[E-Type] License plate suggestions

E-Type
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In message 005795C6.1246@raychem.com, JDUHIG@Raychem.com writes

Pete Willetts said:

Im looking for an appropriate plate name for the cat…nothing too cute or
strange but a name that will convey the spirit of a Jaguar …no more than 7
digits…anyone have any good suggestions…
Don’t know about good suggestions but here’s my offerings:

SIR BILL or JAGWAH E or NOR DEWIS or MA SAYER or PURRRRR or VROOOOM or
TWIN CAM or FLAT OUT or TX LYONS/SAYER/DEWIS etc or EEEEEEE or PEETYPE
(Pete Type).–
Angus Moss '65 OTS WIth nothing better to do tonight!

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JDUHIG@Raychem.com wrote:

Pete Willetts said:

Im looking for an appropriate plate name for the cat…nothing too cute or
strange but a name that will convey the spirit of a Jaguar …no more than 7
digits…anyone have any good suggestions…

How about I8THERD I ate the road Actually I guess it should be
I eat the road but it’s a little harder to make it work.

Or SUKEXAST

M. Bennett
62 fhc

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It depends on the car you have if it is a sports jag I would recommend something
that shows it’s speed if it was a luxury jag I would recommend something a little
more classy what model is it

Angus Moss wrote:> In message 005795C6.1246@raychem.com, JDUHIG@Raychem.com writes

Pete Willetts said:

Im looking for an appropriate plate name for the cat…nothing too cute or
strange but a name that will convey the spirit of a Jaguar …no more than 7
digits…anyone have any good suggestions…
Don’t know about good suggestions but here’s my offerings:

SIR BILL or JAGWAH E or NOR DEWIS or MA SAYER or PURRRRR or VROOOOM or
TWIN CAM or FLAT OUT or TX LYONS/SAYER/DEWIS etc or EEEEEEE or PEETYPE
(Pete Type).

Angus Moss '65 OTS WIth nothing better to do tonight!

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My guess would be an Infiniti … anything divided by zero is infinity.
Has to be an engineer driving it.
Paul----- Original Message -----
From: R. Greg Lovingfoss lovingfoss@lovingfoss.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] License plate suggestions.-No Jag Content -

At 10:39 PM 7/12/99 -0700, Pete wrote:

Im looking for an appropriate plate name for the cat…
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This doesn’t apply for an E-Type, however, it may be found amusing. Here
in the Washington Post there is a weekly transportation column called Dr.
Gridlock. Occasionally Dr. Gridlock prints a license plat and ask the
readers to guess the car it was found on. The latest: ----" 1 DIV 0
"----- (quotes not included). Can anyone guess this car? (no one in the
Washington area allowed to answer).

Interesting aside: the car this plate appeared on was correctly guessed by
the Judge Lyndquest, Chief Justice of the US.

R. Greg Lovingfoss
Maryland
64’ SI FHC - driver
64’ SI OTS - work-in-progress

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Hey Pete,
The license plate on my former S2 Coupe…ALLNOSE (does not apply
to the driver)
The license plate on my current S1 OTS…OBEHAVE (an obvious homage
to Austin Powers if spoken with the correct awful cockney accent)
The license plate on my buddy’s XJ6…JUSJAGN (he doesn’t get
out much)
Others that I have seen in the Central Oklahoma Jaguar Club:

PRTYKTY
LPNCAT
And my second choice due to the absolutely outstanding Lucas
electrical system on my E:

HMBYDRK (Home By Dark)
Ray,64 OTS,swapping license plates from the Buick>From: “Joan Gleadle” joan_gleadle@email.msn.com

Reply-To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] License plate suggestions…
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:30:00 -0700

Lots of luck. All the cute ones are taken. You could try Grrrrrrr?

Joan Gleadle

----- Original Message -----
From: PWilletts@aol.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 10:17 PM
Subject: [E-Type] License plate suggestions…

Im looking for an appropriate plate name for the cat…nothing too
cute
or
strange but a name that will convey the spirit of a Jaguar …no more
than 7
digits…anyone have any good suggestions… Pete Willetts

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I’ve been thinking about applying for JAG WAH in New Jersey, especially after
seeing it used in an article in British Car magazine a year or so ago.

