[E-Type] NYT Classic Car of the Year 2010

http://collectiblecars.nytimes.com/Contest/Vote.asp#COL1001271

The beautiful red FHC that was recently linked in another thread is
a finalist for this. Gattino Rosso – Red Kitty. Restoration was
truly a labor of love and money, and the owner does a great job of
expressing what the E Type is all about.

If you care, go to the NYT link above and vote for it. Would be
nice to highlight the E Type there. You do have to sign up, but
there’s no charge. You can vote once a day.

Jerry–
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

…or you could vote for the SAAB Sonett III… :wink:

Lester–
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

Thanks for posting Jerry. That’s a lovely car. The picture
of the engine is really good! I think the 3.8’s engine is
one of the prettiest ever made. That shot really shows it off.

Lester, the saab looks great too! Is it yours? There is a
group of 6 saab sonnet guys living up here that I’ve seen a
bunch of times on Angeles Crest Hwy - now closed due to
landslides:( They rocket down that road!!! I’m scared to
try and keep up with them. Are they nuts or is the car that
good?

Cheers,

Larry–
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http://collectiblecars.nytimes.com/Contest/Vote.asp#COL1001271
The beautiful red FHC that was recently linked in another thread is
a finalist for this. Gattino Rosso – Red Kitty. Restoration was
truly a labor of love and money, and the owner does a great job of
expressing what the E Type is all about.
Jerry


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In reply to a message from Larry Wade sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

The SAAB is not mine, but I KNOW THOSE GUYS!! A couple of
them are road racing types so yes they are crazy, I have one
of the cars that used to make the run, it’s de-californiaized
tho’… no chrome wheels etc.

Anyway, the cars handle great, just no power. Don’t even try
on a wet road. Old SAABs win all sorts of races when the
weather turns lousy… :wink:

Lester–
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Lester, the saab looks great too! Is it yours? There is a
group of 6 saab sonnet guys living up here that I’ve seen a
bunch of times on Angeles Crest Hwy - now closed due to
landslides:( They rocket down that road!!! I’m scared to
try and keep up with them. Are they nuts or is the car that
good?
Cheers,
Larry


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In reply to a message from saabguy sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

I got to talk with them at Newcombs Ranch once. They are
very friendly…and quite enthusiastic about suckering me
into following them back down the mountain (which I did
until I remembered by mortal condition).

It’s tough to match them going downhill (unless you are
Jerry Mouton). I’m sure that I could keep up going uphill
due to their lack of power. The road end to end there has a
7,000 foot elevation change. It’s much more than that
though when all the ups and downs are figured in.

They love their sonnets and drive them with great enthusiasm!

Cheers,

Larry

PS I like their sonnets but love my e-type.–
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The SAAB is not mine, but I KNOW THOSE GUYS!! A couple of
them are road racing types so yes they are crazy, I have one
of the cars that used to make the run, it’s de-californiaized
tho’… no chrome wheels etc.
Lester


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In reply to a message from Larry Wade sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

‘‘I think the 3.8’s engine is
one of the prettiest ever made.’’

Larry, I agree…but that one’s a 4.2.–
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In reply to a message from Larry Wade sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

I sent my buddy a note saying that he was ‘‘famous’’ because
the Jag folk know of him, here is his response…

Hi Lester–you mean infamous. We usually go up Angeles Crest
Highway every Sunday to a place called Newcomb’s Ranch—
lots of bikes, fast cars, and great food and folks. Haven’t
been for a while–fire and then rain tore up the foothills
and road. Doing alternate roads now until the road opens
again.
For a look at the road and vehicles, on You Tube, check out
‘‘Bud Clark Sonett’’–taken by ‘‘rebaisalovesponge’’. Reba is
Vernon Atterberry’s SO.
Hope all is well, Bud.

There are times that I wish I lived on that far coast!

Lester–
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They love their sonnets and drive them with great enthusiasm!
Cheers,
Larry
PS I like their sonnets but love my e-type.


