[E-Type] Series I glove box

After removing my glove box the remnants of some sort of fuzz or
fuzzy fabric can be found around the unexposed edges.
Does anyone know what can be used to recondition the inside of the
box to it’s original condition?

My other thought is to make a plaster mold of the box and use the
mold to create a fiberglass replacement. If I take that approach I
will still need to replicate the fuzzy stuff that was on the
original.

Jim Howerton
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My other thought is to make a plaster mold of the box and use the
mold to create a fiberglass replacement. If I take that approach I
will still need to replicate the fuzzy stuff that was on the
original.

I’m wondering if that stuff is “Flocking”. If so, I would think that some sort of crafts or hobby shop like Michaels would have something.

My S2 is done the same way and the lid, which the S1 cars don’t have, is covered on the inside with some sort of velour cloth.

George Cohn
'70 OTS

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In reply to a message from JimHinSTL sent Mon 11 Oct 2004:

Jim,

No material involved, the box is ‘‘flocked’’. Some kind of
paint/glue is sprayed in and then fibers in the appropriate color
are shaken in and take hold on the surface. Kits are available to
re-do this.

Unless there are holes in the box, an approach to repair that works
well is to go to a boat supplies store (West Marine, etc.) and
buy ‘‘Get-Rot’’. This is a liquid resin that you mix up and then
paint onto the soft/flaky cardboard, encouraging it to soak in
deeply. In a few hours it hardens into plasitc/fiberglass like
board, making the box permanent, hard, and waterproof, all the
while looking exactly as before. I did this, and did not even have
to re-flock it (though some may call my patinated look ‘‘old and
worn’’.

Jerry–
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In reply to a message from JimHinSTL sent Mon 11 Oct 2004:

Replacement glove boxes that are already ‘‘flocked’’ are readily
available from the usuals. Check with SNG Barratt or Terry’s.

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In reply to a message from Richard Liggitt sent Mon 11 Oct 2004:

Thanks everyone. I figured that the usuals could supply the ready
to install glove box but am trying to do as much as possible
myself. The condition of my car will ensure that none of the usuals
goes out of business any time soon.

If I use the Get-Rot is sound like I can also re-attach the washers
on the bottom of the box that the split pins go through and skip
the whole fiberglass mess.

Am I mistaken or is the flocking somewhat of an easy wear item,
something I will find myself re-flocking with every few years?

Jim–
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Jim, I’m not sure why you would want to go to the
trouble to make a fiberglass glove box when repro
glove boxes with flocking are available for $50-60.
Larry

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In a message dated 10/11/04 8:54:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
howertnkuo@aol.com writes:

<<
Am I mistaken or is the flocking somewhat of an easy wear item,
something I will find myself re-flocking with every few years?

I put a new glove box in my car 3 years ago. The flocking is still nice, but
I am very careful what I put in it (gloves, my hand held rear view mirror,
spare toothpicks, e-brake lock, plastic garage door opener, etc.) . I would not
put anything hard or heavy in it and expect it to last.

Best, MIke Moore

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In a message dated 10/11/04 10:14:33 AM, owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org writes:

Subject: [E-Type] Series I glove box

After removing my glove box the remnants of some sort of fuzz or

fuzzy fabric can be found around the unexposed edges.

Does anyone know what can be used to recondition the inside of the

box to it’s original condition?

This is an easy one, fabric stores sell the exact product that you are
looking for. Ask for flocking.
It is applied by coating the box with a cement, blowing the fuzzy stuff onto
the cement and then baking in an oven for about an hour.

Looks just like the original.

Richard H. Kuschel

“I canna’ change the Law of Physics” -----Scotty

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In a message dated 10/11/04 10:14:33 AM, owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org writes:

hanks everyone. I figured that the usuals could supply the ready

to install glove box but am trying to do as much as possible

myself. The condition of my car will ensure that none of the usuals

goes out of business any time soon.

If I use the Get-Rot is sound like I can also re-attach the washers

on the bottom of the box that the split pins go through and skip

the whole fiberglass mess.

Am I mistaken or is the flocking somewhat of an easy wear item,

something I will find myself re-flocking with every few years?

Jim


Yes, you will need to replace the flocking every few years if you use the
glove box.

The “Get Rot” is basically a slow drying epoxy and slow dry epoxy(6 hour
stuff) will work as well.

I have used both on boats as well as wood parts of the Jaguar.

Richard H. Kuschel

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In reply to a message from RickPV8945@aol.com sent Mon 11 Oct 2004:

Don’t know the US ‘Get Rot’ product but it doesn’t sound like
epoxy, which would not soak too well into wood or cardboard. In the
UK there are ‘Wet Rot’ products which are basically polyurethane or
similar varnish dissolved in an acetone or alcohol-type vehicle.
You can make up similar mixtures yourself if there’s no local
stockist.

The idea is that the alcohol or acetone solvent will soak deep into
even soggy cardboard and when it dries off the material is left
with stiff/hard instead of soft and/or soggy.

Works well on the rotten wood it was designed for too!–
Peter Crespin 94 X300 Daimler / 66 2+2 ‘E’
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In reply to a message from JimHinSTL sent Mon 11 Oct 2004:

Jim,

Below a part of an email exchange I had with Jill at
www.donjer.com The kit is very inexpensive - cannot vouch
for quality as I just bought a new bit in the end. (no
affiliation usw, usw)

Hello,
I am currently restoring a 1962 Jaguar and am
contemplating reflocking the map tray and glove box,
regarding which I have two questions:

  1. Can I reflock an original flocked surface without
    stripping the original flocking off? In one case the
    backing is 1/8’’ thick paper, and in the other the backing
    is sheet metal.

