[E-Type] Thus Spoke Zara

Never mind… A few weeks ago, I was driving the Jag, and
got a rather sudden flat on the right rear. I put on the
spare, and proceeded home, whereupon I put air in the flat
tire, and found it leaking out at a prodigious rate through
the bead! Today I finally got around to dis-mounting it, and
found the explanation - a broken short spoke. The ‘‘usuals’’
seem to either not sell these, or have them as ‘‘special order’’
items. Anyone know where I can buy a few? Our local wire-
wheel guy, John Blake formerly of British Wire Wheel, seems to
have gone missing of late…–
Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
Santa Cruz, CA, United States
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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

Ray is it Dayton or Dunlop? Dunlop spokes can be had but unless you
have a very old account with Dayton they will not sell spokes. Best
of luck. BWW is gone–try Hendrix.–
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items. Anyone know where I can buy a few? Our local wire-
wheel guy, John Blake formerly of British Wire Wheel, seems to
have gone missing of late…


George Camp
Columbia SC, United States
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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

I also just looked at the new Vredesteins I just received.
Incredibly, the date code indicates 8/2013 manufacture date,
and I received them on 8/7! They must have been manufactured
practically the day before they shipped! Got them from
vulcantire.com - $700 for four, including shipping. Not
cheap, but by far the cheapest I could find.–
Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

Ray, I ran into the same problem, broken spokes, on one of my
wheels when I bought my car. I couldn’t find individual
replacement spokes either, so I bought a junker wheel that was
missing a few spokes and used a couple of its spokes as
replacements on my wheel. Let me know what length that you
need and if I have what you need, I would be glad to send a
couple to you. My donor wheel is a curly hub.–
Mark
Burke, VA, United States
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In reply to a message from George Camp sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

George,

I assume the wheels are Daytons, but don’t actually know for
sure. They are modern, non-sealed (well, from the factory - I
sealed them myself…), tubeless wheels.–
Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
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In reply to a message from mgordon sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

Mark,

Mine are curly hub. The broken one is one of the short ones -
about 4.5’’, more or less. These are stainless, as the wheel
is, AFAIK, a Dayton. Is that what you have?–
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Ray, I ran into the same problem, broken spokes, on one of my
wheels when I bought my car. I couldn’t find individual
replacement spokes either, so I bought a junker wheel that was
missing a few spokes and used a couple of its spokes as
replacements on my wheel. Let me know what length that you
need and if I have what you need, I would be glad to send a
couple to you. My donor wheel is a curly hub.

Mark


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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

I just called XKs, who lists the spokes as ‘‘special order’’. I
was told even they can’t buy them any more! Is one supposed
to replace a $300 wheel because of one broken spoke? Is this
another case of liability concerns gone insane? Seems
incredible to me…–
Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

Ray last I checked I could still buy spokes. I have some so let me
know what you need and you can have one if I have it.–
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I assume the wheels are Daytons, but don’t actually know for
sure. They are modern, non-sealed (well, from the factory - I
sealed them myself…), tubeless wheels.


George Camp
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Ray,

I had a couple of broken spokes on my 1969 E-Type FHC shortly after
purchasing it in 2002 and sent all five original wheels to John Blake for a
tune and true and replacement of a few more spokes. The replacement ones
he used were stainless steel, but you really can’t tell which one they are.
He was great to deal with, and I have had no wheel issues since then.

Here’s the latest info I have on John Blake, but I haven’t had any contact
in several years: J B’s Wire Wheels, 1770A Jose Avenue, Santa Cruz, CA
95062, Phone: (831) 465-0617

Regards,

Paul M. Novak

1990 Series III V12 Vanden Plas
1990 XJ-S Classic Collection convertible
1987 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1984 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1969 E-Type FHC
1957 MK VIII Saloon
Ramona, CA
P.M.Novak7@gmail.com-----Original Message-----
From: owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org] On
Behalf Of Ray Livingston
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:16 AM
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [E-Type] Thus Spoke Zara…

