[E-Type] New Fuel Lines

I am replacing the white plastic fuel line.
Is there a trick to installing the fittings?
Seems to me I read about boiling it in water first?
Any experience out there? Do tell please.
Also is the felt pad under the gas tank for sound deadening or support?
Thanks!
Randy Anderson
Des Moines ,Iowa
62 E-Type FHC

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Randy,

I don’t recall the answer to the fuel line question (I know its in the
archives though) but I can answer your question regarding the pad. Its
there to collect moisture so that the car has yet another place to rust out
:>)

Allan Pebworth
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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 3:46 PM
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [E-Type] New Fuel Lines

I am replacing the white plastic fuel line.
Is there a trick to installing the fittings?
Seems to me I read about boiling it in water first?
Any experience out there? Do tell please.
Also is the felt pad under the gas tank for sound deadening or support?
Thanks!
Randy Anderson
Des Moines ,Iowa
62 E-Type FHC

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In reply to a message from radata3@mchsi.com sent Fri 22 Oct 2004:

Randy,

Its best to boil some water and let the nylon fuel line heat up a
bit, 3-4 mins or so, have the fitting ready and wearing some gloves
force the fitting into the nylon tube quickly, it is still hard to
get in but without any heat its near impossible.
I found it best to clamp the fitting in a vice and force the tube
onto the fitting that way, working it on with a side to side motion.

Dave–
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I am replacing the white plastic fuel line.
Is there a trick to installing the fittings?
Seems to me I read about boiling it in water first?
Any experience out there? Do tell please.
Also is the felt pad under the gas tank for sound deadening or support?
Thanks!


'61 OTS, I’ll do work for parts
Pershore, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from Dave K sent Sat 23 Oct 2004:

Anyone in the UK know a cheap source for this stuff. I’ve only seen
it in pre-cut kits at silly prices, including the eBay regular
seller.–
Peter Crespin 94 X300 Daimler / 66 2+2 ‘E’
Buxton, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from radata3@mchsi.com sent Fri 22 Oct 2004:

Randy, I have just installed a new plastic line and found after
several failed attempts with boiling water, that an improved method
was to use a electrical heat gun, by placing the fitting in a vice
and heating the fitting then pushing the hose on to the fitting.
It also helps to have the hose cut square and open the end of the
hose to give lead on to the fitting. Also the hose has some
ridgidity, don’t wana twist, so you have to pay attention to the
angle of the fittings when installing them. Good look Roger.–
wheels,wilkinson.
Strathmore, Alberta., Canada
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Peter

I beleave it’s only nylon tubing as used the world over for pneumatics.

Very cheep but usualy sold in coils of around 25 meters so you need one or
two people to join you.

Your local supplier may sell it by meter.

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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] New Fuel Lines

In reply to a message from Dave K sent Sat 23 Oct 2004:

Anyone in the UK know a cheap source for this stuff. I’ve only seen
it in pre-cut kits at silly prices, including the eBay regular
seller.

Peter Crespin 94 X300 Daimler / 66 2+2 ‘E’
Buxton, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from wheels,wilkinson. sent Sat 23 Oct 2004:

Hi All,

I just received a set of plastic hoses from XK’s with the banjos
attached.

Does the flat side of the banjo fit against the fuel tank lid and
then on the other side the recessed lip fit against the fuel pump
or do I have to twist the line to get the flat side against the
fuel pump.

I am concerned about the banjo orientaion as I am fighting a fuel
smell problem.

I am considering using the green or blue loctite on the banjo
threads tokeep them tight. Which do you thik is best for this?

Many thanks,

Shelley Yoelin–
69 FHC
La Grange Park, IL, United States
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Randy,
Ask Jerry Mouton, he’s done it.
pauls 67ots

I am replacing the white plastic fuel line.
Is there a trick to installing the fittings?
Seems to me I read about boiling it in water first?
Any experience out there? Do tell please.
Also is the felt pad under the gas tank for sound deadening or support?
Thanks!
Randy Anderson
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Subject: [E-Type] New Fuel Lines

In reply to a message from Paul Spurlock sent Sat 23 Oct 2004:

Incidentally, if you are into detail I believe all the plastic
fuel hose should be clear and not white/opaque.