Warren Arthur Hansen
(But in the interactive CD-Rom, Sir William clearly makes it a 3 syllable
word: JAG-you-ah !

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At 08:11 PM 7/13/99 -0400, Paul wrote:==============================

My guess would be an Infiniti … anything divided by zero is infinity.
Has to be an engineer driving it.
Paul
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Paul and all others:
YES it was an INFINITI…and although it may be driven by an engineer,
it was our Chief Justice that guessed it first in the Washington Post.

R. Greg Lovingfoss
Maryland
64’ SI FHC - driver
64’ SI OTS - work-in-progress

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Great sense of humor—keep them coming!!
Mike Winney-----Original Message-----
From: John DeMasi demasi@spacelab.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org e-type@jag-lovers.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] License plate suggestions…

OK, this is the first time I’m posting here, but maybe I can help with some
(hopefully) clever suggestions for vanity plates for Jag E-Types. My sum
total
of mechanical knowledge of Jag’s amounts to less than most of you have
forgotten
about these blessed, cursed machines. Nevertheless, I’m going to go out on
a
limb here and make a fool of myself with a David Letterman style top ten
list of
Jaguar E-Type suggested vanity plates, from the home office in (where else)
Coventry, England:

10- JAG HAG
9- PAWHOUSE
8- CAT LOVR
7- MICK JAGR
6- 9 LIVES
5- PURRFECT
4- NUTS R US
3- CRCT BRKR (that’s supposed to be circuit breaker, a little double
entendre
:wink:
2- SHAGUAR (Oops, that’s taken!)

and

1- PUSS E

All right, I know if I were standing in front of all of you, I’d be pelted
with
tomatoes. But hey, since I’m not, here are two more bonus suggestions:

MOUSPLAY
IN HEAT (to be used in the summer)

John DeMasi
Revell Plastic Model, 1998

Erik Koik wrote:

4 POINT 2 (or 3 POINT 8)

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org]
On
Behalf Of PWilletts@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 1:17 AM
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [E-Type] License plate suggestions…

Im looking for an appropriate plate name for the cat…nothing too cute
or
strange but a name that will convey the spirit of a Jaguar …no more
than
7
digits…anyone have any good suggestions… Pete Willetts

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I recently received a brochure from Triple C of York, PA. 1-888-854-4081

This brochure includes an interesting discussion and advertisement on U.S. Made
UK License plates.

They look quite good and you have a choice of 7 letters. Prices range from 35-45
USD

Thomas Lanahan
1969 E-Type Original Owners
Ft. Lauderdale

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how about:

TONSOFUN
LOTSOFUN

reflecting the feelings I’ve been experiencing since I got mine back last
week…

or

GHOSTCHZ if you havent had any luck getting rid of the Lucas Ghosts

Pascal
Miami, FL

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To All,

A few further plate thoughts:						
									
									
									
	SCATCAT								
									
									
									
	SNAKETR (Eats those nasty Cobras that claimed in the old

‘60’s song to “leave the Jags … so far behind that we could coast to the
line.” Altho am not sure all of our buggies are up to the claim, but braggin’
is so 'Merican, so why not.)

VETAL8R (Same as above except threatens Corvettes with annialation,

same caveats apply too)

		CATALAC (Just a SIII (2+2) owner claiming what glory

he can from the fact that our wondrous cats are great comfortable grand
touring machines, the Cadillacs of the Jag E world, altho I guess the various
Marks and XJS folk would have their own claims)

Barry SIII (2+2)

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I have to disagree. The correct path for the electric current is from
the battery, through the ignition switch, then to the distributor. At
the distributor the current goes to ground if the points are closed, or
if the points are open it briefly charges the capacitor and then has no
path to ground (ie open circuit).

The distributor is designed for a condition where the points are always
closed (ie ignition is on but engine not turning)and in this case the
coil is always "connecting the coil’s output to ground.

The only thing I believe that could cause a fried distributor is that
either the coil was somehow internally shorted thus causing a full 12
volts to be shorted to ground through the distributor, or someone had
miswired the ignition circuit and connected a full 12 volts from the
ignition to the distributor (most likely)

Dennis 69 OTS

Larry Schear wrote:>

Hi, Roger -

Sounds as though the capacitor (condenser) suffered a rare failure -
internal short, such that it drew full current from the battery through the
ignition switch through the primary winding of the ignition coil to ground
in the distributor. Unusual, but not unheard of. I’d suspect that the
ignition switch contacts were at least suspect, too. Something in this
link had to eventually break!

