Gentlemen,
I had posted that, ‘‘when I selected HIGH BEAM that my Rt.
light seemed to go lower even then my low beams.’’ Went to purchase
two new 7’’ sealed beams with low glare. NAPA Joe took the time to
make sure the bulbs I purchased were ok for my ‘68 Series 1.5 and
they were. Then he told me that Euro and UK beams on the Right
side did dip low because they drive to our(USA) right. In trying
not to blind people in the UK, this Rt. lamp does dip lower and to
the left when on high beam. How is this accomplished with a
standard 7’’ sealed beam??
Perhaps cars exported to the USA retained this change(or
Normalcy in the UK).
I figured the bulb was faulty, and did notice that all the numbers
of both lights did align up so that the Rt. light was NOT put in
upside down. Also, I doubt that no one has butchered the wires.
Found an interesting article on all this in ‘‘Wikipedia–head
lights dipping on high beam’’
This just really amazing to this USA driver. One problem–on
a desserted road, at nite and deer around, I am used to haveing two
strong beams lighting my way and spraying beam somewhat to the
sides to check for deer.
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Bob–
ValkyrieKid: '68 Series 1.5 (2+2)
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Let me make sure I understand this…btw, my '68 S1.5 has two
pretty much straight ahead lights when on high beam, but
anyway…you’re saying that when on high beam, the RH light is
actually lower than on low beam???On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:10 PM, ValkyrieKid docbob48@gmail.com wrote:
Gentlemen,
I had posted that, ‘‘when I selected HIGH BEAM that my Rt.
light seemed to go lower even then my low beams.’’ Went to purchase
two new 7’’ sealed beams with low glare. NAPA Joe took the time to
make sure the bulbs I purchased were ok for my ‘68 Series 1.5 and
they were. Then he told me that Euro and UK beams on the Right
side did dip low because they drive to our(USA) right. In trying
not to blind people in the UK, this Rt. lamp does dip lower and to
the left when on high beam. How is this accomplished with a
standard 7’’ sealed beam??
Perhaps cars exported to the USA retained this change(or
Normalcy in the UK).
I figured the bulb was faulty, and did notice that all the numbers
of both lights did align up so that the Rt. light was NOT put in
upside down. Also, I doubt that no one has butchered the wires.
Found an interesting article on all this in ‘‘Wikipedia–head
lights dipping on high beam’’
This just really amazing to this USA driver. One problem–on
a desserted road, at nite and deer around, I am used to haveing two
strong beams lighting my way and spraying beam somewhat to the
sides to check for deer.
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Bob
ValkyrieKid: '68 Series 1.5 (2+2)
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In reply to a message from ValkyrieKid sent Sun 21 Nov 2010:
No - the LHD and RHD headlights have different part numbers
and are market specific. You may have somehow got a RHD
headlight in there but it is pretty easy to spot the
difference from the lens. RHD cars have the lens on the
right side of the headlamp (from the front of the car)
whilst LHD have it on the left.
David–
The original message included these comments:
Perhaps cars exported to the USA retained this change(or
Normalcy in the UK).
–
David Jones, S1 OTS
Nottingham, United Kingdom
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Hmmm,
My bet is the beam and bulb bought from NAPA in USA are correct for USA,
there is no difference in the mounting hardware in the light mounting area
between LH and RH drive cars. The likely problem is the wires joined to the
three pins at back of socket the bulb plugs into have high and low beams
crossed over, or worse the earth return swapped with a beam wire so one
switch position has a single filament lit and the other switch position
causes both filaments to light at the same time :-)). Look at colours of
wires going to the back of the light socket for the light that works
correctly and connect them in the same pattern as on the good one. Next on
a dark night park on a flat surface in front of a wall a few yards away and
use a screwdriver to adjust light pattern on the wall to your liking with
the sprung adjuster screws (licensing test centres here have freebie paper
diagrams as to how to set up the beams - height of centre spot in relation
to height of light itself above ground and any angle for dipped beams, to
left here, to right in USA so as to not dazzle oncoming plus see the road
edge line clearly). Since I get the digest rather than go on the forum
direct someone else has probably already posted the same answer in which
case toss mine in the bin.
