[E-Type] Windscreen washers

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I tried the washers on my '68 FHC and discovered that the tubing to
the drivers side had come loose from the jet and was dumping the
water down my pants leg. Does anyone know how to access the jet to
reconnect the tubing? I just can’t see how to get to them without
some major dismantling of the dash. Any advice would be
appreciated!

Kirk Phillips
'68 FHC–
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In reply to a message from Kirk Phillips sent Tue 14 Oct 2003:

Kirk,

I think you are looking at a partial dismantling of the dash. Even
with my car in its rebuilding stage the washer tubing is a right
b*****d. My hands were red roar getting in to the jets.
When I eventually got the tubing on I managed to get some very
small cable ties around the jets and tie them off using long nose
pliers.
I think this type of job would suit a surgeon who does key hole
surgery.

Dave
'61 OTS–
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I tried the washers on my '68 FHC and discovered that the tubing to
the drivers side had come loose from the jet and was dumping the
water down my pants leg. Does anyone know how to access the jet to
reconnect the tubing? I just can’t see how to get to them without
some major dismantling of the dash. Any advice would be
appreciated!

–
David Kerr
Pershore, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from David Kerr sent Wed 15 Oct 2003:

For keeping small-bore tubing in place you can use the spring clips
they use on fuel and carb breather pipes on bike carburettors. You
put these over the end of the tubing before you attach it and then
it’s a simple one-hand job to squeeze the ends open and move it
along the pipe until it’s over the monuting spigot and then
release. It clamps by spring pressure and provided there is some
kind of serration or barb of the spigot then they don’t come loose.
They cost pennies or even free from a scrap yard.–
Peter Crespin 94 X300 Daimler / 66 2+2 ‘E’
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Kirk,

Look at it this way, it’s a far less painful chore than changing the heater
pipes. It’s a good idea to remove the dash top first to improve access a
bit. Drop the instrument panel down and remove the relay and bracket from
the rectangular opening. Now the fun begins. Fish around under the cowl
with your hand until you locate the screen washer. If you’re lucky or have
very small hands and arms, you can push the tubing over the end of the
washer and the barbs will retain it. Otherwise, you can unscrew the wing
nuts securing the screen washer to the cowl and remove it. Don’t drop the
wing nut or lock washer. If you do, they are lost forever. This is a good
time to replace the tubing as well.

Next, feed the tubing up through the wing nut and lockwasher and then
through the hole in the cowl. It will be easy to attach the screen washer
to the tubing since everything is accessable. Push the screen washer back
into the hole and locate the nut and lockwasher strung on the tubing. Push
them up to the washer and secure. Everything else is, as the manual says,
the reverse of disassembly.

You will have scrapes and perhaps a cut or two on your hand and forearm by
the time you finish. Have a beer to lessen the pain.

Allan Jones-----Original Message-----
From: owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-e-type@jag-lovers.org]On
Behalf Of David Kerr
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:03 PM
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Windscreen washers

In reply to a message from Kirk Phillips sent Tue 14 Oct 2003:

Kirk,

I think you are looking at a partial dismantling of the dash. Even
with my car in its rebuilding stage the washer tubing is a right
b*****d. My hands were red roar getting in to the jets.
When I eventually got the tubing on I managed to get some very
small cable ties around the jets and tie them off using long nose
pliers.
I think this type of job would suit a surgeon who does key hole
surgery.

Dave
'61 OTS

The original message included these comments:

I tried the washers on my '68 FHC and discovered that the tubing to
the drivers side had come loose from the jet and was dumping the
water down my pants leg. Does anyone know how to access the jet to
reconnect the tubing? I just can’t see how to get to them without
some major dismantling of the dash. Any advice would be
appreciated!

–
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Pershore, United Kingdom
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How the heck did it come unattached. My were on so firmly I broke the
plastic nozzle trying to get it off on the drivers side.
Bill B

At 11:50 PM 10/14/2003 +0200, you wrote:

I tried the washers on my '68 FHC and discovered that the tubing to
the drivers side had come loose from the jet and was dumping the
water down my pants leg. Does anyone know how to access the jet to
reconnect the tubing? I just can’t see how to get to them without
some major dismantling of the dash. Any advice would be
appreciated!

