[Saloon-lovers] Negotiating eBay's auto ads

I’m in the habit of scanning eBay’s ads for Mark 2s, watching with
dismay as most of those that are sound don’t reach the sellers’
minimum prices. That was before eBay instituted its new system for
listing cars. Now, I often can only locate one or two for sale,
when in the past there were generally six or eight. I’ve taken
advantage of the opportunity eBay offers to leave negative comments
on the new system, but I’m wondering if I am simply too computer
challenged to make the new system work. One of the key ways I
located the cars I was interested in was to input the years they
were manufactured, but my effort to do this in the new system
doesn’t work. How are the rest of you eBay watchers faring with
this?–
Ron Keysor
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In reply to a message from Keys sent Thu 20 Sep 2007:

Ron

I use ‘saved searches’ with a number of phrases such as ‘Jaguar Mk
II’, ‘Jaguar Mk 2’, Jaguar MkII, Jaguar Mk2, and so on, with every
variation of Mark II that I can think of. Every day I get
notification of cars and parts under about a dozen saved searches,
including cars for sale. There are usually 3 or 4 items per search
to look through which doesn’t take too long to sort.

Having said all that, I have noticed that the number of Mk II’s for
sale seem to have diminished. Or perhaps it is cyclic, for
whatever reason. Recently there seem to be more fully restored,
fairly high priced cars listed. In the past there seemed to have
been parts cars or cars in need of restoration.

Like you, I too would be interested in hearing what some of the
others on the list do.

Tom–
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I’m in the habit of scanning eBay’s ads for Mark 2s, watching with
challenged to make the new system work. One of the key ways I
located the cars I was interested in was to input the years they
were manufactured, but my effort to do this in the new system
doesn’t work. How are the rest of you eBay watchers faring with
this?
Ron Keysor


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Ron,
I take a look at the Collector Car section and look at the Jaguar
heading…for the most part nowadays there really are only a couple of pages
of them…every once in awhile there may be three pages worth so I don’t
bother with filtering out any by model or dates…as it it is the problem I
have with eBay filters is it assumes that the seller correctly lists their
vehicle which I’ve not always found to be the case… I’ve found that if
anyone is serious about selling their classic Jaguar they will list it under
the Collector Car section of eBay motors. There is a few MK2’s in there now
which you probably have seen already.

I was interested in was to input the years they
were manufactured, but my effort to do this in the new system
doesn’t work. How are the rest of you eBay watchers faring with
this?

Ron Keysor
Orange Park, Florida, United States

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I have been keeping an eye on ebay for a couple years, I would say
that they have an overwhelming proportion of E Types.

I search for 196* Jaguar or 195* - - - * is a wild card. If you
want some really good low prices, type in 197* jaguar.

Also, for good deals, once in a while you should search for JaQuar,
which gets you to sellers who really do not know what they are
doing and who will not get any other viewers except you.

Any how, as to the prices that cars get, sometimes they seem
pitifully low. There was a Mk II last week where the bidding hit
$2.80 after 10 days. I didn’t think it was worth that much, but
maybe someone went to look at it and found a trim ring on it, or
something.
P.–
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hi all,

you know I’ve been searching for a big saloon… I guess the search is over,
I just got a (hopefully not too demanding) resto project on ebay

http://search.ebay.com/200152115221

I hope I didn’t end up paying too much, we’ll see… but I guess most of you
know how it is, when you set your heart to something, sometimes you end up
not listening to your mind… :slight_smile:

I’ll have a Jaguar shop near the seller go over it and fix the most urgent
things to make it roadworthy, then I’ll ship it to Italy… I don’t trust
the local mechanics, so I’d rather have it gone over by someone who knows
big cats… painting and cosmetics can be done here…

well, wish me good luck!

diego

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Diego,

Appears to be a good buy and looks like all of the trim pieces are
there. Whatever is missing you can buy from a number of vendors. You
should contact the JDHT and get a certificate for the car. It has the
original body and interior color, body and engine number, year
manufactured, and other info that might come in handy.

Alan Schultz
51 MKVII

Diego Montefusco wrote:

I hope I didn’t end up paying too much, we’ll see… but I guess most of you
know how it is, when you set your heart to something, sometimes you end up
not listening to your mind… :slight_smile:

I’ll have a Jaguar shop near the seller go over it and fix the most urgent
things to make it roadworthy, then I’ll ship it to Italy… I don’t trust
the local mechanics, so I’d rather have it gone over by someone who knows
big cats… painting and cosmetics can be done here…

well, wish me good luck!

diego

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Diego,
Enjoy your car…mine is a 1955 MVIIM and I drive it every
day, including today. Great cars!

                               Adrian Curtis--

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In reply to a message from Keys sent Thu 20 Sep 2007:

Guys,
In general, our interest is getting older ~ and therefore rarer…
We have run the International Jaguar ‘S’-type Register for over ten
years. In the early years we could find a lot of ‘stuff’
(luckily!) on eBay and because we bought it we now have it in the
Register library. But over the last few years there has been less
and less ~ of cars, literature, ads, mnodels and …
So, I guess it is a sign of the times!!

