[modern] XJ8 trouble

Hello all Jaguar lovers!
I stopped to help a guy with a dead XJ8 at a very busy intersection.
He said the car died after he hit a small hole or something in the road.
The car would not start or shift out of park so I could push him to
the side of the road.

What a bunch of crap!
How could Jaguar build a car like that?

Anyone know what would do this?
When he got in, the steering wheel moved, but the engine would not
crank, and the shifter would not move…alarm system was not going
off…

He had to sit there, blocking traffic till the dealer sent someone
to rescue him.

Its every ones worst nightmare!

Brett
1990 XJ6
(stays running, even on bumpy roads!)

Brett, I believe the new Jags have an interlock on the park position.
Ignition must be on and foot brake applied before it will shift out of park.
My Audi A6q has it also, as have all Audis since the mid 80’s. A lot of new
cars have it now.
Jim Moore

Jim,
I had him try that, doors closed, foot on brake, nothing.

I looked for the rollover switch, but the newer cars have something
different, or in a diferent spot.

I had him try the alarm system, but that did nothing.

He was helpless…I was helpless…

The all knowing gods from the dealers likely got him going…

Brett
…Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:16:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gasshauler@aol.com
Subject: Re: [modern] XJ8 trouble
To: @Brett_Gazdzinski1, Modern@jag-lovers.org

Brett, I believe the new Jags have an interlock on the park position.
Ignition must be on and foot brake applied before it will shift out of park.
My Audi A6q has it also, as have all Audis since the mid 80’s. A lot of new
cars have it now.
Jim Moore

there is an interlock that prevents getting out of P unless the brake pedal
is pushed and I think the engine is started ( never tried ). I think it can
be overridden by removing a small screw cover on the shifter, with the tip
of the key, and pushing smeting… never tried either… . Engine won’t
crank if it’s not in park, maybe one of switches in there got damaged…

Isn’t there a fuel pump bump switch to shut off the pump in case of a hit ?
it’s long shot but who knows…

I guess one thing to try in these situation is to disconnect the battery for
a few minutes…

Pascal
Miami, FL----- Original Message -----
From: Brett Gazdzinski Brett.Gazdzinski@wcom.com
To: Modern@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 7:02 PM
Subject: [modern] XJ8 trouble

Hello all Jaguar lovers!
I stopped to help a guy with a dead XJ8 at a very busy intersection.
He said the car died after he hit a small hole or something in the road.
The car would not start or shift out of park so I could push him to
the side of the road.

What a bunch of crap!
How could Jaguar build a car like that?

Anyone know what would do this?
When he got in, the steering wheel moved, but the engine would not
crank, and the shifter would not move…alarm system was not going
off…

He had to sit there, blocking traffic till the dealer sent someone
to rescue him.

Its every ones worst nightmare!

Brett
1990 XJ6
(stays running, even on bumpy roads!)

Hi Brett,
Could it be that the emergency shut-off switch activated? Do they have one
on the XJ8?

Dick Pearson-----Original Message-----
From: owner-modern@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-modern@jag-lovers.org]On
Behalf Of Brett Gazdzinski
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 7:02 PM
To: Modern@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [modern] XJ8 trouble

Hello all Jaguar lovers!
I stopped to help a guy with a dead XJ8 at a very busy intersection.
He said the car died after he hit a small hole or something in the road.
The car would not start or shift out of park so I could push him to
the side of the road.

What a bunch of crap!
How could Jaguar build a car like that?

Anyone know what would do this?
When he got in, the steering wheel moved, but the engine would not
crank, and the shifter would not move…alarm system was not going
off…

He had to sit there, blocking traffic till the dealer sent someone
to rescue him.

Its every ones worst nightmare!

Brett
1990 XJ6
(stays running, even on bumpy roads!)

Dick,
The engine would not crank.
He turned the key, and nothing.
With key on, he had the dash lit up, but could not get the trans out
of park.

The steering wheel DID move out though, so something was working…

(its very important for the wheel to adjust when you are stalled blocking
a major intersection in your beautiful new Jaguar!)

You have got to wonder about most of these new gizmos they love loading
new cars up with…

Brett
1990 XJ6
…From: Dick Pearson rosefish@lcia.com
Subject: RE: [modern] XJ8 trouble
In-reply-to: 0FW400N2K7XL2C@dgismtp04.wcomnet.com
To: Brett Gazdzinski <@Brett_Gazdzinski1>, Modern@jag-lovers.org

Hi Brett,
Could it be that the emergency shut-off switch activated? Do they have one
on the XJ8?

Dick Pearson

My '93 XJ6 has the same interlock.

