[s-type] MY DIESEL S TYPE THAT WILL PUT ME IN MY GRAVE!

So to keep everyone up to date on my diesel S Type. Just 2 weeks
after after spending over �3,100.00 to run after 7 WEEKS in the
garage, the engine management light came on! I took it to the
garage and could find no codes and switched the light off. Just
everything settling down I was told. The light came on the very
next morning just as I started a round trip of 250 miles. The car
got me where I was going and back and ran superb but the light was
on. Took it back to the garage. Now we had a code saying No 3
injector inbalance. All 6 injectors are new so car booked into
Royles of Wilmslow for a no cost to me replacement of the faulty
injector. Meanwhile management light went off! Without car for a
further 4 days while Royles replaced injector, which as it made no
difference to the car they decided to charge �200.00 for the labour
involved. BUT! Engine management light back on! Royles say a
further 5 hours of investigation is needed at �100 per hour to find
out why the light is on.
When will it end

John.–
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In reply to a message from bigjon2 sent Sat 18 Jul 2009:

Sorry your having trouble again so soon John, one thing I cannot
understand is how can the garage possibly know it ll take 5 hrs to
locate the problem ?–
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involved. BUT! Engine management light back on! Royles say a
further 5 hours of investigation is needed at �100 per hour to find
out why the light is on.


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In reply to a message from dervdave sent Tue 21 Jul 2009:

So now having got it back from Royles. When it went in it was
driving superbly but now there is a lag between pressing the
accelerator and the car accelerating. I press the accelerator and
the car moves forward slowly for about 1 second and then without
any further pressure on the accelerator the car kicks in and
rockets off! Very disconcerting! However if I switch the engine off
and then restart, everything ok. What do you think? Royles have
said bring it back in but I just know it will drive ok when they
have it.

John.–
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In reply to a message from bigjon2 sent Fri 24 Jul 2009:

I wonder if a reflashing of the gearbox software is needed but I
know if the battery has been disconected the autobox has to
relearn the shifting patterns.–
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rockets off! Very disconcerting! However if I switch the engine off
and then restart, everything ok. What do you think? Royles have
said bring it back in but I just know it will drive ok when they


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In reply to a message from dervdave sent Sun 26 Jul 2009:

Car going back into Royles on Friday for a re check of what they
did.
However I have a theory - I have also noticed that if the car is
left standing for 24hrs or more, on start up the the starter
motor ‘kicks back’, the engine runs lumpy and heavy diesel smoke
comes out of the o/s exhaust. The amount of smoke and how long it
takes to disperse is directly proportinate to how long it has
stood. Now my theory is this :- one of the injectors on the o/s
bank is weeping while the car is standing. On the next start up the
excess diesel causes the cylinder to ‘hydraulic’ slightly 'kicking
back the starter and of course the smoke and lumpy running. The EM
System then detects a richness and reduces fuel levels causing the
initial flat acceleration. This continues until I switch off and
restart. Everything resets and all is well. I am going to tell
Royles about my theory. What do you think? By the way it is
definitly not the gearbox.

John.–
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I wonder if a reflashing of the gearbox software is needed but I


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In reply to a message from bigjon2 sent Tue 28 Jul 2009:

Sounds feasible to me John, but then again anything would because
modern diesels are that complex they just loss me off
When the fault codesare read it should show up if its an injector
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However I have a theory - I have also noticed that if the car is
stood. Now my theory is this :- one of the injectors on the o/s
bank is weeping while the car is standing. On the next start up the
Royles about my theory. What do you think? By the way it is


dervdave
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In reply to a message from bigjon2 sent Tue 28 Jul 2009:

Sounds feasible to me John, but then again anything would because
modern diesels are that complex they just loss me off
When the fault codes are read it should show up if its an injector
problem.–
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However I have a theory - I have also noticed that if the car is
stood. Now my theory is this :- one of the injectors on the o/s
bank is weeping while the car is standing. On the next start up the
Royles about my theory. What do you think? By the way it is


dervdave
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I’ve had my injectors changed twice under warranty due to injector
dribble. Apparently this was to cure the occasional misfire when the car
was warming up. It did make it run smoother for a time but it still
misses when it’s cold in winter.
Kevin (05 2.7D SE)-----Original Message-----
From: owner-s-type@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-s-type@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of bigjon2
Sent: 28 July 2009 18:53
To: s-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [s-type] MY DIESEL S TYPE THAT WILL PUT ME IN MY GRAVE!

In reply to a message from dervdave sent Sun 26 Jul 2009:

Car going back into Royles on Friday for a re check of what they
did.
However I have a theory - I have also noticed that if the car is
left standing for 24hrs or more, on start up the the starter
motor ‘kicks back’, the engine runs lumpy and heavy diesel smoke
comes out of the o/s exhaust. The amount of smoke and how long it
takes to disperse is directly proportinate to how long it has
stood. Now my theory is this :- one of the injectors on the o/s
bank is weeping while the car is standing. On the next start up the
excess diesel causes the cylinder to ‘hydraulic’ slightly 'kicking
back the starter and of course the smoke and lumpy running. The EM
System then detects a richness and reduces fuel levels causing the
initial flat acceleration. This continues until I switch off and
restart. Everything resets and all is well. I am going to tell
Royles about my theory. What do you think? By the way it is
definitly not the gearbox.

John.

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I wonder if a reflashing of the gearbox software is needed but I


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In reply to a message from Kevin Fox sent Wed 29 Jul 2009:

Aye theres nowt worse than a cold weather dribble Kev.–
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dribble. Apparently this was to cure the occasional misfire when the car
misses when it’s cold in winter.


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Hahahaha-----Original Message-----
From: owner-s-type@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-s-type@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of dervdave
Sent: 29 July 2009 17:09
To: s-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [s-type] MY DIESEL S TYPE THAT WILL PUT ME IN MY GRAVE!

In reply to a message from Kevin Fox sent Wed 29 Jul 2009:

Aye theres nowt worse than a cold weather dribble Kev.

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dribble. Apparently this was to cure the occasional misfire when the
car
misses when it’s cold in winter.


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