[Lumps!] which 18" chrome wheels for 84 XJ6?

In reply to a message from sbs9 sent Wed 8 Aug 2007:

Hey hey…I resent that ‘‘luxobarge’’ comment! I prefer ‘‘luxury
race car’’ myself. I like messin around with some of the ‘‘kids’’ with
mustangs at work. I keep telling them that them and there ‘‘racing
pickle’’ (its bright green) don’t want no part of this ‘‘luxury race
car’’!–
Rob Wade
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Andrew,

Thanks for the info!

Where can I go to see pics of the wheels you mention?

Thanks!

Dan

Rim design is a matter of taste - personally I hate the all chrome
prism design wheels, and prefer selected Jag OEM XJR wheels (the
one’s Rob runs being my favourite) or the classic 5 spoke design
like the simmons FR17 or similar. I also like the minilites I run
on the road car but they are not available in large diameter.

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In reply to a message from Daniel Koster sent Wed 8 Aug 2007:

Shoot me a PM and I’ll send you some pics of mine.–
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In reply to a message from J. Rick Smith sent Tue 7 Aug 2007:

One thing I have not seen mentioned yet is the advantage of the
shorter wheel (say, the factory 15’‘) over the taller wheel (our
proposed 18’‘.) The tall wheel/tire combo will give your car more
handling and driving responsiveness at the expense of ride quality,
while the factory 15’’ will give you more comfort and a bigger car
feel.

However, the shorter 15’’ wheel, the same width as your proposed
taller wheel, will give you better traction from a dig. I tall
wheel/low profile tire combo will not help your forward moving
traction when you punch it at a red light. You will see a lot of
1/4 mile guys that are serious about traction running 15’’ and 16’’
rims. The larger and more compliant sidewall is better at
negotiating traction with the street than the lower profile tires.

Another thing to consider is the weight of the wheels and tires.
Adding a heavier (taller) wheel may increase your unsprung weight,
which will also reduce the comfort of your ride. Also keep in mind
that heavier wheels are harder to get rolling, and harder to stop.

At the end of the day it just comes down to consumer preference.
Different people want different things… just be sure to make an
informed decision!

-Dave–
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Someone enlighten me. Is there an advantage to go from a 15’’ wheel to the
larger wheels? It seems that there is some sort of buying frenzy about such
issues and honestly it does not make sense to me. I can imagine that in the
younger set that the overly tall tires are just style, but what are the
reasons for logical people to do such changes.


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Thanks for all the great comments. You guys really have me
thinking…evaluating.
I definitely want a larger wheel…but maybe I’ll stick with a 16" wheel
instead of 18".

Now…what wheel designs look best on the Jag?
Someone told me I should get corvette wheels (to complete the
illusion…since I have an '01 vette motor).

I just want more chrome than air…make sense?

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Dan

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The one you like the most is what looks best ! :slight_smile:

If you are concerned with what other people like best, I would
personally suggest something just a bit on the conservative side, as Jaguar
styling is not well suited to excessive bling. Understatement is the very
essence of Jaguars. If an admirer, yourself or another, sees only the
wheels and not the entire car, you’ve gone too far. IOW, the car does not
exist solely to be a showcase for the wheels, a notion many seem to disagree
these days, IMHO.

I don’t have any specific suggestions. Some of the Corvette wheels are
quite handsome, though.

Cheers
Doug Dwyer
Longview Washington USA
1995 XJR

Now…what wheel designs look best on the Jag?
Someone told me I should get corvette wheels (to complete the
illusion…since I have an '01 vette motor).

I just want more chrome than air…make sense?

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Well, the car is very “classic” right now…true sleeper. So, like you
said, I would like something appropriate and conservative.

But also “dressed up”. The chrome on the car has all be cleaned/polished
and it’s a shame to not have chrome wheels.

I’m ignorant as to what wheel patterns would look good on it. Would love to
have any suggestions at all.

Thanks!

Dan

The one you like the most is what looks best ! :slight_smile:

If you are concerned with what other people like best, I would
personally suggest something just a bit on the conservative side, as
Jaguar styling is not well suited to excessive bling. Understatement is
the very essence of Jaguars. If an admirer, yourself or another, sees
only the wheels and not the entire car, you’ve gone too far. IOW, the
car does not exist solely to be a showcase for the wheels, a notion many
seem to disagree these days, IMHO.

I don’t have any specific suggestions. Some of the Corvette wheels are
quite handsome, though.

