Yesterday on the way back from the autocross I ran into the
back of a Subaru. In a line of stop and go traffic, the
line suddenly stopped but I couldn’t. Top of the bonnet is
crunched, but the internal frames look OK so far. The
engine started and ran fine, oil pressure was OK, but the
radiator was hit and coolant ran out. The car ran under
the Subaru’s bumper, so there was no major impact. I
didn’t even hit anything inside the car, and so nobody was
injured.
Hagerty has given me a great immediate response, and said
that there was no deductible on my policy. They would
settle the claim based on the initial estimate by Images,
which will start when they get in today. Perhaps if I am
lucky it will take a new bonnet and a minor repair to the
edge behind the bonnet. Could be more involved of course
as the inspection continues.
In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
Whoa! No injuries, that’s the main thing. Perhaps
radiator and bonnet mounts. And MIK is now a tad more
aerodynamic. Here’s to a speedy recovery.–
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radiator was hit and coolant ran out. The car ran under
the Subaru’s bumper, so there was no major impact. I
didn’t even hit anything inside the car, and so nobody was
injured.
Boo Hoo! Most likely won’t make the BCOL, but we’ll see.
Jerry
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Ralph, 1970 FHC, 1R27295
Coastal NJ, United States
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
Sooo Sorry to hear that Jerry. Enough to make a grown man cry.–
jim neel san luis obispo ca 63 fhc in resto
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
Oh Jerry - I am so sorry to hear this! I am sick looking
at the damage, but happy to learn that no one got hurt. The
bonnet is toast from what I see, will Images replace it?–
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Yesterday on the way back from the autocross I ran into the
back of a Subaru. In a line of stop and go traffic, the
line suddenly stopped but I couldn’t. Top of the bonnet is
crunched, but the internal frames look OK so far. The
Jerry Mouton '64 FHC 889791 ‘MIK Jaguar’
Palo Alto, California, United States
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john carey : (888373) Bettie IV - my '63 S1 FHC
Los Gatos/California, United States
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
Really sorry to see this Jerry. Glad you’re ok and I’ll be
looking forward to the day you get MIK on the road.–
Craig Gilbert - '68 E-Type FHC - RIP
Birmingham, AL, United States
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In reply to a message from Craig_G sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
So sorry to hear this Jerry. Glad you are OK though.–
Neville - http://www.XJ13.eu, XJ13 in-progress 1962 3.4 MK2
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
wow, Jerry. That sucks!
It’s all replaceable, though. Glad no one was injured.–
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Yesterday on the way back from the autocross I ran into the
back of a Subaru. In a line of stop and go traffic, the
line suddenly stopped but I couldn’t. Top of the bonnet is
crunched, but the internal frames look OK so far. The
engine started and ran fine, oil pressure was OK, but the
radiator was hit and coolant ran out. The car ran under
the Subaru’s bumper, so there was no major impact. I
didn’t even hit anything inside the car, and so nobody was
injured.
–
Bill Gutierrez, '61 OTS '73 OTS
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OMG Jerry, that looks horrific! Surely has to be a new bonnet. I
reckon this will come out to at least $10 - 15kOn Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:38 AM, mouton jerry@moutons.org wrote:
Yesterday on the way back from the autocross I ran into the
back of a Subaru. In a line of stop and go traffic, the
line suddenly stopped but I couldn’t. Top of the bonnet is
crunched, but the internal frames look OK so far. The
engine started and ran fine, oil pressure was OK, but the
radiator was hit and coolant ran out. The car ran under
the Subaru’s bumper, so there was no major impact. I
didn’t even hit anything inside the car, and so nobody was
injured.
Hagerty has given me a great immediate response, and said
that there was no deductible on my policy. They would
settle the claim based on the initial estimate by Images,
which will start when they get in today. Perhaps if I am
lucky it will take a new bonnet and a minor repair to the
edge behind the bonnet. Could be more involved of course
as the inspection continues.
In reply to a message from Les Halls sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
Thanks for all the kind words, friends.
I just got back from Images, and Dave Ferguson says he can
get the car finished – like new – before the BCOL! We’ll
see, but he already has a new bonnet and all new engine
frames, as well as the other parts needed as far as he can
tell. Hagerty is being great and work with Dave all the
time. Dave pointed out that given the disassembly required
I could add a number of nice improvements on my own dime
that are easy and cheap under the circumstances (new cad
plating on the suspension, new clutch, new front seal, new
windshield, etc.) I hate to lose the patina under the
hood, but the concours look is another nice one.
If I had to do all these things (which I had not expected
to do for 10 more years) it would have taken me years.
Done to perfection (or similar) in a month? Yeah, I’ll
take it!
Jerry–
Jerry Mouton '64 FHC 889791 ‘MIK Jaguar’
Palo Alto, California, United States
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
That’s great news from Dave Ferguson, Jerry! And having it
ready for the BCOL would be fantastic. Something else to
look forward to seeing on the BCOL in July.
Best of luck with MIK’s refresh!
–Drew–
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I just got back from Images, and Dave Ferguson says he can
get the car finished – like new – before the BCOL! We’ll
–
DrewScherz, 1969 FHC, 1R26870 & 1967 FHC, 1E33801
Austin, Texas, United States
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
Jerry,
OMG that’s awful. I’m most glad you weren’t injured. I
guess that generous crumple zone did its job satisfactorily.