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Bob,
Glad you got the dip sw. fixed High beams should not be pointing
left or right but level and straight down the road… You’re not
supposed to be using them with on coming cars so any form of angle is
not necessary, unintended and defeats the purpose. Also makes it hard
to see deer. In the UK on low beam the lamps dip down and to the left
to avoid oncoming cars on the right. Just the reverse here in the US.
What you might do is take your unmolested daily driver at night, 20
ft from your garage door and look at what they do on low and high beam
to see what proper operation should be. Another option swap your
headlamps. Both lamps should be identical and behave identically (dip
down and to the right in concert and equally on low). Since you have
confirmed that the numbers and other moulded in information on the
bulb are aligned with the other bulb when installed, if they behave
differently there is a wiring problem in the bonnet somewhere. They
have to behave the same as they are supposed to be the same bulb and
are interchangeable.
As for how they move the beam around there are two filaments in the
bulb, their position within the reflector is different which moves
where the light is reflected. If you look closely you will see the
two filaments in the bulb.
pauls 67ots
Gentlemen,
I had posted that, ‘‘when I selected HIGH BEAM that my Rt.
light seemed to go lower even then my low beams.’’ Went to purchase
two new 7’’ sealed beams with low glare. NAPA Joe took the time to
make sure the bulbs I purchased were ok for my ‘68 Series 1.5 and
they were. Then he told me that Euro and UK beams on the Right
side did dip low because they drive to our(USA) right. In trying
not to blind people in the UK, this Rt. lamp does dip lower and to
the left when on high beam. How is this accomplished with a
standard 7’’ sealed beam??
Perhaps cars exported to the USA retained this change(or
Normalcy in the UK).
I figured the bulb was faulty, and did notice that all the numbers
of both lights did align up so that the Rt. light was NOT put in
upside down. Also, I doubt that no one has butchered the wires.
Found an interesting article on all this in ‘‘Wikipedia–head
lights dipping on high beam’’
This just really amazing to this USA driver. One problem–on
a desserted road, at nite and deer around, I am used to haveing two
strong beams lighting my way and spraying beam somewhat to the
sides to check for deer.
Hope this helps.
<<<<<<<<<<<From: “ValkyrieKid” docbob48@gmail.com
Subject: [E-Type] On high beam, Rt. beam dips low and may be stock normal.
In reply to a message from Les Halls sent Sun 21 Nov 2010:
Gentlemen,
As I sit in front of my white garage doors after dusk, the low
beams hit the exact same panels. When I switch UP to high beam,
the left light goes upward and the rt. beam goes lower on the panel
than did the low beams. Go figure!!
Will inspect both attachments to the 3 prong light beams, and see
if the wires are the same.
Thankx,
Bob–
The original message included these comments:
actually lower than on low beam???
–
ValkyrieKid: '68 Series 1.5 (2+2)
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In reply to a message from ValkyrieKid sent Sun 21 Nov 2010:
Gentlemen,
Thankx for all the replies. I will be looking at both of the
colors on the back of the three-prong plugs to make sure they are
the same and will doubly clean all and re-apply.
Will re-post after I tackle this.
Sincerely,
Bob–
The original message included these comments:
two new 7’’ sealed beams with low glare. NAPA Joe took the time to
–
ValkyrieKid: '68 Series 1.5 (2+2)
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Bob…
My left headlight came fromthe factory with the ground wire and low beam switched (color codes reversed) on the 3-wire headlight socket. Drove me nuts for a while.
LLoyd
Wherever space and time interact, there is information, and wherever information can be ordered into knowledge, and knowledge can be applied, there is intelligence.