Kirk Phillips
'68 FHC

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66 S1 OTS
e mail @Bill-B

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Kirk,
Through the rectangular hole between the fuse blocks and with small hands and arms :slight_smile:
pauls 67ots

I tried the washers on my '68 FHC and discovered that the tubing to
the drivers side had come loose from the jet and was dumping the
water down my pants leg. Does anyone know how to access the jet to
reconnect the tubing? I just can’t see how to get to them without
some major dismantling of the dash. Any advice would be
appreciated!

Kirk Phillips
'68 FHC
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In reply to a message from Paul Spurlock sent Wed 15 Oct 2003:

I’ve been lucky, and never had to perform this particular job, but
my understanding is, the proper tool to use is a 9 year old girl,
or at least someone with the arms and hands of one. (Reminds me of
the old, I think, Vincent Price quote: ‘‘Actually, I have the heart
of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk’’)–
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Kirk,
Through the rectangular hole between the fuse blocks and with small hands and arms :slight_smile:
pauls 67ots

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Whew! I’m glad my jets are on the bonnet!

Mike Eck
New Jersey, USA
Smiths clock electronic upgrade
'51 XK120 OTS, '62 3.8 MK2 MOD, '72 SIII E-Type 2+2

I tried the washers on my '68 FHC and discovered that the tubing to
the drivers side had come loose from the jet and was dumping the
water down my pants leg. Does anyone know how to access the jet to
reconnect the tubing? I just can’t see how to get to them without
some major dismantling of the dash. Any advice would be
appreciated!

Kirk Phillips
'68 FHC

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In reply to a message from Kirk Phillips sent Tue 14 Oct 2003:

Kirk,
You caan take off the dash pad and lower the wiper arm on that
side, or you can bleed a LOT. It is still best to have a very small
helper.
Chuck–
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In reply to a message from CHUCK123 sent Wed 15 Oct 2003:

It helps to remove the wiper arms and unscrew the wiper shaft
securing jam-nuts. It’s not necssary to disassemble the wiper
spacing bar nor the individual linkages. Then one can move the
wiper mechanism around to get better access. The only linkage to
the wipers you need to disconnect, for better access, is from the
wiper motor-arm.

Actually, when I did that a couple of months ago, I did it with the
wipers in the ‘‘park’’ position. It didn’t occur to me then that the
job might be easier with the wipers intact but in a different
position…

The more you take apart, the better the xhances of dropping a piece
into the air plenum cavity and be lost forever.

I still had to get help from a smaller hand.–
andyzak
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In reply to a message from andyzak sent Wed 15 Oct 2003:

So Bill should have advertised his contraption as

‘Body repair rotisserie and dropped bulkhead item retriever’

You could just turn the car upside down and shake it like a money
box…–
Peter Crespin 94 X300 Daimler / 66 2+2 ‘E’
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Speaking of which: Does anyone know the correct routing for the windshield
washer hose on the S2 2+2? PO never had it right, and I never got around to
researching it. But the other day I took note of how shabby it looks
hanging down when I open the bonnet.

Mike Frank

At 10:51 PM 10/14/2003, you wrote:

Whew! I’m glad my jets are on the bonnet!

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In reply to a message from Ray Livingston sent Wed 15 Oct 2003:

Gents:

Thanks for the advice. It has become apparent that a dash
dismantling is in order. I need to replace the dash pad anyway so
when I do that I can tackle the jets at the same time.
Unfortunately I don’t have a 9 year girl to do the job right now.
I do have a five year old model so I guess I can wait four years
till the tool is the proper size! In the meantime, I’ll either
need to remember not to use the washers or come up with some real
good one liners when people accuse me of p***ing in my pants!
Thanks and I’ll let you know how the project goes!