Never mind… A few weeks ago, I was driving the Jag, and got a rather
sudden flat on the right rear. I put on the spare, and proceeded home,
whereupon I put air in the flat tire, and found it leaking out at a
prodigious rate through the bead! Today I finally got around to
dis-mounting it, and found the explanation - a broken short spoke. The
‘‘usuals’’
seem to either not sell these, or have them as ‘‘special order’’
items. Anyone know where I can buy a few? Our local wire- wheel guy, John
Blake formerly of British Wire Wheel, seems to have gone missing of late…

Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA Santa Cruz, CA, United States
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Ray if you send your spoke to Buchanan Spoke in California they will
make you a new spoke or as many as you need. www.Buchananspoke.net

I have a couple of the short inside spokes for a series 2 wheel.

Dick Russ
70 OTS--------------------------------------------------
From: “Ray Livingston” jagboy@pacbell.net
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 2:31 PM
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Thus Spoke Zara…

In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

I just called XKs, who lists the spokes as ‘‘special order’’. I
was told even they can’t buy them any more! Is one supposed
to replace a $300 wheel because of one broken spoke? Is this
another case of liability concerns gone insane? Seems
incredible to me…

Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
Santa Cruz, CA, United States
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In reply to a message from Dick Russ sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

Ray maybe Hendrix wire wheel has them.

http://www.hendrixwirewheel.com/tires.html--
Benny 1968 4.2 S11/2 OTS
Old Bridge NJ, United States
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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

I have a collection of spokes/nipples but original chromed type
from the newer forged hub wheel. Measure the length of what you
need and if it’s the same I’ll be happy to fire off a few in the
mail.

vis new Vreds I paid $789 for five including shipping from Eurotire
a few months ago.–
Nick Saltarelli - 1968 E-type S1� OTS, 1954 XK120SE OTS
Niagara, Ontario, Canada
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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

Ray,

I have a spare short spoke (new) which is of no use to me as I
have changed to Daytons. You are welcome to it.

Rod–
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items. Anyone know where I can buy a few? Our local wire-


67 OTS, 55 MGTF
Quechee/VT, United States
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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

Just checked the spokes. They’re dead straight, 4.75’’ without the
nipple.


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Mine are curly hub. The broken one is one of the short ones -
about 4.5’’, more or less. These are stainless, as the wheel
is, AFAIK, a Dayton. Is that what you have?


Nick Saltarelli - 1968 E-type S1� OTS, 1954 XK120SE OTS
Niagara, Ontario, Canada
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In reply to a message from Nick S. sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

Hmmm… Mine has about a 20 degree bend about 3/8’’ from the
un-threaded end.–
Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

Ray,
I believe 8/2013 stands for 8th week of 2013, making it a
February production date.
Regards.
John G.–
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I also just looked at the new Vredesteins I just received.
Incredibly, the date code indicates 8/2013 manufacture date,
and I received them on 8/7! They must have been manufactured
practically the day before they shipped! Got them from
vulcantire.com - $700 for four, including shipping. Not
cheap, but by far the cheapest I could find.
Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA


John Gadbois '66 2+2
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

Spoke mentioned in previous post, 4 1/4’’ long, bend about 3/8’’
from unthreaded end.

Rod–
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In reply to a message from John G. sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

John,

You are right! I wasn’t thinking straight. Sadly, nothing
unusual in that lately…–
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Ray,
I believe 8/2013 stands for 8th week of 2013, making it a
February production date.
Regards.
John G.


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In reply to a message from Rod Fisher sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

Rod,

Mine is 4-3/4’’ from the tip of the threaded end, to the
furthest point of the un-threaded end. Is yours from a Dunlop
or Dayton wheel? I’m still trying to figure out exactly what
I’ve got here…–
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Spoke mentioned in previous post, 4 1/4’’ long, bend about 3/8’’
from unthreaded end.
Rod


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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Thu 15 Aug 2013:

No cigar, then. If nothing else we’re getting a lesson in wire
wheel morphology. The longer spokes in the forged hub wheel have
the bend in them.–
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Hmmm… Mine has about a 20 degree bend about 3/8’’ from the
un-threaded end.


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Niagara, Ontario, Canada
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