I am considering replacing my stock steering rack mounts with solid
billet mounts from CJ. Any comments. Pros and cons.
Thanks Mark–
Mark 1966 E Type Coupe
Lake Sherwood California, United States
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In reply to a message from 1E31446 sent Thu 19 Jan 2006:
Mark,
What are you hoping to gain from that, other than a
little ‘‘bling’’ under the ol’ bonnet?–
Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
Santa Cruz, CA, United States
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In reply to a message from 1E31446 sent Thu 19 Jan 2006:
Mark, unless you’re racing the car, the stock, good-condition
mounts are quite up to the task. The solid ones just won’t buy you
anything much in the way of increased steering response, but WILL
gain you a harsher feel thru the wheel.–
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I am considering replacing my stock steering rack mounts with solid
billet mounts from CJ. Any comments. Pros and cons.
–
Paul Wigton, '60 DKW 1000SP, '55 DKW Sonderklasse, Tweety!
Keenesburg, CO, United States
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In reply to a message from 1E31446 sent Thu 19 Jan 2006:
Mark
Polyurethane mounts are available which might be a sensible mid
point between standard and solid.
A certain well know supplier US supplier told me that their solid
mounts were fine for the street. All I can say is that you must
have much better roads over there than we have in England.
Andy–
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Goring on Thames, United Kingdom
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Hi Everyone. I am persistently getting my 69 OTS ready for the road
again. I am going to be putting in new upper/lower Ball Joints,
outer Tie Rods/boots and noticed that the Rack Mounts are a lil
tired as well, so, time to replace. There appears to have been
quite a lot of discussion regarding rack mounts over the last
several years. My 69 is manual not power steering. Has there ever
been a definitive answer as to which Rack Mount to use. The Jag
Dealer I use has both OEM and an aftermarket available. I noticed
that there appear to be others available as well. I use the car as
a road car, not a Salom Event car.–
69EMan
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In reply to a message from 69EMan sent Sun 30 Oct 2011:
I recently changed from the standard mount to the polybush. I
prefer the more positive steering and don’t notice any difference
in harshness. HTH.–
65 OTS 1E11497
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In reply to a message from Angus Moss sent Sun 30 Oct 2011:
Same here- recently installed the ‘‘mid-range’’ in stiffness, parts
via SNGB, and it is amazing how much ‘‘slop’’ went away, yet no harsh
feel, so to say. Huff–
69 2+2 color- London Fog
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In reply to a message from 69EMan sent Sun 30 Oct 2011:
Hi ?
I have tried non oem, oem (or what passes for it today), solid
and polybush.
Polybush is my choice for street use.
Regards
Pat–
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In reply to a message from 69EMan sent Sun 30 Oct 2011:
When my rack mounts started to de-bond, I welded a strip of steel
at each edge and made them solid. I never did like the mushiness
the originals allowed, but I’ve been happy with the solid metal
mounts for the last 15 or more years they’ve been welded.–
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tired as well, so, time to replace. There appears to have been
quite a lot of discussion regarding rack mounts over the last
several years. My 69 is manual not power steering. Has there ever
been a definitive answer as to which Rack Mount to use. The Jag
Dealer I use has both OEM and an aftermarket available. I noticed
that there appear to be others available as well. I use the car as
a road car, not a Salom Event car.
–
Pete Peterson 70E(193K) 88XJ40s(253K & 242K) 94XJ40 (122K)
Severna Park, Maryland, United States
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In reply to a message from 69EMan sent Sun 30 Oct 2011:
After only 5 years I had one OEM mount fully delaminate and
the other delaminate about 1/4 of the rubber/metal
interface.
So I replaced them with Ray Livingston’s solid mounts. They
fit perfectly. The steering is really crisp without any
increase in harshness. I think our high aspect ratio tires
do a pretty good job of absorbing the high frequency
vibrations that you might feel though the steering wheel.
The result is that the hardness of the mount can add feel
and crispness but won’t add harshness.
I’ve no idea if they are still available.
Larry–
Larry Wade 62 OTS, La Canada, California USA
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In reply to a message from Larry Wade sent Sun 30 Oct 2011:
Interesting: my experience, viz, harshness was exactly
opposite. Yea, it was crisp (think ‘turn left,’ and it
would!) but EVERY crack and imperfection in the road was
transmitted up to my hands. I put NOS Metalastiks in and
harshness all gone. Not at crisp, but entirely liveable.–
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So I replaced them with Ray Livingston’s solid mounts. They
fit perfectly. The steering is really crisp without any
The result is that the hardness of the mount can add feel
and crispness but won’t add harshness.
I’ve no idea if they are still available.
–
Paul Wigton, steward to a '60 DKW 1000 SP, Tweety, '63 FHC!
Keenesburg, CO, United States
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In reply to a message from Wiggles sent Sun 30 Oct 2011:
Exactly right! Nothing like retro engineering out the development
of a car. Then again some have limited exp. and a set of solid
mounts would be better than a poor set of proper mounts. That said
I will also say that it is rare some 50 years later to see a
completely bad set. Soft yes, but apart–no.–
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Interesting: my experience, viz, harshness was exactly
opposite. Yea, it was crisp (think ‘turn left,’ and it
would!) but EVERY crack and imperfection in the road was
transmitted up to my hands. I put NOS Metalastiks in and
harshness all gone. Not at crisp, but entirely liveable.
