In reply to a message from Roger Payne sent Wed 4 Dec 2013:
Hi Roger,
thanks a lot for your reply.
I use to upload some pics, so you can see for your own this
images.
Unfortunately, stamped number on the plate is not present.
The badge on the radiator grille show the correct ‘‘SS’’ emblem.
But I have some doubts about the authenticity of the car.
Please take a look at the photos on my photo album.
Please, notice this:
the �Jaguar’’ cast on the block of the motor. As I could
read on different documents, the brand �Jaguar� was adopted
after year 1945, and everything in the car, use to have the
correct �SS� surround by the hexagon. The ‘‘Jaguar’’
inscription, seems not to be correct for the year of the car.
At the front grille, old cars, use to have the �manual
start gear�, so must have a hole to fit the handle. This
mask did not have the hole.
If it is a reproduction, this really it is incredible well
done. I use to read that there is a factory �Suffolk� that
manufactured this car by hand, but with XK6 motor on it.
Also everything at the chassis is different, but the
maintain the exterior as original. This is not that case.
History about this car, is a bit confused, and I prefer not
to go ahead about it, before to try to identify what is
really what I have on hand.
The engine appears to be a post-war Mark IV 3-1/2 litre or
possibly Mark V though it does not have the usual Mark V
aluminum water pump extension casting. The black carb
dampers would point to early 1949 or earlier as only a few
Mark V’s had this.
There appears to be a modern electrical cutoff switch to the
rear of the exhaust manifolds.
Others will have to address the lack of a starting crank
hole. You are correct that the engine should normally have a
socket for a starting crank.–
XK120 FHC, Mark V saloon, XJ12L Series II, S-Type 3.0
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In reply to a message from Rob Reilly sent Wed 4 Dec 2013:
Hi Rob,
thanks a lot for your comments. You are confirming my
worries, about the originality of this car.
Motor is not a pre-war, and also other things you noticed.
I am trying to imagine how this car was made. If it is a
reproduction, cause everything inside the car: instruments,
badged, windshield, and other things, were correct.
As soon as I discover more, I will let you know.
For now, with the help of the participants, I discover that
this is not a ‘‘real’’ SS100.
Will keep posting, just to let all know what was the real
story about this car.
In reply to a message from Ed Nantes sent Wed 4 Dec 2013:
Hi,
Ok, I was thinking there was something wrong with the dash,
scuttle, manette and the steering column, but stayed quiet
as I am far from an expert… (that is on the other side of
the globe from Mr. Nantes
So I guess those parts (badge and dial faces) must be made
in Australia then, eh?
Cheers,
Pekka T. - 647194
Fin.–
The original message included these comments:
Technically , not quite everything
Manette, no petrol tap, wiper knob, windscreen.
NOy hard to make if one can afford it
I do like the instrument faces and radiator badge
though :>)
Ed Nantes SS
Melbourne, Australia
In reply to a message from Claudio100 sent Fri 6 Dec 2013:
Greetins All,
This e-mail made me think…no snide comments.
The last time I talked with an owner of an SS100, I’d asked about
clones, counterfeits, etc. He mentioned going through a good deal
of work and money as someone had ‘‘claimed’’ his serial nmber in
another country.
He managed to get it worked out but also mentioned that there are
more SS100’s registered in the world than ther were cars produced!
If that’s the case, it’s not that we’re ‘‘missing’’ any so much as
we’re flush with a few extras that share numbers. How does our
JDHT Certificates differentiate between the real and the spurious?
In reply to a message from Lovell sent Sat 7 Dec 2013:
Reproduction covers a lot of ground. From a VW chassis
with a caricature fiberglass body up to quite correct cars
made of similar SS chassis and actually more correct in
detail than many originals.
The essential difference is, do you own it to get the
pleasure of driving with all the good points and
limitations of a 30s sportscar. or do you own it as a
trophy to show off to you business colleagues and add to
your ‘’ portfolio’’ of investments?
If one goes back to the 30s / 40s 50s , at least in
Australia, the making driving and racing of specials , made
up of various parts was a serious part of Motor sport.
Too often we pay too much attention to ‘train spotters’
and rivet counters, who spend a lifetime dedicated , not to
restoring and driving these cars but pontificating on
what’s right and proper.–
The original message included these comments:
The last time I talked with an owner of an SS100, I’d asked about
clones, counterfeits, etc. He mentioned going through a good deal
of work and money as someone had ‘‘claimed’’ his serial nmber in
another country.
more SS100’s registered in the world than ther were cars produced!
If that’s the case, it’s not that we’re ‘‘missing’’ any so much as
we’re flush with a few extras that share numbers. How does our
JDHT Certificates differentiate between the real and the spurious?