[Lumps!] RE: [xj] Bonnet adjustment

I had a hinge welded recently and have not found a way to get mine adjusted
either. I did get some good advice that I have not tried yet. The one
fellow said to remove the front bumper allowing the loosening of the bolts
on the hinges and see if you could move it. I plan on doing this myself.
Have you checked the hinges ? mine was still attatched but the metal had
rusted and the whole hood (Bonnet) moved. This I think bent the other hinge
thus causing my post re-weld problem.

Good luck (I hate it when it comes loose).

Joel 83XJ6-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 5:57 PM
To: lumps@jag-lovers.org
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Subject: [xj] Bonnet adjustment

No, my hat’s not crooked, and I think my head’s on straight. But my XJ6’s
hood refuses to stay shut most of the time.

I’ve tried messing with the adjustments of the pegs that extend down, and
I’ve
oiled the cables, and I’ve greased up the other moving parts.

I think the big problem is that the bonnet is about a quarter or three
eights
of an inch too far forward when closed. There’s nearly 1/2" gap at the
back
edge, in front of the windshield. The gasket along that edge tends to get
folded over rather than going where it’s supposed to. Since the whole hood
is
so far forward, and owing to its taper and greater width at the back, it
also
rubs on the right and left sides, from the latches to the back corners.

Any idea how to adjust the fore/aft positioning of a '79 XJ6 bonnet?

thanks

mm

The pivot bolts under the bumper add very little to the adjustment
situation. Also, it is difficult to do anything with them with the hood
springs still attached. You CAN get to these bolts without removing the
bumper if you are clever.

The key are the three bolts that attach each hinge to the hood. Plenty of
adjustment there, and it can get the bonnet back. But you must disconnect
the springs during the adjustment procedure.

JohnOn Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Joel Fradkin wrote:

I had a hinge welded recently and have not found a way to get mine adjusted
either. I did get some good advice that I have not tried yet. The one
fellow said to remove the front bumper allowing the loosening of the bolts
on the hinges and see if you could move it. I plan on doing this myself.
Have you checked the hinges ? mine was still attatched but the metal had
rusted and the whole hood (Bonnet) moved. This I think bent the other hinge
thus causing my post re-weld problem.

Good luck (I hate it when it comes loose).

Joel 83XJ6

-----Original Message-----
From: MMMalmberg@aol.com [SMTP:MMMalmberg@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 5:57 PM
To: lumps@jag-lovers.org
Cc: xj@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [xj] Bonnet adjustment

No, my hat’s not crooked, and I think my head’s on straight. But my XJ6’s
hood refuses to stay shut most of the time.

I’ve tried messing with the adjustments of the pegs that extend down, and
I’ve
oiled the cables, and I’ve greased up the other moving parts.

I think the big problem is that the bonnet is about a quarter or three
eights
of an inch too far forward when closed. There’s nearly 1/2" gap at the
back
edge, in front of the windshield. The gasket along that edge tends to get
folded over rather than going where it’s supposed to. Since the whole hood
is
so far forward, and owing to its taper and greater width at the back, it
also
rubs on the right and left sides, from the latches to the back corners.

Any idea how to adjust the fore/aft positioning of a '79 XJ6 bonnet?

thanks

mm

The key are the three bolts that attach each hinge to the
hood. Plenty of
adjustment there, and it can get the bonnet back. But you
must disconnect
the springs during the adjustment procedure.

But the three bolts give up and down, but not fore and aft. To do fore
and aft you have to use the pivot adjustment (there must be a good 3/4
to 1 inch of slot, if I recall correctly.

Craig

Thanks John,
I will try those first. Let you know how I make out. I hope it is not that the hinge weld itself. On the side welded it seems lower toward the front and there is a lot of tension when trying to snap hood shut. It just gets worst, when I picked it up it seemed ok then the one side now the drivers side is popping loose.

Joel Fradkin
83 XJ6 SIII
Bradenton FL
Programmer / Analyst
Delphi, VB, C++, Visual InterDev, NT,
And SQL Server development-----Original Message-----
From: John Napoli [SMTP:jgn@li.net]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 5:28 PM
To: Joel Fradkin
Cc: ‘MMMalmberg@aol.com’; lumps@jag-lovers.org; xj@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [xj] Bonnet adjustment

The pivot bolts under the bumper add very little to the adjustment
situation. Also, it is difficult to do anything with them with the hood
springs still attached. You CAN get to these bolts without removing the
bumper if you are clever.