–
JCRC SE member JCNA Publications and Authenticity Desk
Columbia SC, United States
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In reply to a message from George Camp sent Mon 31 Oct 2011:
Are the OEM mounts actually available from the OEM, ie
Metalastik, now part of Trelleborg? Or some unknown repro
manufacturer?–
A Blackley http://www.xkedata.com/cars/detail/?car=1R41606
Chardon Ohio, United States
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Andy, My 2 cents worth is buy the upgraded mounts from one of the usual suspects
I have no affiliation with the usual suspect you may choose and do not have any
affiliation with any usual suspect other than as a customer. This post is not
my attempt to sell anything on behalf of myself or any affiliate of mine. I
make no representation or guaranty regarding the suitability for purpose of any
product you may choose to purchase from any usual suspect, other vendor, or
other business or seller in any form, shape or kind.
Larry----- Original Message ----
From: andy303 akblackley@roadrunner.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 1:52:22 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Steering Rack Mounts
In reply to a message from George Camp sent Mon 31 Oct 2011:
A Blackley http://www.xkedata.com/cars/detail/?car=1R41606
Chardon Ohio, United States
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In reply to a message from Larry Kohler sent Mon 31 Oct 2011:
And now, political (corporate??) correctness arrives fully,
at Jag-Lovers…>;-(
I think it’s time you get osterized, Larry…;)–
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my attempt to sell anything on behalf of myself or any affiliate of mine. I
make no representation or guaranty regarding the suitability for purpose of any
product you may choose to purchase from any usual suspect, other vendor, or
other business or seller in any form, shape or kind.
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Paul Wigton, steward to a '60 DKW 1000 SP, Tweety, '63 FHC!
Keenesburg, CO, United States
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Wiggles, You know very well that I am not politically correct (if you are not
Right, you are by definition wrong) and, most likely, not corporately correct
either :-). I think that it would be a good idea for each poster to include
language to that effect with every post in order that no list members panties
get in a bunch.
Larry----- Original Message ----
From: Wiggles vrooomie@gmail.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 2:19:48 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Steering Rack Mounts
In reply to a message from Larry Kohler sent Mon 31 Oct 2011:
And now, political (corporate??) correctness arrives fully,
at Jag-Lovers…>;-(
I think it’s time you get osterized, Larry…
–
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I have no affiliation with the usual suspect you may choose and do not have any
affiliation with any usual suspect other than as a customer. This post is not
my attempt to sell anything on behalf of myself or any affiliate of mine. I
make no representation or guaranty regarding the suitability for purpose of anyproduct you may choose to purchase from any usual suspect, other vendor, or
other business or seller in any form, shape or kind.
–
Paul Wigton, steward to a '60 DKW 1000 SP, Tweety, '63 FHC!
Keenesburg, CO, United States
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In reply to a message from 69EMan sent Sun 30 Oct 2011:
Restoring my Jag for many years now & have also upgraded to
polybush steering mounts. I originally put in OEM mounts but
remembering that the old ones ‘‘parted’’ and seeing the polybush in
the Barratt catalogue, changed over to these. Cannot yet give
a ‘‘drive’’ opinion but can make one suggestion & that is to ensure
you use the parts manual & the service manual & mount the rack
correctly. I found it incredibly complicated ensuring all bolts,
washers, nuts & spacers are correctly put together. Yes you can
mount it missing a few parts but again, highly recommend you follow
the manuals. I was amazed over how many small attachment parts were
missing.–
stephenc
winnipeg/manitoba, Canada
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In reply to a message from Larry Kohler sent Mon 31 Oct 2011:
‘‘I think that it would be a good idea for each poster to
include language to that effect with every post in order
that no list members panties get in a bunch.’’
Give the latest dust-up, re: Admins actions, I’m fearful you
may be correct.–
Paul Wigton, steward to a '60 DKW 1000 SP, Tweety, '63 FHC!
Keenesburg, CO, United States
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In reply to a message from George Camp sent Mon 31 Oct 2011:
Right with ya,George C. I have now had two sets of mounts (in 37
years), snd both were very satisfactory from a crispness and
feedbackpoint of view. I drive the heck out of this car at all
times.
If’n it ain’t broke…
I think Stephen has a point, how many good quality replacements
have been actually installed properly with all required parts
properly adjusted? With the ‘‘holder’’ bolts in place and done
right, I don’t think ‘‘separation’’ would be likely, or maybe even
possible.
Why not just leave it, well, an E Type?
Jerry–
Jerry Mouton '64 FHC 889791 ‘MIK Jaguar’
Palo Alto, California, United States
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In reply to a message from mouton sent Mon 31 Oct 2011:
Mine are OEM too, probably the second set, bought new from
Jaguar around 1976 and installed at that time. I think the
steering is just fine and there’s no de-lamination of the
rubber yet.
The only problem I had was with the original MOT test
mechanic back in England when I initially got the car
certified for the road. He failed the car due to the rack
moving back and forth. After a bit of explaining, my proving
that the mounts were brand new and pointing out the safety
bolts, he changed his mind and passed it.–
Clive, '62 Coupe 860320
Ontario, Canada
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