John, they come up from time to time on eBay. I bought one for small $ there.
Larry----- Original Message ----
From: John Walker jwalker1179@att.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Thu, May 3, 2012 7:50:26 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Oil Filter Housing - S3 XJ6
In reply to a message from golfnut324 sent Thu 3 May 2012:
Motorcars Ltd in Houston used to carry lots of XJ6 salvage parts.
Craig,
No, at least that’s not the one I used, it is a later model. You need the XJ S1
3 filter head. They come in two types, one has the oil cooler hose inlet &
outlet blocked off and on the other model they are left open. I used the one
with the blocked off oil cooler outlets, as I am not running an oil cooler.
Hooking up the OP relief line to the sump fitting is the only problem and that
has been addressed in the Archives.
Larry----- Original Message ----
From: golfnut324 caggilbert@gmail.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Thu, May 3, 2012 9:36:01 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Oil Filter Housing - S3 XJ6
In reply to a message from Larry Kohler sent Thu 3 May 2012:
Is this the correct part? Does this housing have the cooler
bypass already?
In reply to a message from Robert Wilkinson sent Thu 3 May 2012:
Yp, that was going to be my suggestion.
Cold, sinusitis. hay fever or whatever. Keeping me in today.
I can see the irritants floating in the air out there. daughter
brought me a bottle of what she thought was tomatoe juice. Naah, it
seem to be vegetable juice. probably a V8 knockoff. Kinda bland.
so, I spiked it with salt pepper and tabasco. Ooops, bit heav on
the Tabasco, but much better. I guess if Ispiked it with vodka, I’d
have a bloody mary. No, I don’t think I will. Benedry helps, but, I
nod off!!
Carl–
The original message included these comments:
A great source for used XJ parts is David Boger. He is a
great source for parts as well as advice. Ask anyone on the
XJ list.
–
Carl Hutchins 1983 Jaguar XJ6 with LT1 and 1994 Jeep Grand
Walnut Creek, California, United States
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In reply to a message from golfnut324 sent Thu 3 May 2012:
I’ve written about this on the XJ list; I’ll summarize here:
There are spin-on filter blocks without cooler ports on
some XJs. If you have the ports, fit an o-ring or round
piece of gasket material, followed by a 3/4 inch copper
water pipe cap (the kind that solders on) in each port. The
top of the cap forms a perfect seal, and the clamp designed
to clamp in the hoses will clamp in the two pipe caps
perfectly. Note that you should remove the bypass valve
within the filter block to allow for full flow of oil with
the oil cooler blocked. Otherwise, the oil pressure rises
due to the blocked cooler, opening the bypass valve, but the
open valve still restricts flow compared to removing it
entirely.
This is done easiest by modifying the pipe in the pan to
match in diameter and aim in the right direction to mate,
via a hose, to the overflow pipe in the XJ block. Don’t
kink the hose.
On most of the XJ filter blocks, there is a threaded hole
at the top designed to supply feeds to the cams. If you
keep your existing feed from the exhaust side, an adapter
can be fit for the gauge sender. I have no idea if this
interferes with anything on the E, as I did it on an S1 XJ6.
You can also (if room) use one of the plugs opposite the
bearings–Jag provides an adapter, standard on S1 XJ6 (which
had a canister oil filter originally).
You must use a gasket that matches precisely the block
you will use, NOT the original gasket. All of the passages
within the block depend on the proper gasket for sealing.–
The original message included these comments:
Exactly how to block off the oil cooler ports.
How to modify the oil bypass port to send to the oil pan.
Is the oil pressure sender port the same size and thread?
Any gasket issues or just the standard e-type gasket?
–
Bob Wilkinson, 73 XJ6
Saint Louis, MO, United States
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In reply to a message from golfnut324 sent Thu 3 May 2012:
You don’t block them off you connect them. Two ways. There is
a factory made loop of metal that connects the two ports. and
there is an internal part that can be removed. You can then block
off the ports. I did the later and used the factory pipes the went
to the oil cooler. I simply cut them to about 3 inches long and
squeezed the ends shut and brazed them completely shut.
I reconfigured the fitting on the pan to point to about the 10
o’clock position and ran a longer piece of hose from the filter
head to the pan.
Can’t recall.
Get in touch with SNG Barrett, they will ensure you get the
right gasket. Just tell them what you are trying to do.–
The original message included these comments:
Exactly how to block off the oil cooler ports.
How to modify the oil bypass port to send to the oil pan.
Is the oil pressure sender port the same size and thread?
Any gasket issues or just the standard e-type gasket?
–
John Walker, No E-Type at present
La Porte, Tex, United States
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In reply to a message from John Walker sent Thu 3 May 2012:
There are many configs of oil filter head and Paen gasket sets come
with 3-4 gaskets, sometimes more. You must have the gasket that
precisely lines up with the ports/chambers of the filter head.
Sadly, the horseshoe-shaped oil cooler bypass casting shown on the
AJ6 filter block linked earlier does not fit the XK filter head. I
think Mk2s used somethnig that looks very similar but does fit.
PResumably plenty of XJs used it too but am never sure which and in
the UK many heads are blanked off anyhow. You can just use the
existing fittings and loop some hose between them if you don’t want
to run a cooler. The line carries high pressure so hydraulic
fastenings are best.
If buying the filter lblcok you may as well buy the cam feed line.
