Changing the oil with the original filter cannister and gaskets is a hassle.
Is there a good way to put the gasket on the receiver? I got two
different gaskets with the filter I bought, one thinner, one
larger…neither seem to fit into the groove in the receiver on the engine
that appears to be designed for it. Holding the gasket with one hand while
poking the opposite edges with a screwdriver seems to get it close, but it’s
not in the groove tightly and would easily fall out with the slightest
nudge. Last year I had the same problem and didn’t get the gasket in
right…squirted oil all over. How can you tell if you have it on correctly
without starting the car and looking for leaks? Maybe a screw on adapter is
the way to go but I like the vintage look of the original cannister. I just
don’t like the trouble. Are there any tips for making this go a little
better?
Regards,
Randy Olson
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Randy,
Assuming the '64 setup is like the '69…
The thinner gasket works for me, but it’s
a snug fit. What I do is get a small flat
screwdriver and press it home in 3 spots around
the edge, using the screwdriver turned so it’s
across the gasket. Then I work around the whole
gasket pressing it home. This is not a hard push, just
a press moves the gasket home. Then it doesn’t
move when I attach the oil filter canister. Never a
problem in 28 years!
Jerry
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Changing the oil with the original filter cannister and gaskets is a
hassle.----- Original Message -----
From: “randy olson” holtian143@hotmail.com
Is there a good way to put the gasket on the receiver?
Randy,
Don’t know whether you’re already doing this or not… so i will suggest:
Accessibility and visibility really help in this situation. I always remove
the air filter cannister when replacing the oil filter. And if I’m feeling
really in the mood, I will also remove the bottom rock panel as well as the
rock panel inside the fender. After that, you can practically replace the
oil filter cannister with your teeth 
Good luck,
John McLaren 69 ots
At 10:07 PM 5/28/02 -0400, you wrote:>Changing the oil with the original filter cannister and gaskets is a hassle.
Is there a good way to put the gasket on the receiver? I got two
different gaskets with the filter I bought, one thinner, one
larger…neither seem to fit into the groove in the receiver on the engine
that appears to be designed for it. Holding the gasket with one hand while
poking the opposite edges with a screwdriver seems to get it close, but it’s
not in the groove tightly and would easily fall out with the slightest
nudge. Last year I had the same problem and didn’t get the gasket in
right…squirted oil all over. How can you tell if you have it on correctly
without starting the car and looking for leaks? Maybe a screw on adapter is
the way to go but I like the vintage look of the original cannister. I just
don’t like the trouble. Are there any tips for making this go a little
better?
Regards,
Randy Olson
1969 2+2
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Guess what, the screw on uses the same exact gasket. What’s worse, if it
starts to leak you have to buy an original style filter to get the gasket,
and throw the element in the trash then buy the screw in element. ;^( I
don’t recall it being a huge chore to get the gasket seated though. It sits
nicely in the little groove. Perhaps a drop or two of gasket cement just to
hold it place would help. Mine doesn’t seal perfectly, I still get a drop
or two or oil after every drive. No biggie.
Eric
Changing the oil with the original filter cannister and gaskets is a hassle.
Is there a good way to put the gasket on the receiver? I got two
different gaskets with the filter I bought, one thinner, one
larger…neither seem to fit into the groove in the receiver on the engine
that appears to be designed for it. Holding the gasket with one hand while
poking the opposite edges with a screwdriver seems to get it close, but it’s
not in the groove tightly and would easily fall out with the slightest
nudge. Last year I had the same problem and didn’t get the gasket in
right…squirted oil all over. How can you tell if you have it on correctly
without starting the car and looking for leaks? Maybe a screw on adapter is
the way to go but I like the vintage look of the original cannister. I just
don’t like the trouble. Are there any tips for making this go a little
better?
Regards,
Randy Olson
1969 2+2_________________________________________________________________
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Randy - I had the same frustrating experience and found dabbing the gasket
with a little grease helped hold it in place. I eventually switched to a
spin-on, though.
Sandy
65 OTS
nudge. Last year I had the same problem and didn’t get the gasket
in
right…squirted oil all over
Are you sure there are two stacked in there? My MGA has the same setup
and it is very common for someone to put one gasket on top of another
thinking the old one was gone. Oil leak city.