Pavel Mirsky, mid 21st Century Russian General----- Original Message -----
From: “ValkyrieKid” docbob48@gmail.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:27:59 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] On high beam, Rt. beam dips low and may be stock normal.
In reply to a message from ValkyrieKid sent Sun 21 Nov 2010:
Gentlemen,
Thankx for all the replies. I will be looking at both of the
colors on the back of the three-prong plugs to make sure they are
the same and will doubly clean all and re-apply.
Will re-post after I tackle this.
That only means your wires are reversed on one headlilght. StuPH happens.
LLoyd
Wherever space and time interact, there is information, and wherever information can be ordered into knowledge, and knowledge can be applied, there is intelligence.
Pavel Mirsky, mid 21st Century Russian General----- Original Message -----
From: “ValkyrieKid” docbob48@gmail.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:19:59 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] On high beam, Rt. beam dips low and may be stock normal.
In reply to a message from Les Halls sent Sun 21 Nov 2010:
Gentlemen,
As I sit in front of my white garage doors after dusk, the low
beams hit the exact same panels. When I switch UP to high beam,
the left light goes upward and the rt. beam goes lower on the panel
than did the low beams. Go figure!!
Will inspect both attachments to the 3 prong light beams, and see
if the wires are the same.
Thankx,
Bob
The original message included these comments:
actually lower than on low beam???
–
ValkyrieKid: '68 Series 1.5 (2+2)
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Here’s what I think you have…when you have the dipper switch in
low beam, the RH beam is actually on high…when you switch it goto
low…you have the dipper switch miswired.On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:19 PM, ValkyrieKid docbob48@gmail.com wrote:
In reply to a message from Les Halls sent Sun 21 Nov 2010:
Gentlemen,
As I sit in front of my white garage doors after dusk, the low
beams hit the exact same panels. When I switch UP to high beam,
the left light goes upward and the rt. beam goes lower on the panel
than did the low beams. Go figure!!
Will inspect both attachments to the 3 prong light beams, and see
if the wires are the same.
Thankx,
Bob
The original message included these comments:
actually lower than on low beam???
–
ValkyrieKid: '68 Series 1.5 (2+2)
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Bob, you need to fix that Just for grins make sure the
orientation of the 3 prong connector is the same on both lamps. If
the wires going into the connector are the same color on both lamps,
they should be, then there is something miswired in the bonnet.
There are several connectors in there, one could easily have gotten
two wires swapped. At the lamp connector you should have a blue/white
(high beam) blue/red (low beam) and black (ground).
pauls 67ots
Gentlemen,
As I sit in front of my white garage doors after dusk, the low
beams hit the exact same panels. When I switch UP to high beam,
the left light goes upward and the rt. beam goes lower on the panel
than did the low beams. Go figure!!
Will inspect both attachments to the 3 prong light beams, and see
if the wires are the same.
Thankx,
Bob
<<<<<<<<<<From: “ValkyrieKid” docbob48@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [E-Type] On high beam, Rt. beam dips low and may be stock normal.
In reply to a message from paul spurlock sent Mon 22 Nov 2010:
Gentlemen,
Installed 2 new head lights, sealed beams, and same thing
happened. Noted the correct colors and position of the black
ground wire (thankx to Paul), and looked at the right 3-prong which
was round and ceramic looking with 3 black wires soldered into 3
blues wires with red stripe. I knew I had a ground ok as the lights
turned on. So I cut the wires to the hi & low beams and changed
them and wire nutted them and I had 2 high beams and 2 low beams.
Thank you Jag-Lovers for all the help. Will pick up a newer 3-
prong tomorrow, solder and heat shrink and re-install. Another job
finished to bring her back.
Hope you all had a great thanksgiving!!
Bob–
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orientation of the 3 prong connector is the same on both lamps. If
–
ValkyrieKid: '68 Series 1.5 (2+2)
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High beams should not be pointing