Messy, but if that’s all that’s wrong, worth considering!

Good luck!

Larry Schear
Twin Cam, Inc.

At 10:32 PM 7/11/99 -0700, you wrote:

Today I looked at a car with a friend, and all of the internals in the
distributor were toasted. The low-tension lead had melted, as had the lead
from condensor to the points. The external wiring to the distributor looked
fine, though the main coil lead also had been melted or at least was pretty
darn scorched at the coil.

Any thoughts on what might cause such havoc in the distributor?

Roger Los

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Hi Dennis
I totally agree, the only way this can happen in my experience is if the
car has been hot wired to the wrong side of the coil (a full 12v down to
the points) or something like an MSD Blaster coil has Been fitted without a
resister in the line, (without the resister the results are the same as the
hot wire scenario).
Regards
John J. Black
@John_Black
http://www.classicjaguar.com----------

From: dkmacm@bc.sympatico.ca
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Fried distributor
Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 10:23 PM

I have to disagree. The correct path for the electric current is from
the battery, through the ignition switch, then to the distributor. At
the distributor the current goes to ground if the points are closed, or
if the points are open it briefly charges the capacitor and then has no
path to ground (ie open circuit).

The distributor is designed for a condition where the points are always
closed (ie ignition is on but engine not turning)and in this case the
coil is always "connecting the coil’s output to ground.

The only thing I believe that could cause a fried distributor is that
either the coil was somehow internally shorted thus causing a full 12
volts to be shorted to ground through the distributor, or someone had
miswired the ignition circuit and connected a full 12 volts from the
ignition to the distributor (most likely)

Dennis 69 OTS

Larry Schear wrote:

Hi, Roger -

Sounds as though the capacitor (condenser) suffered a rare failure -
internal short, such that it drew full current from the battery through
the
ignition switch through the primary winding of the ignition coil to
ground
in the distributor. Unusual, but not unheard of. I’d suspect that the
ignition switch contacts were at least suspect, too. Something in this
link had to eventually break!

Messy, but if that’s all that’s wrong, worth considering!

Good luck!

Larry Schear
Twin Cam, Inc.

At 10:32 PM 7/11/99 -0700, you wrote:

Today I looked at a car with a friend, and all of the internals in the
distributor were toasted. The low-tension lead had melted, as had the
lead
from condensor to the points. The external wiring to the distributor
looked
fine, though the main coil lead also had been melted or at least was
pretty
darn scorched at the coil.

Any thoughts on what might cause such havoc in the distributor?

Roger Los

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John, I think that you and Dennis have Larry and me on the run. I am willing to
admit that some mis-wiring has probably occurred at the coil, but how do you
guys explain this. . .

Roger Los wrote:

The low-tension lead had melted, as had the lead
from condensor to the points.

. . .without conceding that the condenser had shorted out? If Roger would
kindly come out from under his car, could help out by returning to the scene of
the crime to determine if the wiring is correct.

Not yet throwing in the towel,
Randall

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Unfortunately, it was a car a friend was considering buying, but, as usual,
he’s passing by a decent deal in order to wallow and lament about there not
being any good cars out there. Whatever.

But the

a) coil was stock
b) it was a Lucas 25D distributor
c) the low tension lead crumbled into bits melted
4) the lead from the condensor to the points was melted
5) it had that nice electrical BBQ smell
6) the cap looked fine, as did the main harness-to-distributor lead
7) The plastic insulators on the points were all melted, so it was
impossible to determine whether that had all been hooked up properly
8) The low tension lead from coil to distributor was a replacement, could
have been there for years, might have been replaced as a result of melting.
(The coil and distributor are right next to each other on this machine, so
this wire does not go through the loom.)

I wonder whether the scorched and toasted main coil high tension lead was a
seperate problem having to do with the lead not being pressed home all of
the way, and erosion from arcing.

This was a TR4, but it’s all the same stuff, really. Thanks all for your
suggestions, but since my friend is laming out, and the car is 40 miles
away, I will not be able to do any more investigative work.

