Does anyone know the background of this tool stamped ‘Jaguar’.
I doesn’t appear to be the correct shape for XK120’s
I have also seen Dunlop tyre levers with this same stamping. Any ideas??
That looks like a catch key to me.
Hi Andrew.
It’s the stamping with ‘Jaguar’ that seems unusual. I’ve never seen this stamping on tools until recently seeing this and some tyre levers with the same stamp.
Regards, Graham
I call it a boot key. It is mounted on a clip and used to lock the plywood floor over the spare tire
Pat H
Graham there is ( was ) a tool company in the UK . that used the name Jaguar stamped on their tool such as you see there… I’ve seen it on claw hammers too. I expect you will get volumes from Roger on the minutae …
Nothing unusual about coach keys, they go back to the days of horse drawn coaches. The earlier type has straight handles and the later type like a dog bone. The Mark V has an L-shaped one.
But I have not seen any stamped JAGUAR until now.
Nor any Dunlop tyre levers stamped anything other than Dunlop Made in England.
They operate the budget locks on tool trays, spats, spare tire compartments and early E-Type bonnets.
For XK120 I believe you want the straight handle type.
I think early E-Type would be the last Jaguar model to use them?
So I suspect without much else to go on that your stamped key dates from the late 50s to early 60s.
Graham,
Most of the answers have been given.
Re Robs photos - the plain cylindrical headed ‘T’ key - Jaguar Part Number 2072, was first used for SS-Jaguars, continued for Mark IV, then XK120, XK140 and XK150 and indeed also external bonnet lock E-types. The only variation over that 1936 to 1961 period was the pre-war and Mark IV examples had the number 8700 stamped into one of the end flats, the significance of which I can only guess …… see pic …. stamping can be weak and variable, and this is best pic I can quickly find.
AS Rob also pointed out, the only other Budget Lock Key ever used by Jaguar, and only Mark V, was the ‘L’ shaped version part number C.2798.
But there is nothing at all unusual about Budget Locks and associated Keys, with a proliferation of makers and variants over the yeras, so typically if a Jaguar Tool Kit is missing its original 2072 Key, many people grab anything they find that works - indeed many specialist Jaguar suppliers just supply anything modern at hand. The shaped handle any-versions are very commonly found, with or without branding. As pointed out, this JAGUAR stamping is seen on some other tools, but nothing to do with Jaguar Cars Ltd, so you have to doubt even made in UK given Trade Mark laws - maybe a Chinese effort, or a Mexican/South American effort based on the animal name?
But the DUNLOP tyre irons, not actually made by DUNLOP but for them, can rarely be found with other branding… nothing to do with Jaguar tool-kits of course, always DUNLOP branded with a pre-war and post-war FONT variation, but see below example ……
JENBRO was of course a major pre-war British Tool Manufacturer, that later post-war became BRITOOL, so I wonder whether they may have indeed made also the DUNLOP branded tyre irons, or indeed this Tyre Iron tooling been bought out by some other manufacturer. Cant say I have seen these with JAGUAR branding - any photos Graham?
Roger
David,
Yours is an original Jaguar Part Number 2072 and not therefore one of the ‘fancy’ non-Jaguar alternatives.
Being 1950, can you advise if any complete or partial 8700 stamping on one of the end flats.
The only debate otherwise is original finish.
They were NEVER painted.
I suspect most likely just a hot quench oil natural steel with some minimal blackness, but basically natural steel looking, albeit I wont discount (yet) a more deliberate black-oxide finish.
Roger
Hi Roger, I just looked it over with a 10 power jewelers loupe and I can not see any partial numbers. That may be because it was stored on a clip next to the tire for around 45 years. I have owned the car since 1974 and there was never any paint or remaining finish on it.
Also good for Triumphs TR2/3s…
These were in my Mark V tool kit when it came to me in 1969.
Just marked DUNLOP MADE IN ENGLAND all done with one big stamp, not individual letter stamps. Nothing on the back.
Thanks David,
No 8700 stamping is as expected for a 1950 XK120, but given 1949 to 1951 Mark V did not have this 2072 Budget Lock Key, I need to keep double checking 1947/8 Mark IV to 1949/50 XK120 to be surer of my demarcation of 8700 stamping or not. I suspect it was somewhere after 1947 and before 1950, so looking for reliable 1948 Mark IV and/or reliable 1949 XK120s evidence - which are a bit thin on the ground in excellent unrestored condition. Once a car is restored its no longer reliable originality detail evidence.
This DUNLOP stamping is the second variation of the three different stampings, and is typical of Mark IV, Mark V and XK120 period of relevance, so totally as expected for a Mark V.
Pre-war SS-Jaguar have the first variation DUNLOP stamping, and there is a third variation stamping introduced after XK120 period of relevance for those into this next level of detail.
Thanks for photos Graham - in the lack of any definitive evidence, it ‘smells’ like someone’s effort to put together an aftermarket tool-kit, but hard to imagine long lasting due to trade-mark infringement.
But as sure as anyone can be - until the maker is identified - 99% sure nothing to do with Jaguar Cars Ltd. As per my JENBRO photo, if Jaguar Cars Ltd had wanted their own branded tyre irons, they would have had it done properly on the front!
Roger
Roger, you are amazing.
How about this one?
Markings a little hard to get a good picture of but they are:
7/16 A/F T/W in a circle 1/2 A/F
Rob:
In my tool roll I have the following:
-Small (4 1/4") adjustable wrench stamped “Jaguar”
-Slot screwdriver (7 1/4") marked “Jaguar” on black plastic handle
-11/32 A/F 3/8 A/F spanner stamped “Jaguar” (as per your photo)
-3/4 A/F 7/8 A/F spanner stamped “Jaguar” (as per your photo)
-7/16 A/F 1/2 A/F spanner stamped “Jaguar” but stamped “Carrington” not T/W
All of the “Jaguar” markings are as per the logo common to the era, i.e. small letters growing to larger and then reducing to small. Now, these I recognize are not correct to a 1953 XK120 DHC (my tool roll and tools had long since vanished by the time I acquired the car in 1963), but are from a 1959 Mk IX I owned. I simply purchased a tool roll from one of the usual suppliers and added the tools from the saloon to make up a tool kit that at least had “Jaguar” tools. There are also four tube sockets of varying sizes and a torque bar, these are not stamped “Jaguar”, but simply have the size marked on them plus a feeler gauge
Chris.
Are the Snails and King Dick all pre XK era?