The key are the three bolts that attach each hinge to the hood. Plenty of
adjustment there, and it can get the bonnet back. But you must disconnect
the springs during the adjustment procedure.

John

On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Joel Fradkin wrote:

I had a hinge welded recently and have not found a way to get mine adjusted
either. I did get some good advice that I have not tried yet. The one
fellow said to remove the front bumper allowing the loosening of the bolts
on the hinges and see if you could move it. I plan on doing this myself.
Have you checked the hinges ? mine was still attatched but the metal had
rusted and the whole hood (Bonnet) moved. This I think bent the other hinge
thus causing my post re-weld problem.

Good luck (I hate it when it comes loose).

Joel 83XJ6

-----Original Message-----
From: MMMalmberg@aol.com [SMTP:MMMalmberg@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 5:57 PM
To: lumps@jag-lovers.org
Cc: xj@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [xj] Bonnet adjustment

No, my hat’s not crooked, and I think my head’s on straight. But my XJ6’s
hood refuses to stay shut most of the time.

I’ve tried messing with the adjustments of the pegs that extend down, and
I’ve
oiled the cables, and I’ve greased up the other moving parts.

I think the big problem is that the bonnet is about a quarter or three
eights
of an inch too far forward when closed. There’s nearly 1/2" gap at the
back
edge, in front of the windshield. The gasket along that edge tends to get
folded over rather than going where it’s supposed to. Since the whole hood
is
so far forward, and owing to its taper and greater width at the back, it
also
rubs on the right and left sides, from the latches to the back corners.

Any idea how to adjust the fore/aft positioning of a '79 XJ6 bonnet?

thanks

mm

Got my bonnet fitting much better now.

I used all the suggestions offered. First I examined the lower front corners
of it. One matched pretty well, the other was forward a bit.

On the side that matched, I used the “bending” technique, more or less. I
basically just pulled up on that side, which was the driver’s side, to lessen
the bend at the front. This made an immediate, obvious improvement on that
side. This moved the rear edge of the bonnet back about 1/4", just what I was
looking for.

Then I began to try the “driving into a wall” bending technique mentioned to
try to straighten the other side a litttle (which was more difficult to get
any response from by simply pulling upward by hand), to see if that would
help. I played with it a little then got cold feet. A little too scary for
my blood. Didn’t do any damage, but didn’t push it hard enough to make any
difference.

Removed the top chrome cover from the bumper, allowing me to access the nuts
on the other end of the bolts holding the hinges. This allowed me to move
that side of the hood back quite adequately. At this point the driver’s side
was tight along the fender side, so I loosened that mount and moved that side
back a bit also. At this point the whole bonnet was right where I want it all
the way around.

Next I closed the lid to see how the latches worked. They both snapped
affirmatively closed with pleasing ease.

Then I decided to see how it opened. WHOOPS! I didn’t! The driver’s side
was jammed. A little tugging around on the other side and I got it open,
tapped both pegs forward a little, and now everything works great.

Almost, anyway. One of the springs makes a big SPROING sound now whenever I
open it. I think spring slips from its slightly new position to a bit of a
groove worn in the slot, based on the previous hinge position, and the popping
of it into that slight slot makes a noise. Well, a little springy noise on
opening is a lot better than the constant opening while driving and paint
scraping of the edges of the bonnet due to the previous misalignment.

ANYWAY, thanks all a bunch for contributing to my successful realignment of
the bonnet.

Now I just have to figure out what’s going wrong with the central lock system,
which is somehow slipping, making only a ratcheting sort of sound.

Best regards to all.

mm

The down-and-up of the three bolts also affects the in-and-out, because of
the angles involved. I was able to move the bonnet back just witht he
adjustment from the three bolts (it was also sitting high).

JohnOn Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Craig Sawyers wrote:

The key are the three bolts that attach each hinge to the
hood. Plenty of
adjustment there, and it can get the bonnet back. But you
must disconnect
the springs during the adjustment procedure.

But the three bolts give up and down, but not fore and aft. To do fore
and aft you have to use the pivot adjustment (there must be a good 3/4
to 1 inch of slot, if I recall correctly.

Craig