Kevin 93 XJ6 52K
Bothell, WA, USA----- Original Message -----
From: Gasshauler@aol.com
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: [modern] XJ8 trouble

Brett, I believe the new Jags have an interlock on the park
position.
Ignition must be on and foot brake applied before it will shift
out of park.
My Audi A6q has it also, as have all Audis since the mid 80’s. A
lot of new
cars have it now.
Jim Moore

Brett:
Indications are an interlock-related problem, and on my '94 there is an
override switch beneath a plug in the shift console that lets you shift out
of Park if you don’t have the ignition in the ‘on’ position and the brake
pedal depressed. (Comes in handy when trying to remove the ski slope and
you need to move the shift lever out of Park to get clearance.) The fact
that the starter couldn’t be cranked (I’m assuming) also indicates an
interlock-related problem. Seems as though on some cars the brake pedal has
to be depressed before the starter can be cranked (possibly true on this
XJ8?). Is it possible that a switch activated by the brake pedal to allow
(a) the car to be started and (b) the shifter to be moved out of Park either
(a) shot craps or, given the ‘hit a hole or something in the road’ scenario,
(b) suffered a loose or broken connector/wire? Seems like a good place to
start checking…
Mike Stone
Jet Black 1994 XJ6
77,xxx miles
Springfield, Missouri USA----- Original Message -----
From: Brett Gazdzinski Brett.Gazdzinski@wcom.com
To: Gasshauler@aol.com; Modern@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [modern] XJ8 trouble

Jim,
I had him try that, doors closed, foot on brake, nothing.

I looked for the rollover switch, but the newer cars have something
different, or in a diferent spot.

I had him try the alarm system, but that did nothing.

He was helpless…I was helpless…

The all knowing gods from the dealers likely got him going…

Brett

Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:16:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gasshauler@aol.com
Subject: Re: [modern] XJ8 trouble
To: Brett.Gazdzinski@wcom.com, Modern@jag-lovers.org

Brett, I believe the new Jags have an interlock on the park position.
Ignition must be on and foot brake applied before it will shift out of
park.
My Audi A6q has it also, as have all Audis since the mid 80’s. A lot of
new
cars have it now.
Jim Moore

Mike, can you be more discriptive of where the overide switch ( plug )
is located? I was not aware of this. It would be nice to know in case
one needs it.
Gene Johnston '94 XJ40

Brett,

Could he have triggered the inertia sensor (shuts off fuel pump in the event
of an accident) when he hit “the small hole or something in the road”. This
would explain the engine stalling. If that was the case, perhaps there is
some other safety feature that shuts everything else down until the inertia
sensor has been reset. Not that I have hit a lot of things but I would
imagine that it should take a substantial impact to activate the inertia
sensor. I’ve witnessed several fairly hard impacts by new cars that did not
activate the fuel pump cut-off (the cars were able to pull to the side of
the road). Just a theory.

Tom Simon
'95 XJ6-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Gazdzinski [mailto:Brett.Gazdzinski@wcom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:02 PM
To: Modern@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [modern] XJ8 trouble

Hello all Jaguar lovers!
I stopped to help a guy with a dead XJ8 at a very busy intersection.
He said the car died after he hit a small hole or something in the road.
The car would not start or shift out of park so I could push him to
the side of the road.

What a bunch of crap!
How could Jaguar build a car like that?

Anyone know what would do this?
When he got in, the steering wheel moved, but the engine would not
crank, and the shifter would not move…alarm system was not going
off…

He had to sit there, blocking traffic till the dealer sent someone
to rescue him.

Its every ones worst nightmare!

Brett
1990 XJ6
(stays running, even on bumpy roads!)

Gene:
My '94 has a plastic screw-in plug in the console surrounding the J-gate.
It’s at the forward end of the J-gate surround and to the left side. The
head of the plug looks like a Torx-head bolt (star shaped). You can use a
regular straight screwdriver to unscrew and remove it from the console and
then poke something like your ignition key (I used a #2 Phillips
screwdriver - only because it was handy) down the hole which trips the
release (override) for the Park lockout.
Mike Stone
Jet Black 1994 XJ6
77,xxx miles
Springfield, Missouri USA----- Original Message -----
From: EJohnston rej@med.unc.edu
To: Jag-lovers Modern@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 7:57 AM
Subject: [modern] XJ8 trouble

Mike, can you be more discriptive of where the overide switch ( plug )
is located? I was not aware of this. It would be nice to know in case
one needs it.
Gene Johnston '94 XJ40

Mike, yes the plug you mentioned is obvious once you know what it is.
Thanks, again though, I probably wouldn’t have known what it was without
your comments.
Gene Johnston '94 XJ40, '53 MKVII