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In reply to a message from mouton sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

Hi Jerry,

You know, there was a special on this car in the Chronicle section
on cars last weekend. Beautiful. The pictures here are more
flattering in the richness of the red. The newspaper photos looked
like a regular signal red.

I’ld be shocked if the e-type doesn’t run away with this one…

Bill–
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The beautiful red FHC that was recently linked in another thread is
a finalist for this. Gattino Rosso – Red Kitty. Restoration was
truly a labor of love and money, and the owner does a great job of


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In reply to a message from Clive Wilkinson sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

D’oh!!

Thanks Clive.

I should have said that the picture is so good that the
engine looks great despite being a 4.2!

Cheers,

Larry–
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‘‘I think the 3.8’s engine is
one of the prettiest ever made.’’
Larry, I agree…but that one’s a 4.2.

Clive, '62 Coupe 860320


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In reply to a message from mouton sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

We never got the Sonnet in the UK. Wonder why? Looks a pretty
little car and would have sold well I reckon. Since the system
permits daily voting,I will have to toss a bone in the direction of
one or two other entrants besides the E-type.And how nice to see
the paper and the entrant use the E-type name rather than XKE.

Dunno though - ‘collectible’ is a word that really grates with me.
Same as ‘momento’. Since when has something be ‘ible’ to be
collected? Maybe I’m suffering ‘momory loss’. Many of the US
spellings make sense in a utilitarian sort of way. I dislike ‘thru’
but you can see the logic. Ditto ‘color’, ‘neighbor’ etc. but
what’s with collectible instead of collectable? That’s just
sloppiness way back when that didn’t get corrected (like most of my
posts though, I must admit). Why not stick to memento as something
which evokes memories?

Still, if the New York Times puts its weight behind such stuff I
suppose the battle is well and truly lost Stateside. Here’s hoping
it doesn’t creep over here - we’ve got enough on our hands trying
to wean kids off text-speak…

Grumpy Pete–
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If you care, go to the NYT link above and vote for it. Would be
nice to highlight the E Type there. You do have to sign up, but


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In reply to a message from PeterCrespin sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

Hi Pete,

It was pretty small series production anyway, I don’t think
they ever made any RHD, that could be the reason.

Of course that did not prevent MB 300SL’s or BMW 507’s to be
sold and registered new in the UK, but I think those were
there only because someone desperately wanted one!

Lester would know, this was just my impression based on what
I know.

Cheers,
Pekka T. 1E76372BW MOD–
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We never got the Sonnet in the UK. Wonder why? Looks a pretty
little car and would have sold well I reckon. Since the system
permits daily voting,I will have to toss a bone in the direction of
one or two other entrants besides the E-type.And how nice to see
the paper and the entrant use the E-type name rather than XKE.


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In reply to a message from Larry Wade sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

Hi,

Hmmm…IMO the 4.2 inlet manifold is a much better looking
setup than the 3.8 three piece plus a hassle of rods and
clips. So for me that is the most beautiful engine, yes!

About the competition, hmmm… The Sonett III is not a bad
looking car, but a choice between a S1 4.2 FHC (or a 2+2, or
an OTS) and any Saab Sonett is for me a very, very easy one! :wink:

The only other car there that got me excited was the Tatra
T87, but I am not sure I would actually like to drive one as
much as I like driving the Jaguars…

Cheers,
Pekka T. 1E76372BW MOD–
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D’oh!!
Thanks Clive.
I should have said that the picture is so good that the
engine looks great despite being a 4.2!
Cheers,
Larry


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In reply to a message from PeterCrespin sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

Sorry, Pete…Merriam Webster lists it as the first acceptable
spelling, and it’s the one I’ve used forever…THAT’s what with it!

Ya grumpy old sh*t…;):):slight_smile:


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but you can see the logic. Ditto ‘color’, ‘neighbor’ etc. but
what’s with collectible instead of collectable? That’s just
sloppiness way back when that didn’t get corrected (like most of my


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In reply to a message from saabguy sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

‘‘Handle great?’’