–Roger Los-----Original Message-----
From: owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org]On
Behalf Of Randall Carlson
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 12:57 PM
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Fried distributor

John, I think that you and Dennis have Larry and me on the run. I am willing
to
admit that some mis-wiring has probably occurred at the coil, but how do you
guys explain this. . .

Roger Los wrote:

The low-tension lead had melted, as had the lead
from condensor to the points.

. . .without conceding that the condenser had shorted out? If Roger would
kindly come out from under his car, could help out by returning to the scene
of
the crime to determine if the wiring is correct.

Not yet throwing in the towel,
Randall

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Roger, I’ve enjoyed this thread and since I like electrical troubleshooting
I’ll add my two cents.
Mike-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Los roger@los.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org e-type@jag-lovers.org
Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: [E-Type] Fried distributor

a) coil was stock
b) it was a Lucas 25D distributor
c) the low tension lead crumbled into bits melted
—direct short, primary circuit caused by #4 below—
4) the lead from the condensor to the points was melted
—or, in reality, from points to condensor. Condensor shorted to ground,
dielectric breakdown—
5) it had that nice electrical BBQ smell
–often shorted condensors have a unique odor—
6) the cap looked fine, as did the main harness-to-distributor lead
7) The plastic insulators on the points were all melted, so it was
impossible to determine whether that had all been hooked up properly
—probably melted in conjunction with overheated shorted wires—
8) The low tension lead from coil to distributor was a replacement, could
have been there for years, might have been replaced as a result of melting.
(The coil and distributor are right next to each other on this machine, so
this wire does not go through the loom.)

I wonder whether the scorched and toasted main coil high tension lead was a
seperate problem having to do with the lead not being pressed home all of
the way, and erosion from arcing.

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Hang in there, Randall -

The condenser is grounded to the distributor swash plate through its
mounting bolt, and, thence, to the chassis ground and the battery earth, as
does the non-moving portion of the breaker points. The wire from the other
side of the condenser connects to the moveable side of the breaker points,
the one that’s also connected to the ignition coil (low-tension side)
through the flexible wire in the distributor to the outside terminal
(through an insulating block). The other side of the ignition coil
connects through the ignition switch to the other (hot) side of the
battery. TGhis is a simplified, but operational ignition system. A
resistor may be in the low0tension circuit, between the ignition switch and
the ignition coil, with a bypass relay to provide more voltage during
cranking. The only way for the condenser wire to melt is for the condenser
(capacitor!) to develop an internal short, thereby shunting battery voltage
from the ignition switch through the ignition coil (and resistor, if it’s
there) through the flexible distributor wire to the condenser and straight
to ground! Have you checked the condition of the ignition capacitor yet?

Oh, well; it’s an internally self-consistent argument!

Good hunting!

Larry Schear
Twin Cam, Inc.

At 12:56 PM 7/15/99 -0700, you wrote:

John, I think that you and Dennis have Larry and me on the run. I am
willing to
admit that some mis-wiring has probably occurred at the coil, but how do you
guys explain this. . .

Roger Los wrote:

The low-tension lead had melted, as had the lead
from condensor to the points.

. . .without conceding that the condenser had shorted out? If Roger would
kindly come out from under his car, could help out by returning to the
scene of>the crime to determine if the wiring is correct.

Not yet throwing in the towel,
Randall

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In the electronics industry the unexplained usually is explained by the
fallback position: “Lightning strike” !!!

Dennis 69 OTS

Randall Carlson wrote:>

John, I think that you and Dennis have Larry and me on the run. I am willing to
admit that some mis-wiring has probably occurred at the coil, but how do you
guys explain this. . .

Roger Los wrote:

The low-tension lead had melted, as had the lead
from condensor to the points.

. . .without conceding that the condenser had shorted out? If Roger would
kindly come out from under his car, could help out by returning to the scene of
the crime to determine if the wiring is correct.

Not yet throwing in the towel,
Randall

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[E-Type] License plate suggestions…

Im looking for an appropriate plate name for the cat…nothing too cute
or
strange but a name that will convey the spirit of a Jaguar …no more
than
7
digits…anyone have any good suggestions… Pete Willetts

How about:

FIXEDIT

Bill B

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UMM,

PDQXKE
(prety darn quick…)

Bill B-----Original Message-----
From: N23998@aol.com N23998@aol.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org e-type@jag-lovers.org
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] License plate suggestions…