Anybody know how much torque to put on the wheel nut
spinners on a '62 E-Type with wire wheels?–
Petmof
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In reply to a message from Petmof sent Fri 7 Aug 2015:
220 lb/ft
David–
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Anybody know how much torque to put on the wheel nut
spinners on a '62 E-Type with wire wheels?
–
David Jones, S1 OTS
Nottingham, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from Petmof sent Fri 7 Aug 2015:
You can actually do them up hand tight and they tighten up
by themselves. That is a design feature of the Rudge
spline.(Assuming the hubs have been installed on the correct
sides.)
I have tried this and it does work…they tighten right up,
although most people will beat the spinners up pretty tight
to start with.–
Clive, '62 Coupe 860320
Ontario, Canada
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In reply to a message from Clive Wilkinson sent Fri 7 Aug 2015:
I was curious just how much they self-tighten so after
snugging them well with a 6# hammer, I made a set of marks
with a Sharpie on each hub & knock-off for later reference.
I was amazed how much they further tightened in just a
brief amount of driving. No wonder they can be very tough
to loosen later.–
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I have tried this and it does work…they tighten right up,
although most people will beat the spinners up pretty tight
to start with.
–
Geo Hahn 1969 OTS 4.2
Mt Lemmon, Arizona, United States
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In reply to a message from Geo H sent Fri 7 Aug 2015:
The clue is in the spinner shape. The ‘tightening’ face is
sloping and the real purchase is on the loosening side. It
makes sense to snug them up to cut down fretting while
they self-tighten, but beating them hard is unnecessary.–
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I was amazed how much they further tightened in just a
brief amount of driving. No wonder they can be very tough
to loosen later.
–
1E75339 66 D, 1R27190 70 FHC, 79 S2 XJ12L
Gaithersburg, Maryland, United States
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In reply to a message from PeterCrespin sent Sat 8 Aug 2015:
Unless they are repro spinners! Wrong size, shape, weight,
engraving and machining. Beggars belief that anyone can get them
so wrong. Spoke to Orson Engineering at Stoneleigh and their
response was ‘‘no one else has complained and they have been like
that for 20 years’’. I gave up!
David–
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they self-tighten, but beating them hard is unnecessary.
–
David Jones, S1 OTS
Nottingham, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from Clive Wilkinson sent Fri 7 Aug 2015:
Clive,
While they are self-tightening, they are wearing your
splines. After a while the splines will no longer support
self-tightening and will become dangerous. A friend drove
to my house and his spinners were very loose – the wheels
were clunking – after a long highway drive. Splines were
worn, had to be replaced. Well, that’s how they had got
that way. Tighten until the spinners won’t move, as Dayton
recommends, I do.
Jerry–
Jerry Mouton '64 FHC 889791 ‘MIK Jaguar’
Palo Alto, California, United States
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Sat 8 Aug 2015:
Jerry, I don’t tighten them that way of a matter of course,
I just tried it once to satisfy my curiosity after learning
about the Rudge spline.
I know about the sub-standard repro spinners and I’m lucky
to have been able to find a new OEM Jaguar set way back when
they were still available.
There are things worth knowing about incorrectly torqued
studded wheel fasteners too. Loose left side nuts will come
looser and the wheel will eventually come off. On right side
wheels, the nuts will tighten more and the studs will break off.–
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Clive,
While they are self-tightening, they are wearing your
splines. After a while the splines will no longer support
–
Clive, '62 Coupe 860320
Ontario, Canada
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Hi Clive,
Years ago I remember Chrysler using R & L hand wheel nuts.
Bob
889076
Plymouth, Mi.On Aug 8, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Clive Wilkinson clive.wilkinson@sympatico.ca wrote:
In reply to a message from mouton sent Sat 8 Aug 2015:
Jerry, I don’t tighten them that way of a matter of course,
I just tried it once to satisfy my curiosity after learning
about the Rudge spline.I know about the sub-standard repro spinners and I’m lucky
to have been able to find a new OEM Jaguar set way back when
they were still available.There are things worth knowing about incorrectly torqued
studded wheel fasteners too. Loose left side nuts will come
looser and the wheel will eventually come off. On right side
wheels, the nuts will tighten more and the studs will break off.The original message included these comments:
Clive,
While they are self-tightening, they are wearing your
splines. After a while the splines will no longer support–
Clive, '62 Coupe 860320
Ontario, Canada
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In reply to a message from Clive Wilkinson sent Sat 8 Aug 2015:
Clive,
Sorry, I shoulda known!
Jerry–
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Jerry, I don’t tighten them that way of a matter of course,
I just tried it once to satisfy my curiosity after learning
about the Rudge spline.
–
Jerry Mouton '64 FHC 889791 ‘MIK Jaguar’
Palo Alto, California, United States
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In reply to a message from Robert Stevenson sent Sat 8 Aug 2015:
Bob,
Good idea, maybe.
One time we were towing a grossly overloaded snowmobile
trailer full of old roof shingles to the dump, driving
slowly along the back roads.
On one right hand turn off, there was a loud bang, then a
grating noise and the left-hand trailer wheel came rolling
by. The four wheel nuts were all lying in the road in a neat
curve around the corner. We put it all back and continued a
bit slower.–
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Hi Clive,
Years ago I remember Chrysler using R & L hand wheel nuts.
Bob
889076
Plymouth, Mi.
–
Clive, '62 Coupe 860320
Ontario, Canada
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I did notice on my 69 that the older I get,
the tighter the knockoffs get-----Original Message-----
From: Geo H
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:24 PM
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] SERIES 1 WHEEL NUTS
In reply to a message from Clive Wilkinson sent Fri 7 Aug 2015:
I was curious just how much they self-tighten so after
snugging them well with a 6# hammer, I made a set of marks
with a Sharpie on each hub & knock-off for later reference.
I was amazed how much they further tightened in just a
brief amount of driving. No wonder they can be very tough
to loosen later.
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Yep, dad’s Buicks too. But that was back when Buicks were started by
pressing the gas pedal to the floor.
pauls
Hi Clive,
Years ago I remember Chrysler using R & L hand wheel nuts.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<From: Robert Stevenson bobanddarl@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [E-Type] SERIES 1 WHEEL NUTS
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In reply to a message from PeterCrespin sent Sat 8 Aug 2015:
I feel the need to chime in, here; whatever ‘‘tightness’’ you
feel is right or suggested by book or brother I HIGHLY
recommend a smear of some sort of grease (I use anti-seize
compound) especially in light of the purported self-tightening
prospect, on the thin face(s) (didn’t Rod Stewart play with
them?) where the spinner inner lip/seat meets the outermost lip
of the wheel or spalling can occur, readily. A lot of force in
a little space can shear away metal when undoing, when over-
tightened and then a vicious cycle occurs where the seats/lips
are marred reducing holding power and possibly (probably) more
problems. I tighten the spinners until all is ‘‘seated’’, by
hand, and then it does not take much more force to make them
secure such that said inner/outer ''lips have a matching slight
taper which adds to the holding power, as is. Not a lot of, or
more, force needed.
I am cheap and don’t like replacing these types of things
before their time, if I can help it. I don’t care how
inexpensive new spindles and spinners are.
My $.02
Huff–
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I was amazed how much they further tightened in just a
brief amount of driving. No wonder they can be very tough
to loosen later.
–
69 2+2 color- London Fog
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