You musta driven different Sonnets than me, ol’ buddy…the only
car of the period that I can remember understeering WORSE than a
Sonnet was a Subaru!

a friend of mine describe the power of the Taunus engine this
way: ‘‘Well, there’s really not much torque down low, and on top
there’s really not much HP.’’

LOL!!–
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Anyway, the cars handle great, just no power. Don’t even try


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In reply to a message from Wiggles sent Wed 17 Mar 2010:

Hey now… 65 HP will move 1800 pounds around smartly and with
front wheel drive those things stick to the road. Not going
to even try in a drag race, the tranny’s weren’t changed much
from 33 HP two strokes to 65 HP four strokes!

… and like any other fun car there are a few who race 'em,
Jack Lawrence in NY has improved to close to 170 HP… heh…

Lester

… and this from MR DKW… Pffft… ;-)–
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a friend of mine describe the power of the Taunus engine this
way: ‘‘Well, there’s really not much torque down low, and on top
there’s really not much HP.’’
LOL!!

Paul Wigton, steward to a '60 DKW 1000 SP, Tweety, '63 FHC!


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In reply to a message from PeterCrespin sent Tue 16 Mar 2010:

Hehehe…your crankiness and mine are similar, but…then, I
remember that the VERY language we both revere and speak is a
mongrel borne out of utilitarian meldings of German, French,
Spanish, and a passel of other languages.

One of the degrees I always wanted (’‘Lottery’’ degrees!) is one in
linguistics, because language is such a fluid, ever-evolving thing.

The battle isn’t lost, Pete, and never will be: it will continue to
grow, transmogrify, and become even richer…Esperanto, anyone?
Wonder what ‘‘English’’ will be in the year 2525?

The more things change…the more fun it is to learn!

Ok. I’m thru, now.>:)

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Still, if the New York Times puts its weight behind such stuff I
suppose the battle is well and truly lost Stateside. Here’s hoping
it doesn’t creep over here - we’ve got enough on our hands trying
to wean kids off text-speak…


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In reply to a message from saabguy sent Wed 17 Mar 2010:

Hi Lester,

Ummm…1800 pounds? My 500cc 2-cyl. motorbike had ca. 65HP,
it weighed roughly 400 (US) pounds (180kg) and me ca. 140
pounds, so it did move quite nicely (up to 120mph) :wink:

Cheers!
Pekka T. 1E76372BW MOD–
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Hey now… 65 HP will move 1800 pounds around smartly and with
front wheel drive those things stick to the road. Not going
to even try in a drag race, the tranny’s weren’t changed much
from 33 HP two strokes to 65 HP four strokes!
… and like any other fun car there are a few who race 'em,
Jack Lawrence in NY has improved to close to 170 HP… heh…
Lester
… and this from MR DKW… Pffft… :wink:


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In reply to a message from Wiggles sent Wed 17 Mar 2010:

Bienvenido a los Estados Unidos!

:wink:

Lester–
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Wonder what ‘‘English’’ will be in the year 2525?
Ok. I’m thru, now.

:slight_smile:
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saabguy wrote:

In reply to a message from Wiggles sent Wed 17 Mar 2010:

Hey now… 65 HP will move 1800 pounds around smartly and with
front wheel drive those things stick to the road.

And I remember 59 HP would move a 512 pound bike and 185 pound rider
very smartly! When I bought my first Honda CB-750 back in 1969, I
remarked that it had two less wheels and 3 more HP than the current VW
“bug.” That always made me smile. :wink:

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In reply to a message from saabguy sent Wed 17 Mar 2010:

A-yep…which don’t understeer…LOL!!!

Dad had a DKW Mitter motor (I just LOVE saying that, Mitter
motor…) that was a ‘leftover’ from his Formula Jr. days, that
would put out an honest, uncorrected-to-sea-level 100 HP. We put it
in a Deek Sonderklasse sedan…and Dad would take GREAT delight in
pulling up next to almost any ‘‘zoomie’’ sports car of the period
(late 60s) with this bumbling, burbling DKW…then disappear over
the horizon.

Wish I had that engine for my SP!–
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… and this from MR DKW… Pffft… :wink:


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