David Littlefield
'62 MGA MkII
'51 MGTD
'74 MG Midget vintage racer
'61 Jaguar E-Type OTS________________________________________________________________
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Lot’s of good ideas…thanks. I’ll try a few tonight and let you know what
happens. Since the gasket won’t go into the slot, maybe there IS another
one already in there! Or, maybe heating it up in hot water will soften it
enough to go into the slot. Or, maybe a little grease will hold it in
place. I also thought of using silicone and fastening it to the canister
first, then putting it on…not that desperate yet. There’s two gaskets in
the filters which I’ve installed and I’m not sure which one is correct, thin
or wider. More later.
Randy
1969 E-Type 2+2_________________________________________________________________
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Randy
I sympathize with your problem and I removed the oil filter housing, purchased a
spin-on filter adapter and new gaskets. Now all I have to do is unscrew the old
filter and install a new one without worrying about gaskets. It was well worth
the money to do the conversion.
Len W
68 OTS
randy olson wrote:> Changing the oil with the original filter cannister and gaskets is a hassle.
Is there a good way to put the gasket on the receiver? I Randy Olson
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I purchased a WIX filter (51183) for my oil change. The problem is
the thinner gasket that came with is too thick 2.3mm vs the one the
PO gave me at 1.89 mm. I can probably fiddle with and make it work
but…
Anyone experience this as well?
Thank you.–
Mark 69 E SII OTS
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In reply to a message from Boffi sent Mon 28 Oct 2013:
Mark
The WIX 51183 is used on various engines, including the Perkins 4-
236 marine. It is possible that WIX doesn’t supply all the gaskets
for all the applications that filter fits. My suggestion is to get
your filters from a Jag vendor that will have the correct size
gasket included, or buy the gaskets separately from one of the
usual suppliers. If it’s too big or small, you may have a leak. No
harm other than the spot in you driveway/garage.
Joel–
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Denison, TX, United States
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In reply to a message from Boffi sent Mon 28 Oct 2013:
Mark, The filter you are looking for is a NAPA GOLD 1183, available
from Napa Stores. It comes with two sealing rings one thick the
other thinner, I use the thin one with success. best regards,
Brian Ser 2 FHC–
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I purchased a WIX filter (51183) for my oil change. The problem is
the thinner gasket that came with is too thick 2.3mm vs the one the
–
mytype
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Mark
According to Brian, you got jipped one gasket. The NAPA GOLD 1183
is made by WIX (51183), and is the same filter. Take it back and
explain it’s missing one of the gaskets.
Joel–
The original message included these comments:
Mark, The filter you are looking for is a NAPA GOLD 1183, available
from Napa Stores. It comes with two sealing rings one thick the
other thinner, I use the thin one with success. best regards,
Brian Ser 2 FHC
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Well, my WIX filter did come with two gaskets and the thinner one
is too tight to fit.
Thanks–
Mark 69 E SII OTS
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In reply to a message from Boffi sent Tue 29 Oct 2013:
I’ve used the NAPA 1183 with the thin gasket and it works fine.
Cheers, Bill–
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Well, my WIX filter did come with two gaskets and the thinner one
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In reply to a message from Boffi sent Mon 28 Oct 2013:
Hi Mark
just corrected this exact issue this week,(symptom was oil
leaking when cold on start up and would stop when warm)(we
had updated to spin on filter) wrong one of two gaskets (Sq
Orings Actually) was used (by a specialist)!!! which will
not compress inside the angled gasket groove, also we had to
clean up some buurs on this groove, just make sure you
remove any debris if any! before reassembly, and a light oil
film helps when tightening,now thats my first reply to Forum
as I am usually asking the questions… !
Ken
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Ontario, Canada
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An old topic but I used some silicone based gasket maker to hold the gasket in place and serve as an additional gasket. Did work well on the XJ filter before even without any gasket.
Is that photo some sort of optical illusion?
Believe the V12 canister is oval?
Glenn
Nono - don’t worry and contact your optician. Did work well also on the round XJ engine and now on the OVAL XKE filter assembly as well.