Kirk
'68FHC–
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I’ve been lucky, and never had to perform this particular job, but
my understanding is, the proper tool to use is a 9 year old girl,

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Mike wrote: “Speaking of which: Does anyone know the correct routing for
the windshield washer hose on the S2 2+2?”+++++++++++++++++++++

Mike: Imagine yourself standing at the carb side of the engine looking
forward. The hose leaves the nozzle, goes to your right just in front of
the stiffener spot welded to the rear edge of the bonnet. It is then routed
to the front of the car at the seam where the “fore-aft” sheet metal is
attached to the underside of the bonnet. There are several little clips
that slip onto the lip of the sheet metal and hold the hoes in place. If
you are an originality nut the clips should be Simi gloss black. I guess
the clips are available from the usual suspects but I have never seen a
listing for them. The hose runs like that to the bug screen, and then runs
down the right side of the screen. It then doubles back to the right side
radiator support held on by one of those black perf straps. Then follows
the frame rail back to the reservoir. I bought about 25 feet of tubing when
I did mine. can’t remember how much I had left over.

Do you know what the proper tubing is? I have seen clear (like aquarium
tubing) and black. I have black, but don’t know if it is correct.

Regards, John Walker
69 2+2

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That’s about how mine is routed, but it’s missing all but one of the clips,
which is probably why it hangs like loose spaghetti. Can’t help with the
color: believe it or not, mine is orange.

Mike Frank

At 09:45 AM 10/15/2003, you wrote:

Do you know what the proper tubing is? I have seen clear (like aquarium
tubing) and black. I have black, but don’t know if it is correct.

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Hello.
Has anybody had to replace the tube on the o/s windscreen washer?
I have looked at the problem from all angles but can’t see any way
of accessing the nozzle from inside the bulkhead. One thing I have
determined is that the nozzle is screwed into a nut which is not
captive!–
331fcd
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In reply to a message from 331fcd sent Sun 31 Jan 2010:

Welcome to the mysteries of Jaguar… You will have to remove the
dash top to gain access to the bulkhead void you will feel a
wingnut that attaches the water pistol… It is Not an easy job for
someone with big hands I usualy have remove the windshield or dash
assy. to do it… Good luck–
61 Triumph TR3A, Owned over 25 Jags
Gastonia, North Carolina, United States
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In reply to a message from 331fcd sent Sun 31 Jan 2010:

Remove the dash top, and use long needle nose pliers to grab one
wing of the nut through the holes in the bulkhead, then turn the
nozzle. When you put them back, get a couple of 1/4’’ Nylon wing
nuts from the hardware store, and re-tap them to the correct thread
for the nozzles, but don’t run the tap all the way through, leaving
the threads tight. This makes for a much better attachment than
the stock metal nuts. I did mine about five years ago, and they’ll
still very solidly attached. Don’t forget the fibre washers.–
Ray Livingston - '64 OTS Santa Cruz, CA
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In reply to a message from 331fcd sent Sun 31 Jan 2010:

Richard, I did this yesterday, piece of cake… since I
have the entire dash out. It is not easy (remember what you
are working on, the nothing-is-easy contest winner). I had
to remove the wiper assembly arm to get to the squirters.
(My replacement squirters came with a hex nut, which I found
no easier or more difficult than the wingnuts, probably
because with the arms loose I had ‘‘enough’’ access to reach
the threads.) Maybe others will have better news, but for
me there was nothing to do except remove the wiper arm.
Which means removing and replacing the spring keepers,
another story in and of itself.
Good luk, and hope you come out without too many nicks and
cuts. :slight_smile:
Bruce Harless–
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Has anybody had to replace the tube on the o/s windscreen washer?

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Bruce Harless, '64 S1 ots
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In reply to a message from 331fcd sent Sun 31 Jan 2010:

I used the fan squirters from a Geo Metro: they snap into
the slightly-modified holes in the bulkhead and require no
pesky nuts to retain them. They also squirt a much nicer
pattern!–
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Has anybody had to replace the tube on the o/s windscreen washer?

–
Paul Wigton, steward to a '60 DKW 1000 SP, Tweety, '63 FHC!
Keenesburg, CO, United States
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