Cheers
Doug Dwyer

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In reply to a message from Daniel Koster sent Sat 11 Aug 2007:

You could get a good set of Kents and have them powder coated in a
color that looks close to the color of chrome. I have chromed Kents
on my XJ6 at the moment, but the chrome tends to flake off
eventually. My tire guy reassures me that he sees a lot of this
happening with chrome wheels. I have managed to get a set of
pristine alloy Kents and will have them powder coated in the future
with a color that will augment the car’s looks. The chromed Kents
are quite flashy (bling) and I may be looking for something a
little more subtle in the future but not as ‘‘dead looking’’ as the
stock Kents. In my humble opinion they need some help.–
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said, I would like something appropriate and conservative.
But also ‘‘dressed up’’. The chrome on the car has all be cleaned/polished
and it’s a shame to not have chrome wheels.
I’m ignorant as to what wheel patterns would look good on it. Would love to
have any suggestions at all.


Alyn
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Thanks for the info. I am, actually, looking for a moderate amount of
bling. Not 24" spinners…but 17" chrome wheels would, to me, really
compliment the chrome all over the car (has a ton!).

The stock wheels look like crap on the car (no offense to anyone w/ stock
wheels).

I don’t want cragar ss 5-mag wheels…nor do I want the crazy
“spider-web-type” wheels either.

Surely some folks here have chrome wheels…and have some pics I can look
at…

;-(

?!?

Dan

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Speaking of “look like crap” stock wheels, I recently picked up cheap on eBay a set of the “crazy spider-web-type” wheels/worn tires, just to see how they would look. Anyway, got the rear driver’s side one replaced (what can I say – maybe “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”?) with no problem, but was unable to get the driver’s side front wheel to budge – lugs off, up on the air, sprayed a bunch of penetrating oil, tapped/hit with a small sledge – seems that the back of the wheel is rusted solid to the hub.

Is there something I’m missing here, or do I need to keep working at it with my sledge? Perhaps letting the jack down just enough, with the lugs still finger tight, to try to break the “rust weld” with the car’s weight?

Thanks,

Charles Cote’
Atlanta, GA

The stock wheels look like crap on the car (no offense to anyone w/ stock

wheels).

I don’t want cragar ss 5-mag wheels…nor do I want the crazy
“spider-web-type” wheels either.

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I just removed some lattice wheels from a donor XJS and had to back kick
them several times from side to side to get them to pop off. I believe these
wheels are aluminum but they were still stick to the hub. I smeared some
grease on the hub face before putting them on my keeper car. I would think
if they are really stubborn the loose lug nut, lower the jack idea would
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Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 10:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [Lumps!] which chrome wheel design for 84 XJ6?

Speaking of “look like crap” stock wheels, I recently picked up cheap on
eBay a set of the “crazy spider-web-type” wheels/worn tires, just to see how
they would look. Anyway, got the rear driver’s side one replaced (what can I
say – maybe “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”?) with no problem, but
was unable to get the driver’s side front wheel to budge – lugs off, up on
the air, sprayed a bunch of penetrating oil, tapped/hit with a small sledge
– seems that the back of the wheel is rusted solid to the hub.

Is there something I’m missing here, or do I need to keep working at it with
my sledge? Perhaps letting the jack down just enough, with the lugs still
finger tight, to try to break the “rust weld” with the car’s weight?

Thanks,

Charles Cote’
Atlanta, GA

The stock wheels look like crap on the car (no offense to anyone w/ stock

wheels).

I don’t want cragar ss 5-mag wheels…nor do I want the crazy
“spider-web-type” wheels either.

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In reply to a message from Rod Eckley sent Mon 13 Aug 2007:

Charles:

I read of one enterprising fellow that was faced with this issue.
he was able to get the lug nuts off but the ewheel was still stuck.

He lowered it to the ground and riocked the car back and forward
with the whelle cocked. I forgot if the car fell to the ground or
not, but the offending wheel came loose!!

Is this a ‘‘do not try this at home’’ maneuver?

Carl–
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say – maybe ‘‘beauty is in the eye of the beholder’’?) with no problem, but
was unable to get the driver’s side front wheel to budge – lugs off, up on
the air, sprayed a bunch of penetrating oil, tapped/hit with a small sledge
– seems that the back of the wheel is rusted solid to the hub.
Is there something I’m missing here, or do I need to keep working at it with
my sledge? Perhaps letting the jack down just enough, with the lugs still
finger tight, to try to break the ‘‘rust weld’’ with the car’s weight?


Carl Hutchins
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So here you are- I posted some pics of my 87 XJ6 with
95 XJ% wheels. These are polished 17x8 with 245-45-17.
The fit is good, no rubbing, and great grip. Have a
look:

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In reply to a message from Daniel Koster sent Sat 11 Aug 2007:

I have been following the wheel discussion on this forum, and
thought I would contribute some photos of the custom 17’’ polished
aluminum 5-spoke wheels on my 1990 XJ-40. I posted these to the XJ-
40 forum some time ago, so they may not have been picked up by the
Lumps group. Here’s the link: http://www.jag-
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And those rims had been moved around and antiseize
used on them! :slight_smile: Works on every other car I’ve owned
but the jag seemed to stick (but better than when I
first got it, a real PITA).
I got them off by using a large rubber mallet and
anger.