If it is possible to remove the old flocking, this would
be best. It depends on how much of the old flocking is
still there. The contour of the surface will show
through, so, if it is an uneven surface, that is what you
will see. If you flock over the original surface you will
need to use extra adhesive because the surface will soak
up the first coat of adhesive - this may also leave a
crusty texture that visually looks fine.

  1. The map tray is flocked on the inside of a metal box
    about 16’‘x6’‘x2’’ therefore I would be spraying through an
    opening 16’‘x2’’ into a 6’’ deep space: Would this work with
    the air sprayer or would I need to split the welds on the
    box and disassemble it to obtain a flat surface to spray
    onto?

Ideally, you should use the air assisted spray gun if you
don’t want to have to split the welds. It has an outlet
nozzle that provides an even stream of the fibers that will
coat the inside nicely. BUT can you apply the adhesive
evenly in the pocket?

Andrew–
The original message included these comments:

mold to create a fiberglass replacement. If I take that approach I
will still need to replicate the fuzzy stuff that was on the


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Git Rot is amazing stuff. I used it to ‘repair’ the rotting floor of my
64 Airstream trailer. The floor 5/8" plywood. In the areas where there
was a fair amount of rot, you just mix the epoxy and apply until it
stops soaking in. For areas that are not so permeable (e.g rotted) I
drilled holes in about a 2" grid and then applied. The stuff sets up
like a std epoxy that you can then sand. I then bolted the repaired
plywood floor to the steel frame of the trailer. That was about 4 years
ago and those repairs (approx 1/4 of the floor of my 19ft trailer) are
holding perfectly. I swear by the stuff.

WestMarine also has a GitRot knockoff product that works as well.

leslie
(who’s 62 OTS is actually coming along and may be drivable by next
spring!!!)

Peter Crespin wrote:

In reply to a message from RickPV8945@aol.com sent Mon 11 Oct 2004:

Don’t know the US ‘Get Rot’ product but it doesn’t sound like
epoxy, which would not soak too well into wood or cardboard. In the
UK there are ‘Wet Rot’ products which are basically polyurethane or
similar varnish dissolved in an acetone or alcohol-type vehicle.
You can make up similar mixtures yourself if there’s no local
stockist.

The idea is that the alcohol or acetone solvent will soak deep into
even soggy cardboard and when it dries off the material is left
with stiff/hard instead of soft and/or soggy.

Works well on the rotten wood it was designed for too!

Peter Crespin 94 X300 Daimler / 66 2+2 ‘E’
Buxton, United Kingdom
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I must be lucky–I have not had to “flock” or “re-flock” in 7 years of
putting anything that will fit in my glove box. My only challenge re. the
glove box was getting the front lower edge rivited to the dash.
tom

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From: RickPV8945@aol.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Date: 10/11/04 5:46:00 PM
Subject: Re:[E-Type] Series I glove box

In a message dated 10/11/04 10:14:33 AM, owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org
writes:

hanks everyone. I figured that the usuals could supply the ready

to install glove box but am trying to do as much as possible

myself. The condition of my car will ensure that none of the usuals

goes out of business any time soon.

If I use the Get-Rot is sound like I can also re-attach the washers

on the bottom of the box that the split pins go through and skip

the whole fiberglass mess.

Am I mistaken or is the flocking somewhat of an easy wear item,

something I will find myself re-flocking with every few years?

Jim


Yes, you will need to replace the flocking every few years if you use the
glove box.

The “Get Rot” is basically a slow drying epoxy and slow dry epoxy(6 hour
stuff) will work as well.

I have used both on boats as well as wood parts of the Jaguar.

Richard H. Kuschel

“I canna’ change the Law of Physics” -----Scotty

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In reply to a message from tom felts sent Tue 12 Oct 2004:

Could we say that whereas the others all have the same flocking 

problems you only have riveting challenges?

Andrew–
The original message included these comments:

I must be lucky–I have not had to ‘‘flock’’ or ‘‘re-flock’’ in 7 years of
putting anything that will fit in my glove box. My only challenge re. the
glove box was getting the front lower edge rivited to the dash.


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In reply to a message from tom felts sent Tue 12 Oct 2004:

Could we say that whereas the others all have the same flocking 

problems you only have riveting challenges?

LOL! Reminds me of the movie “Johnnie Dangerously”. I watched a half hour of it before I realized they were saying “Farging Iceholes”! :wink:

George Cohn
'70 OTS with no Flocking problems…

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In reply to a message from tom felts sent Tue 12 Oct 2004:

Tom,

There are 1/16’’ thick wood blocks that fit between the bottom metal
frame of the dash and the front of the glove box. The glove box is
then held at that point by split rivets. I use common nails through
the front holes to keep the alignment when the glove box is secured
at the top and side. It makes getting the split rivets easier to
get in later.

Richard Liggitt–
The original message included these comments:

I must be lucky–I have not had to ‘‘flock’’ or ‘‘re-flock’’ in 7 years of
putting anything that will fit in my glove box. My only challenge re. the
glove box was getting the front lower edge rivited to the dash.
tom


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My challenges are all riveting!!:slight_smile:

[Original Message]
From: Andrew Waugh andrew.waugh@bluewin.ch
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Date: 10/12/04 3:22:28 PM
Subject: Re:[E-Type] Series I glove box

In reply to a message from tom felts sent Tue 12 Oct 2004:

Could we say that whereas the others all have the same flocking 

problems you only have riveting challenges?

Andrew

The original message included these comments:

I must be lucky–I have not had to ‘‘flock’’ or ‘‘re-flock’’ in 7 years
of

putting anything that will fit in my glove box. My only challenge re.
the

glove box was getting the front lower edge rivited to the dash.


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