Converting the rearwards horizontal bypass outlet to match the
vertical lower sump connection can be done with soft or hard pipe
but also needs care. Very worth while mod though IMHO and I run it
on the OTS. Cheap too, which never hurts…–
The original message included these comments:
You don’t block them off you connect them. Two ways. There is
a factory made loop of metal that connects the two ports. and
there is an internal part that can be removed. You can then block
–
1E75339 66 D, 1E33100 66 FHC, 1R7977 69 OTS, 1R9720 69OTS
Cambridge, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from John7 sent Thu 3 May 2012:
I’ve only had experience buying the right gasket from SNG. I’m not
saying SNG is the only game in town; I’m simply relating what I did.–
The original message included these comments:
Why not Coventey West and our own pres, Dick Maury?
–
John Walker, No E-Type at present
La Porte, Tex, United States
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In reply to a message from John Walker sent Thu 3 May 2012:
Ok, thanks to the help that you all have provided here, I’m
close to understanding how to pull off the conversion to the
XJ6 spin on filter block and I have a good source. Just one
more question: Can someone confirm that the port in the
filter housing for the cam oil feed can be used for the
pressure sending unit? Actually, I’m planning on converting
to a mechanical 0-100 psi gauge while I’m at it but I’m not
sure which port to use.
Thanks!–
Craig Gilbert - 1968 E-Type FHC
Birmingham, AL, United States
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In reply to a message from golfnut324 sent Sat 5 May 2012:
Yes, any port in a storm…
If you stick with your existing downstream cam oiler you can use
the filter block port for your gauge take-off. Be very careful to
protect the pipe where it goes through the body (use a grommet) and
where it sits between the instrument wiring. I had a nylon pipe
melt against an overheating wiring connection and leak loads of oil
inside the passenger compartment into the felt and footwells. It
lost a couple of pints without seemingly affecting the reading
before anything seeped through the plastic-backed carpet from
behind. I thought that was taking rustproofing a little too
far…
I replaced it with a copper capillary tube (and fixed the
connection) but slipped vinyly washer tubing over the copper so it
couldn’t short anything when moving the instrument console up and
down.
Pete–
The original message included these comments:
more question: Can someone confirm that the port in the
filter housing for the cam oil feed can be used for the
pressure sending unit? Actually, I’m planning on converting
to a mechanical 0-100 psi gauge while I’m at it but I’m not
sure which port to use.
–
1E75339 66 D, 1E33100 66 FHC, 1R7977 69 OTS, 1R9720 69OTS
Cambridge, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from PeterCrespin sent Sat 5 May 2012:
Thanks for confirming that Pete. And yes, running an oil
line back there does concern me but, based on other’s
success on this forum, I’m planning on using a braided
stainless line after wrapping it in shrink wrap to insulate.
By the way, I stumbled across a comment somewhere (but can’t
find it now) that recommended using some kind of ‘‘isolator’’
in the line prior to crossing the bulkhead. If fluid flow
was sensed, the isolator valve would close and stop the
flow. Makes sense that something like that might exist. Does
anyone have any knowledge of that?–
The original message included these comments:
Yes, any port in a storm…
If you stick with your existing downstream cam oiler you can use
the filter block port for your gauge take-off. Be very careful to
protect the pipe where it goes through the body (use a grommet) and
where it sits between the instrument wiring. I had a nylon pipe
–
Craig Gilbert - 1968 E-Type FHC
Birmingham, AL, United States
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In reply to a message from golfnut324 sent Thu 3 May 2012:
After reading through all this schtuff about adapting the XJ6
components, why go through all the bother? I found it much easier
just to get a spin-on filter adapter specifically designed for the
E-Type (about $95) - it arrives via UPS, takes about 30 min to
install, and away you go. I got mine from:
http://www.coolcatcorp.com–
The original message included these comments:
Spin-on oil filter adapter or S3 XJ6 oil filter housing?
–
Mike - Ol’ Gurrl ('66 E-type OTS) & New ('08 S 4.2)
Aiken, SC, United States
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In reply to a message from Mike Gregory sent Sun 6 May 2012:
Hi Mike,
I have wrestled with both options and even the third of just
keeping the original cannister. I’m still not 100% on the XJ
filter housing conversion but here are my thoughts:
Coolcat is currently out of the spin on adapter I need.
There’s is no red hot hurry though. They do apparently
provide a high quality adapter but it has been recommended
that the filter housing be removed from the engine block for
the purpose of fitting the adapter anyway.
The spin on adapter still has a ring gasket that needs to
be fitted between the adapter and the existing filter
housing. This basically introduces the same problem I’ve
been having with the ring gasket and the cannister I now
have. Seems that over the last 20 years or so those ring
gaskets and the groove they fit in have gotten a lot smaller
and harder for me to see! I’ve also had to re-tighten the
cannister against the ring gasket after initially installing
due to leaks. I guess the heating/cooling cycles cause the
pressure against the gasket to lesson?
Anyway, cost difference should be negligible. Time and
effort might be a little more than with the adapter but I
won’t have to ever worry about that ring gasket again.
Just my thoughts.
Thanks again to everyone for helping me with this!–
The original message included these comments:
After reading through all this schtuff about adapting the XJ6
components, why go through all the bother? I found it much easier
just to get a spin-on filter adapter specifically designed for the
E-Type (about $95) - it arrives via UPS, takes about 30 min to
install, and away you go. I got mine from: http://www.coolcatcorp.com
–
Craig Gilbert - 1968 E-Type FHC
Birmingham, AL, United States
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