I can’t recall whether you already raised your coverage or
not, but even if you were still around 60K you should be
fine. Worst case here I’d hope would be around 30-40K.
I’ll be surprised if the frames were unscathed but maybe you
got lucky and the geometry was just perfect enough to only
crunch it at bonnet height. It warrants deep inspection.
It looks like you might have gotten really lucky with the
limited bulkhead damage. Hopefully none of the places where
the frames attach got pushed back.
It’s a real shame in any event given how original you’ve
kept it under the bonnet to this point. In my limited
experience with Hagerty, they’re going to make this as pain
free as possible for you, so that’s a bright side.
While your memory is still fresh, do you remember if the
brakes locked up or were they just not up to the task, or
did you brake late? I’ve always found stop and go freeway
traffic to be really challenging in these things since
you’re lower than just about anything that might be in front
of you, except another old sports car. Amazingly though,
most often, it’s the person behind me locking up brakes and
that totally freaks me out.–
Erica Madison Moss 64 3.8 OTS
Austin,TX, United States
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
New bonnet for sure. Condolences, Jerry. Makes my little
mishap from four weeks ago look trivial but from the
sounds of things you’ll get MIK back before mine’s done!
Bright side is you’re ok. Anything that you can fix is not
all that serious. It’s the stuff you can’t fix that messes
up your life.–
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I just got back from Images, and Dave Ferguson says he can
get the car finished – like new – before the BCOL! We’ll
–
Nick Saltarelli '68 Cdn mkt E-type S1� OTS, '54 XK120SE OTS
Niagara, Ontario, Canada
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Ok… where can I find a Suburu like that…
LLo…, ummm, Joe
“What terrifies religious extremists like the Taliban are not American tanks or bombs or bullets, it’s a girl with a book.”
Malala Yousafzai----- Original Message -----
Thanks for all the kind words, friends.
I just got back from Images, and Dave Ferguson says he can
get the car finished – like new – before the BCOL! We’ll
see, but he already has a new bonnet and all new engine
frames, as well as the other parts needed as far as he can
tell. Hagerty is being great and work with Dave all the
time. Dave pointed out that given the disassembly required
I could add a number of nice improvements on my own dime
that are easy and cheap under the circumstances (new cad
plating on the suspension, new clutch, new front seal, new
windshield, etc.) I hate to lose the patina under the
hood, but the concours look is another nice one.
If I had to do all these things (which I had not expected
to do for 10 more years) it would have taken me years.
Done to perfection (or similar) in a month? Yeah, I’ll
take it! …
In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
Sorry to see the damage to Mik,lucky all the parts are immediately
available,glad you walked away from this.
Regards Gerry 878269–
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Yesterday on the way back from the autocross I ran into the
back of a Subaru. In a line of stop and go traffic, the
line suddenly stopped but I couldn’t. Top of the bonnet is
crunched, but the internal frames look OK so far. The
engine started and ran fine, oil pressure was OK, but the
radiator was hit and coolant ran out. The car ran under
the Subaru’s bumper, so there was no major impact. I
didn’t even hit anything inside the car, and so nobody was
injured.
In reply to a message from Erica Moss sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
Erica,
Yes valuation was upped to $65K. Dave was kind of
horrified because he said it was worth more (he appraised
it at $105K a few months ago) and if the front had hit a
bumper and mashed the frames into the bulkhead, it would
have cost that to fix it.
Frames, Dave said they had no strength downward and he
would want to replace them under these circumstances. The
motor mounts had broken and the motor crunched into the
picture frame, so that was ruined. The front bonnet frame
was bent on the driver’s side. All to be replaced, but
bulkhead mounts all OK.
Brakes were applied firmly but I did not lock them – I
just braked too late. No complaints about the brakes at
all. The hard braking lowered the nose even more and
probably eased the burrowing under the Subaru. I glanced
down at the instruments or radio for a second and when I
looked up the cars were dead stopped ahead. Definitely my
fault. So glad nobody was hurt.–
Jerry Mouton '64 FHC 889791 ‘MIK Jaguar’
Palo Alto, California, United States
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Jerry, what a shame!! We know Images will make it look like it never
happened but its painful to see.
pauls
Yesterday on the way back from the autocross I ran into the
back of a Subaru…
<<<<<<<<<<From: “mouton” jerry@moutons.org
Subject: [E-Type] MIK Jaguar Crunched!
In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
Really sorry to hear that Jerry. That’s something I’m always
afraid of in those kind of traffic situations and I know it
can happen in an instant.
Yes, good that you raised your insurance. (I did too about
the same time.) I imagine if one has a too low sum insured,
like say $30k, the insurance would just pay out in full and
keep the car.
Glad that you have someone competent like Images to look
after the repair, too.–
Clive, '62 Coupe 860320
Ontario, Canada
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 15 Jun 2015:
Yikes. Just seen this. Next time anyone complains about
insurance premiums just figure out how to make money on X
premiums and 50X payouts. Hopefully the tour will be a
good start to your patina replenishment!
Pete–
1E75339 66 D, 1R27190 70 FHC, 79 S2 XJ12L
Gaithersburg, Maryland, United States
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In reply to a message from PeterCrespin sent Tue 16 Jun 2015:
I believe you raise X premiums for everyone…a lot.–
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Yikes. Just seen this. Next time anyone complains about
insurance premiums just figure out how to make money on X
premiums and 50X payouts. Hopefully the tour will be a
–
Eric
DFW Texas, United States
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