Failure in Silicone Brake F

Concours
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Date: 4 Nov 1993 12:55:09 -0600
From: “Rob Reilly” reilly@admail.fnal.gov
Subject: Failure in Silicone Brake F
To: “British Cars” british-cars@autox.team.net,
“Jag Lovers” jag-lovers@psy.uwa.oz.au

I can corroborate with my own experience, having just put a new switch on my
XK120. I also noticed the amount of pressure required to light the lights was
increasing. I think I will disconnect it and install an external switch
somewhere on the pedal linkage.
So that is one thing to bear in mind when going to silicone.

In the Silicone brake fluid article in the October issue of BRITISH CAR
magazine the author claims that more pedal travel is required because
silicone fluid contains a higher percentage of dissolved air. Perhaps
this is a factor in the increased pedal pressure requirement to activate
your brake lights.

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Guys

I have been quietly trying to unsubscribe from the list, and after the 5th
attempt over several weeks, all I get back is this poxy message each time

HELP!!! If I don’t get off this list my Boss will fire me!

Ta

Phil Hall
88 XJ-S V12

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In looking at the “poxy” message, it indicates you have omitted some of the letters in your e-
mail address when you tried to unsubscribe. It appears to me that “gedl” has been left out. Do
you agree?

Dn KeirsteadOn 05/07/98 15:44:07 you wrote:

Guys

I have been quietly trying to unsubscribe from the list, and after the 5th
attempt over several weeks, all I get back is this poxy message each time

HELP!!! If I don’t get off this list my Boss will fire me!

Ta

Phil Hall
88 XJ-S V12

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From Majordomo@jag-lovers.org Thu May 7 15:44:13 1998
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 16:44:02 +0200 (MET DST)
To: hallp@gedl.ml.com
From: Majordomo@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Majordomo results

–

unsubscribe modern hallp@ml.com
Your request to Majordomo@jag-lovers.org:

unsubscribe modern hallp@ml.com

has been forwarded to the owner of the “modern” list for approval.
This could be for any of several reasons:

You might have asked to subscribe to a “closed” list, where all new
additions must be approved by the list owner.

You might have asked to subscribe or unsubscribe an address other than
the one that appears in the headers of your mail message.

When the list owner approves your request, you will be notified.

If you have any questions about the policy of the list owner, please
contact “modern-approval@jag-lovers.org”.

Thanks!

Majordomo@jag-lovers.org
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(carboned direct for speedier delivery, copied to list for overall info)

At 03:44 PM 5/7/98 +0100, Phil Hall - Systems Administrator wrote:

Guys

And don’t forget gals too.

I have been quietly trying to unsubscribe from the list, and after the 5th
attempt over several weeks, all I get back is this poxy message each time

unsubscribe modern hallp@ml.com

You might have asked to subscribe or unsubscribe an address other than
the one that appears in the headers of your mail message.

This usually means that you need to use “hallp@gedl.ml.com” (what appears
in the message you JUST sent to the list) because for all intents and
purposes, it IS a different address than hallp@ml.com.

For faster and less cryptic manipulation of your subcription, you might try
heading to the website:

<http://www.jag-lovers.org/cgi-bin/majordomo>

Enter your address, or what you THINK it is supposed to be, and choose
“subscribed lists”. Repeat the process for each address you think is might
have been used. I just did this, and in fact, the hallp@ml.com IS the
right address (which does make the error you’re getting seem weird -
perhaps the system doesn’t want to let you unsub FROM a different address
than you’re unsubbing?). Go there, and uncheck the box on “modern” and
submit, and you’ll be off.

BTW, this is how I subscribed and switched between digest and normal modes,
and it works fine. Much easier than semi-cryptic
majordomo/listserv/homebrew list commands.

Ask your boss if “digest mode” would be acceptable to her/him. Otherwise,
if you have web access from the office, a Juno/lycos/excite/hotmail/etc
freebie web-based email account would probably suffice, and keep the
messages out of the corporate mail system without keeping you away from the
jag lists.

(as sysadm, couldn’t you squirrel away an account on the system?)

— http://jaguar.professional.org/
Sean Straw '88 Jaguar XJSC 5.3L V12
Marin County, California '69 Buick GranSport 455 V8

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unsubscribe modern hallp@ml.com

Enter your address, or what you THINK it is supposed to be, and choose
“subscribed lists”. Repeat the process for each address you think is might
have been used. I just did this, and in fact, the hallp@ml.com IS the
right address (which does make the error you’re getting seem weird -
perhaps the system doesn’t want to let you unsub FROM a different address
than you’re unsubbing?). Go there, and uncheck the box on “modern” and
submit, and you’ll be off.

It’s kicking it because the request matches a known subscriber, but the
requestor does not. TO use the Major’s automatic stuff, you need to
hide the hostname (gedl), using just the domain in the header. This is a
very system specific thing.–

        Randy K. Wilson
           @Randy_K_Wilson1
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John
I recently had the exact same problem. Per Kirby’s book, I pulled the
switch, cleaned the copper lever inside with acetone and light scraping.
VOILA… It works better than ever :-)) Lapse time was about 20
minutes. Check the switch before removing and/or purchasing a new
motor.
Neil
85 XJ-S HE

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Anybody ever try this on the mirror switches?

Thomas E. Alberts
87 XJ-S

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This must be some kind of glitch in the new jag-lovers system.
It appears Roland is responding in Nov 2016 to something I wrote in Nov 1993 in the early days of jag-lovers when it was based at the University of Western Australia.
I had no idea the archives would go back that far.
BTW silicone brake fluid has been banished from my cars since 1994.

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“Dissolved air”.

That’s a new one.

Guessing “dissolved air” can’t be removed by vacuum bleeding?

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19 years later

ROFL!!

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No glitch, one of the reasons that it took so long to to migrate away from the old software was that it wasn’t trivial to find a new software which would allow importing of the (1.8 million) historical messages.

Some of the very early mailing list posts cause a problem for the system because they are very long (20K characters) but they are all there, with the owner of each post associated with the email/id it was originally created by.

If you reply to a post which is older than 180 days then the interface does pop up a message to indicate that you are reviving an old post, but we didn’t close the old threads.