder. It required
disassembly
of the master cylinder and pushing the piston from it’s bore , A light
honing of
this bore was necessary. The brake problem is solved!

ken thompson wrote:

Enlisting the lister help

When I adopted my S2 back in June this year, the brakes would not
immediately release after application. After a few minutes, they did
release and all was well until the next application. This all
occurred

after the car warmed up. The listers good advice was to replace the
hose,

which I did-all three. Life was good.
Now a few weeks later, after a nice 20 miles drive today I had need
to

apply the brakes and they froze-period. Stopped very well but did not
release as before. I exited the car and under the bonnet I relieved
pressure on the left front disc by openng the bleed screw. This
provided

full release of the brakes. I did this again as required each stop
until

arriving home. At home, After the car cooled considerably, the brakes
released from the last application.
Please give me your help again .

Ken
71OTS, S2

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Yes-yes, it was a no-no. Use Castrol to avoid swelling the seals. If you had to
add a lot, you probably had a leak anyhow.
Silicone is OK as well, but not without drawbacks.

Regular changes will remove water absorbed into the system. Annual changes are
probably sufficient, and perhaps excessive, but the fluid will cost about $5, and
any other brake parts are much more.

Al

ken thompson wrote:

I don’t know what was in it when purchased June this year, but i added
quite a bit of NAPA DOT 4. Was that a no-no?

Ken
71OTS, S2


From: Alistair Bell <@Alistair_Bell>
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Sunday, September 17, 2000 8:44 AM

What brake fluid are you using?
Al

ken thompson wrote:

Fred,

Following your advice, I have removed the forward piston from the
master

cyl and here is my finding: The bore and piston are clean. The piston
is

being restrained in the bore with a good amount of resistance caused by
the

seals [2] on the piston. They bind in the bore as though they are
slightly

oversize!! I will order a kit and replace them, but I now wonder how it
is

that the seals appear to not fit properly?
Any thoughts, anybody?

Ken
71OTS, S2


From: ken thompson kthompson@totalaccess.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Monday, August 14, 2000 4:31 AM

Fred,
Thanks for the tip. A good example of the value of this site. Just
getting
started in this E society, I appreciate being able to query the group
and

get real world hands on recommendations. Here I go to implement your
suggestion!!!
Ken
71OTS, S2


From: FRED SHOOK fshook@cybertrails.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] It’s my brakes again
Date: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:31 PM

I followed the advice of Mike Clarke and I think you should also.
Your

symptoms

are identical to mine and I resolved them by freeing up the stuck
actuator
piston located on the front end of the Master Cylinder. It required
disassembly
of the master cylinder and pushing the piston from it’s bore , A
light

honing of

this bore was necessary. The brake problem is solved!

ken thompson wrote:

Enlisting the lister help

When I adopted my S2 back in June this year, the brakes would not
immediately release after application. After a few minutes, they
did

release and all was well until the next application. This all
occurred

after the car warmed up. The listers good advice was to replace
the

hose,

which I did-all three. Life was good.
Now a few weeks later, after a nice 20 miles drive today I had
need

to

apply the brakes and they froze-period. Stopped very well but did
not

release as before. I exited the car and under the bonnet I
relieved

pressure on the left front disc by openng the bleed screw. This
provided

full release of the brakes. I did this again as required each
stop

until

arriving home. At home, After the car cooled considerably, the
brakes

released from the last application.
Please give me your help again .

Ken
71OTS, S2

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