But another question. eBay buyers now seem to be ‘bottom feeders’
~ and worthwhile items, if offered, don’t reach a fair price. Is
there any mechanism to move really worthwhile Jaguar (1960s) items
to appreciateive owners for a fair price??
Cheers,
David & Patricia
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dismay as most of those that are sound don’t reach the sellers’
minimum prices. That was before eBay instituted its new system for
listing cars. Now, I often can only locate one or two for sale,
when in the past there were generally six or eight. I’ve taken


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hi alan,

Appears to be a good buy and looks like all of the trim
pieces are there. Whatever is missing you can buy from a
number of vendors.

apparently it’s only missing the fog lights, which are really not the
highest of my priorities at this time! :-))

You should contact the JDHT and get a
certificate for the car. It has the original body and
interior color, body and engine number, year manufactured,
and other info that might come in handy.

yep, I know, I have it for my XKE… anyway the seller had already requested
it, so…

I’ll keep you all posted, although it will be a while before I actually get
to SEE it in person! :slight_smile:

diego

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In reply to a message from Diego Montefusco sent Thu 20 Sep 2007:

CONGRATS Diego!!

(We may be able to track down some Mk VII Calif. parts for
you here off a parts car we know of… if you’re in need at
some point…)–
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you know I’ve been searching for a big saloon… I guess the search is over,
I just got a (hopefully not too demanding) resto project on ebay
http://search.ebay.com/200152115221
well, wish me good luck!
diego


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okay, first question: I need 5 new tyres for the newly acquired MkVIIM…
I’d go with radials, what size is the correct one?

and I don’t know what you guys think, but I’d love some wide whitewall…
suggestions?

thanks!

diego

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Hello Ron,

I think what you are seeing is a result of Ebay’s business decision
to reduce the number of unprofitable, low priced listings by
raising fees. There are fewer listings for many items, and the
number of users who list 100’s of items for .99 has gone down.
But, it is still filled with overpriced junk, like the recent $10K
seized 4.2 engine. Caveat emptor…

Paul–
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I’m in the habit of scanning eBay’s ads for Mark 2s, watching with
dismay as most of those that are sound don’t reach the sellers’
minimum prices. That was before eBay instituted its new system for
listing cars. Now, I often can only locate one or two for sale,
when in the past there were generally six or eight. I’ve taken
advantage of the opportunity eBay offers to leave negative comments
on the new system, but I’m wondering if I am simply too computer
challenged to make the new system work. One of the key ways I
located the cars I was interested in was to input the years they
were manufactured, but my effort to do this in the new system
doesn’t work. How are the rest of you eBay watchers faring with


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Diego,
Be careful with the tire sizing. The spats (wheel well covers, fender
skirts) limit how wide the tire can be. There is also limited room
between the tire and the rear springs. The search for tires has been on
my mind for over a year and I haven’t decided. The car is under
restoration so the 40 year old tires are still mounted. They still hold
air but no way will they be driven over the road. If any one offers
advise I would also like to know.
Diamondback Tires has a radial in the tall size. Coker also has radial
tire that is a replacement for my 6.50x16 bias ply tires. Prices are
rather high but what are the alternatives?

Good luck,
Alan
51MKVII

Diego Montefusco wrote:

okay, first question: I need 5 new tyres for the newly acquired MkVIIM…
I’d go with radials, what size is the correct one?

and I don’t know what you guys think, but I’d love some wide whitewall…
suggestions?

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Diamondback Tires has a radial in the tall size. Coker also
has radial tire that is a replacement for my 6.50x16 bias ply
tires.

thanks alan… although I think MkVII should have 6.70-16… which in my
utter ignorance I don’t know if it’s the same as 670-16 but I tend to assume
so… in which case the corresponding radial should be 185R16, correct me if
I’m wrong…

… anyway, we’ve got several MkVIII owners around here, so tell us what you
wear under your skirts! :-))

thanks

diego

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I usually offer anything Jaguar here in the free ads section first,
giving our members first shot at it. If no takers here I’ll try
ebay next.
I’ve a 60 MKII driver that I’ll be listing here soon.
Rich–
rich neary
perrineville/new jersey, United States
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Are the Diamondback or Coker radials wide white walls?

Frank Morse

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Diego - why don’t you ask this guy what make/where he got
his? (they look stunning and look like new-ish tyres…
Admittedly, it’s a Mk IX, but it’s a point in the right
direction, I think…)

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/jaguar/mk_9/491450.html--
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okay, first question: I need 5 new tyres for the newly acquired MkVIIM…
and I don’t know what you guys think, but I’d love some wide whitewall…


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Diego Montefusco wrote:

thanks alan… although I think MkVII should have 6.70-16…

I looked at my parts book and it says 6.70-16 then I went out to the
garage and looked at the four tires on the car. All four are 6.50-16
plus the two tires from the parts car that I scrapped out years ago are
6.50-16. Measured the one wheel that doesn’t have a tire and the rim is
5". According to the parts book the early MKVII had 5" rims. Maybe
someone can set us straight.

… anyway, we’ve got several MkVIII owners around here, so tell us what you
wear under your skirts! :-))

thanks

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I looked at my parts book and it says 6.70-16 then I went out
to the garage and looked at the four tires on the car. All
four are 6.50-16 plus the two tires from the parts car that I
scrapped out years ago are 6.50-16. Measured the one wheel
that doesn’t have a tire and the rim is 5". According to the
parts book the early MKVII had 5" rims. Maybe someone can set
us straight.

since I know nothing of tires, I don’t know if 6.70 means it’s wider than
5"… all I know is that 16 means the rim is 16" diameter…

yep, someone should set us straight!!

diego

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hi miles,

Diego - why don’t you ask this guy what make/where he got
his? (they look stunning and look like new-ish tyres…
Admittedly, it’s a Mk IX, but it’s a point in the right
direction, I think…)

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/jaguar/mk_9/491450.html

from their width in the second picture
http://cll.hemmings.com/uimage/908703-450-0.jpg?rev=1

they would seem cross-plies to me, like these
http://store.coker.com/product.php?productid=17498&cat=0&page=1

diego

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