Can the steering rack mounts be replaced without removing the
radiator? Also does the rack need to come completely out of
the car to do this?
Thanks in advance
(67,Series 1, OTS)–
Rhughes
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In reply to a message from Rhughes sent Mon 9 Apr 2012:
Yes, difficult but doable. IIRC, you will need to disconnect
the lower steering column u-joint to get enough play to get
the bolts and old mounts out.–
Gary Herzberg, 63 3.8 FHC 66 Series 1 OTS, 98 xk8
Montana, United States
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In reply to a message from Gary Herzberg sent Mon 9 Apr 2012:
Just did it- and no need to remove the rad, but the lower steering
knuckle needs to slide off- make sure you get the ‘‘flat spot’’ on
the splines realigned, when reassembling, lest it become a real
chore and the splines get damaged by forcing the thru-bolt.
It is well worth the efforts, though, for steering sensation and
handling- but may reveal other ‘‘weak links’’ so to speak. Huff–
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In reply to a message from Rhughes sent Mon 9 Apr 2012:
Thanks for the info. Ordered the parts and am anxious to see
what kind of difference this makes in the handling.–
Rhughes
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Hi All,
In the process of replacing my steering rack mounts. My '70
E S2 OTS is LHD.
I notice that the outer 2 bolts that hold the rack on the
left side use spacers, whereas the right side does not.
Looks like a previous owner/mechanic did slip in 2 large
nuts as spacers on the right side.
Question, for those with left hand drive, does your rack use
spacers with the outer 2 bolts on the right side?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Bob–
'70 E S2 OTS
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In reply to a message from bobsxke sent Sun 27 May 2012:
Did some more reading on the forum and found my answer.
I guess spacers were only used on the drivers side. The
passenger side used 2 nuts as spacers. Very odd, but as some
have posted … there must have been a reason that Jag
engineers did it this way…
Any add’l comments are appreciated.
Bob–
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I notice that the outer 2 bolts that hold the rack on the
left side use spacers, whereas the right side does not.
–
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In reply to a message from bobsxke sent Sun 27 May 2012:
Hi bob, My steering mounts are the same both sides. The 2
outer bolts in each case have sleeves under the bolt
head,and are intended as safety devices to catch the
mounting plate should the rubber mount detach.In my case its
the sleeve on the bolt that would do the job.The hole in the
plate where the sleeve is, is too small to take a nut.–
The original message included these comments:
In the process of replacing my steering rack mounts. My '70
E S2 OTS is LHD.
I notice that the outer 2 bolts that hold the rack on the
left side use spacers, whereas the right side does not.
Looks like a previous owner/mechanic did slip in 2 large
nuts as spacers on the right side.
Question, for those with left hand drive, does your rack use
spacers with the outer 2 bolts on the right side?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Bob
'70 E S2 OTS
–
John M Holmes 1973 E Type SIII Supra 5Sp, 70 SII OTS 05XJ8L
Ontario, Canada
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In reply to a message from bobsxke sent Sun 27 May 2012:
Bob,
It sounds like you have identified from the archives that
the arrangement on the LH and RH sides of the car are indeed
different with spacers only being fitted on the driver’s
side. This can be confirmed by looking at the Jaguar Parts
List. Though the RH side does not use the spacers, the
arrangement of nuts still operates in the same way, allowing
the ‘‘rack side’’ of the mount to move freely within the
constraints imposed by the rubber, but prevent the rack
breaking free if the rubber fails. The only difference is
that the washers float free on the RH side, whereas the
spacer tubes trap them on the RH side. I don’t think anyone
has identified a reason for the difference, and using spacer
tubes on both sides would be equally effective, but when I
rebuilt mine I kept the original configuration, making sure
that the nuts were located correctly to give the same degee
of freedom on the R side that the spacer tubes give on the
LH side.
-David–
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Did some more reading on the forum and found my answer.
I guess spacers were only used on the drivers side. The
passenger side used 2 nuts as spacers. Very odd, but as some
have posted … there must have been a reason that Jag
engineers did it this way…
Any add’l comments are appreciated.
–
davidxk '56 XK-140 OTS, '69 XKE OTS , '98 XK8
Monterey CA, United States
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In reply to a message from davidxk sent Sun 27 May 2012:
I was intrigued by yr nut instead of sleeve set up. When I
re- looked at mine I note that the upper outer ''safety ‘’
bolt in fact passes all the way through the picture frame
(pf )…so this means that your bolt is pretty much threaded
all it length to hold the nuts at each pf face, with only a
short stub sticking out forward in order to do its job. The
lower outer bolt just bolts only to the face plate of the
pf. Clearly ( at least to me!! ) the sleeve approach can use
regular bolts…so its even more intriguing that Jaguar went
the 2 different routes. Not that this at all important…just
me musing!?–
The original message included these comments:
It sounds like you have identified from the archives that
the arrangement on the LH and RH sides of the car are indeed
different with spacers only being fitted on the driver’s
side. This can be confirmed by looking at the Jaguar Parts
List. Though the RH side does not use the spacers, the
arrangement of nuts still operates in the same way, allowing
the ‘‘rack side’’ of the mount to move freely within the
constraints imposed by the rubber, but prevent the rack
breaking free if the rubber fails. The only difference is
davidxk '56 XK-140 OTS, '69 XKE OTS , '98 XK8
–
John M Holmes 1973 E Type SIII Supra 5Sp, 70 SII OTS 05XJ8L
Ontario, Canada
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In reply to a message from davidxk sent Sun 27 May 2012:
Hi David, John, others,
Question… on the right side mount that use the nuts instead
of spacers, how are the nuts positioned? Do the nuts float
free in the center between the rack and the frame? Or does
the nut need to be locked (screwed tight) on the frame side?
Thanks,
Bob–
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rebuilt mine I kept the original configuration, making sure
that the nuts were located correctly to give the same degee
of freedom on the R side that the spacer tubes give on the
LH side.
–
'70 E S2 OTS
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In reply to a message from bobsxke sent Mon 28 May 2012:
Bob,
The nuts are tight. The sequence of ‘‘components’’ is as
follows as viewed from the front of the car:
The position of the plain nut is adjusted so that there is a
gap between the large plain washer and the large hole in the
front of the rack plate. This gap should be the same as that
measured on the driver side, which in that case, is provided
by the spacer tube. Once the position of the plain nut has
been suitably adjusted, the locking nut can be tightened.
The two nuts tighten against each other, thereby locking the
assembly to the picture frame. The only component that is
free to float is the large plain washer.
I hope this is clear.
-David–
The original message included these comments:
Hi David, John, others,
Question… on the right side mount that use the nuts instead
of spacers, how are the nuts positioned? Do the nuts float
free in the center between the rack and the frame? Or does
the nut need to be locked (screwed tight) on the frame side?
Thanks,
–
davidxk '56 XK-140 OTS, '69 XKE OTS , '98 XK8
Monterey CA, United States
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In reply to a message from davidxk sent Mon 28 May 2012:
David, thanks for the details…yes now quite clear. If i
knew why Jaguar did this ( and it made sense! ) I would
convert mine to the proper set up. Will muse only a little
more. I think I will focus on getting the exhaust on plus
install inlet manifolds and carbs!!–
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The nuts are tight. The sequence of ‘‘components’’ is as
follows as viewed from the front of the car:
davidxk '56 XK-140 OTS, '69 XKE OTS , '98 XK8
–
John M Holmes 1973 E Type SIII Supra 5Sp, 70 SII OTS 05XJ8L
Ontario, Canada
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