George Knuckey
Renton, WA.–
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In reply to a message from radata3@mchsi.com sent Fri 22 Oct 2004:

Randy:
I did the same as Roger described - heat up the fitting while held
in a vice them push the fuel line on. Works perfectly.
I replaced the felt pad with a piece of neoprene similar to wet
suit material. That way it is a closed cell pad and won’t hold
water.
BRU S11–
The original message included these comments:

I am replacing the white plastic fuel line.
Is there a trick to installing the fittings?
Seems to me I read about boiling it in water first?
Any experience out there? Do tell please.
Also is the felt pad under the gas tank for sound deadening or support?


Brian Hughes
British Columbia, Canada
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In reply to a message from Shelley Yoelin* sent Sat 23 Oct 2004:

Hi, shelly, If you have problems sealing the bango fittings try new
alluminuim or fiber washers, and check to see if there are any
scatches or nicks in the male part of the fitting. If you have one
bad fitting you can try a wrap of teflon tape.As to where the
fittings fit I am not sure I have a 66 4.2 coup and both fittings
on the tank gas line are the same. Roger.–
wheels,wilkinson.
Strathmore, Alberta., Canada
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In reply to a message from Shelley Yoelin* sent Sat 23 Oct 2004:

The way I’ve always fitted banjos for oil,fuel etc that have a
recess (many don’t) is with the recess against the part being
connected to and the flat side under the head of the fastener being
used.

Fibre or alloy washers go into the recess and will stand slightly
proud, giving a secure sealing surface that can’t squeeze out
against the tank or pump or whatever. Another fibre or annealed
alloy / copper washer goes under the head of the banjo bolt. The E-
type washers were alloy I believe. Blue Hylomar or Red Hermetite
are fuel resistant but silicone definitely is not and should not be
used anywhere near a fuel system. Or engine oilways come to that.

There should be no need to use Loctite on those threads. It is
better to arrange a lock-wire but those are big banjos and in a
stable environment so I can’t envisage them ever coming undone
since there should be little flexing to loosen them. YMMV etc.–
Peter Crespin 94 X300 Daimler / 66 2+2 ‘E’
Buxton, United Kingdom
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Installing the fittings on the new fuel line is easy.
I took two pieces of scrap oak, 3"X3"X3/4" think will work. Clamp them
together so you have a 3"X3" block 1-1/2" thick and drill a hole about 1
drill size smaller than the OD of the fuel line down the seam where the two
blocks of wood join. When you unclamp the blocks you will have 1/2 of the
hole in each block. To insert the fittings place the fuel line in the hole
in the two blocks and chuck that in your bench vise. Leave about 1" of the
fuel line sticking out of the blocks. Tap the fitting in with a rubber
mallet, use multiple light taps so you don’t distort the fitting. I didn’t
need to lubricate the fitting before installation. I picked this tip up
from someone on this list years ago. It works well and doesn’t mar the fuel
line.

John

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In a message dated 10/22/04 5:12:56 PM, owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org writes:

Subject: Re: [E-Type] New Fuel Lines

I am considering using the green or blue loctite on the banjo
threads tokeep them tight. Which do you thik is best for this?

Many thanks,

Shelley Yoelin

Hylomar on just about everything. Really amaxing stuff. Even works to keep
Brit bikes from leaking.

I use it on all gasoline fittings on my Jaguar and in a lot of other places.

After you look at the stuff, you will wonder why it works, but it does.

Richard H. Kuschel

“I canna’ change the Law of Physics” -----Scotty

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In reply to a message from Peter Crespin sent Sat 23 Oct 2004:

Pete,

There is a stall at Stoneleigh that sells it by the metre, that’s
where I bought mine from.
How much do you need? if its the whole lot then I can’t help but I
may have some lying around. I used st.st pipe for my fuel line
(what a surprise!) and used nylon at both ends for the final
connection.

Dave–
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In reply to a message from Dave K sent Sat 23 Oct 2004:
Anyone in the UK know a cheap source for this stuff. I’ve only seen
it in pre-cut kits at silly prices, including the eBay regular
seller.
Peter Crespin 94 X300 Daimler / 66 2+2 ‘E’


'61 OTS, I’ll do work for parts
Pershore, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from Dave K sent Sat 23 Oct 2004:

Hmm, yes, nice. Bring your scraps and I’ll bring a tape measure…

Always happy to help fellow listers clear their garages of useless
junk. I’m into recycling you know… :-)–
Peter Crespin 94 X300 Daimler / 66 2+2 ‘E’
Buxton, United Kingdom
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