*There are those little thin pad type things you can
buy to put mount between the rim and hub to keep it
from happening in the future. Moss Motors sells them
for miatas, and I imagine british cars too.

Ross somewhere in WI— Rod Eckley reckley@bright.net wrote:

I just removed some lattice wheels from a donor XJS
and had to back kick
them several times from side to side to get them to
pop off. I believe these
wheels are aluminum but they were still stick to the
hub. I smeared some
grease on the hub face before putting them on my
keeper car. I would think
if they are really stubborn the loose lug nut, lower
the jack idea would
work.

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I just learned a new trick for this the other day…

Put a 4-way lug wrench on the lug, put a block/brick/stone/whatever under
the other end (to brace it) and stand on one side (jumping if needed) 'till
it comes off. Worked for me! (on a seriously locked up lug)

Dan

Speaking of “look like crap” stock wheels, I recently picked up cheap on
eBay a set of the “crazy spider-web-type” wheels/worn tires, just to see
how they would look. Anyway, got the rear driver’s side one replaced (what
can I say – maybe “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”?) with no
problem, but was unable to get the driver’s side front wheel to budge –
lugs off, up on the air, sprayed a bunch of penetrating oil, tapped/hit
with a small sledge – seems that the back of the wheel is rusted solid to
the hub.

Is there something I’m missing here, or do I need to keep working at it
with my sledge? Perhaps letting the jack down just enough, with the lugs
still finger tight, to try to break the “rust weld” with the car’s weight?

Thanks,

Charles Cote’
Atlanta, GA

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Thanks for the links, guys!

Trying to get as much suggestions as I can. Andrew - your 83 is very
similar to mine.

Here are my pics:
http://www.jag-lovers.org/snaps/snap_view.php3?id=1175995425

You can see in the first pic that there are chrome fender-trim on all
wheels. This, imho, makes the plain steel wheels look bad.

I just think some 16" or 17" chrome or polished wheels would make it look
great.

But I have no idea what wheel patterns are “pimp-ish” or “too much bling”.
I’ve never owned polished/chrome wheels before - but would love to get the
right ones
…!

Dan

So here you are- I posted some pics of my 87 XJ6 with
95 XJ% wheels. These are polished 17x8 with 245-45-17.
The fit is good, no rubbing, and great grip. Have a
look:

http://www.jag-lovers.org/v.htm?1186981105

I have been following the wheel discussion on this forum, and
thought I would contribute some photos of the custom 17’’ polished
aluminum 5-spoke wheels on my 1990 XJ-40. I posted these to the XJ-
40 forum some time ago, so they may not have been picked up by the
Lumps group. Here’s the link: http://www.jag-

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Nice Jag :slight_smile:

Since you’re asking for suggestions I would dump the chrome trim around the
wheel openings. When you get your new wheels—whatever they end up
being—you’ll have plenty of eye candy without the chrome trims.

Just my 2 cents

Cheer
Doug Dwyer
Longview Washington USA
1995 XJR

Trying to get as much suggestions as I can. Andrew - your 83 is very
similar to mine.

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In reply to a message from cadjag sent Mon 13 Aug 2007:

Loosen… DO NOT REMOVE the lug nuts,… drive the car slowly in a
circle -it will come loose.–
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In reply to a message from crcote@mindspring.com sent Mon 13 Aug 2007:

The easiest way to get that wheel off… put the lug nights back
on half way (not even touching the wheel) and drive around a
parking lot, cutting the wheel a couple of times. It will break
loose! You do NOT have to go fast.

-Dave–
The original message included these comments:

Speaking of ‘‘look like crap’’ stock wheels, I recently picked up cheap on eBay a set of the ‘‘crazy spider-web-type’’ wheels/worn tires, just to see how they would look. Anyway, got the rear driver’s side one replaced (what can I say – maybe ‘‘beauty is in the eye of the beholder’’?) with no problem, but was unable to get the driver’s side front wheel to budge – lugs off, up on the air, sprayed a bunch of penetrating oil, tapped/hit with a small sledge – seems that the back of the wheel is rusted solid to the hub.
Is there something I’m missing here, or do I need to keep working at it with my sledge? Perhaps letting the jack down just enough, with the lugs still finger tight, to try to break the ‘‘rust weld’’ with the car’s weight?


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