[Saloon-lovers] Re: MK7-8-9 with manual transmission

Hi guys: Does anyone out there either have or know someone who has a
manual
transmission MK7,8 or 9? I am converting my MK9 auto to manual and need
a few photos to help my installation. Or, better yet, know of a parts car?
Regards, Bob McAnelly

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In reply to a message from Jagdad11@aol.com sent Fri 13 Mar 2015:

My very early MK VII is manual .

The ealy cars didn’t not have aremovable transmission cover
over the gear box [ and so the engine and box need to removed
from below the car
It also means that an over drive bx won’t fit as they are
taller. The engine is mounted at 4 points and the gearboc just
hangs on the back [ like an SS 00]
A manual gear lever in a car with bench seat is not
particularly easy to drive, but can get you on friendly terms
with the central passenger if having 3 across the front seat.

You would also need a dash rail from a manual car without the
cutout for the auto selector
The clutch arrangement will probably vary depending on LHD or
RHD.

TO my knowledge manual Mk 8/9 s were rare , I’ve only seen
one. So you may be better to look to MK VIIs for parts.–
Ed Nantes SS
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The trans tunnel with an access cover can be added from a
donor car.–
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I have the trans panel for the manual trans, which will replace mine from the auto. And I have a pair of mk 9 bucket seats. What I need are photos and dimensions of the clutch master cyl. And the j shaped return spring bracket and photos of the under bonnet throttle switch and the two relays. The only issue I see is the repair I will need to do to the dash cap, as the auto trans dash cap has a cut out area for the auto shifter. Any photos would be greatly appreciated. Regards, bob Mcanelly.Sent from my iPad

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The trans tunnel with an access cover can be added from a
donor car.

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Hi Ed I have a pair of mk9 buckets that I am having recovered. I hate the bench seat, so this is a nice bonus ( unless I had a real hottie sitting next to me that I wanted to explore as I shifted the car’s gears). I need photos of the throttle switch and relays and shots from under the car showing the clutch pedal area, the clutch master cyl and the j shaped return spring bracket. As I have to fabricate the j bracket and clutch
Master cyl bracket, a sketch and dimensions of them would be great. Of course, a left hand drive mk 8 or 9 dash cap from a manual trans car would be great as well. Regards, bob McanellySent from my iPad

On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Ed Nantes enantes@bigpond.com wrote:

In reply to a message from Jagdad11@aol.com sent Fri 13 Mar 2015:

My very early MK VII is manual .

The ealy cars didn’t not have aremovable transmission cover
over the gear box [ and so the engine and box need to removed
from below the car
It also means that an over drive bx won’t fit as they are
taller. The engine is mounted at 4 points and the gearboc just
hangs on the back [ like an SS 00]
A manual gear lever in a car with bench seat is not
particularly easy to drive, but can get you on friendly terms
with the central passenger if having 3 across the front seat.

You would also need a dash rail from a manual car without the
cutout for the auto selector
The clutch arrangement will probably vary depending on LHD or
RHD.

TO my knowledge manual Mk 8/9 s were rare , I’ve only seen
one. So you may be better to look to MK VIIs for parts.

Ed Nantes SS
Melbourne, Australia
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Hi Ed I have a pair of mk9 buckets that I am having recovered. I hate
thehe bench seat, so this is a nice bonus ( unless I had a real hottie
sitting next to me that I wanted to explore as I shifted the car’s gears). I
need photos of the throttle switch and relays and shots from under the car
showing
the clutch pedal area, the clutch master cyl and the j shaped return
spring bracket. As I have to fabricate the j bracket and clutch
Master cyl bracket, a sketch and dimensions of them would be great. Of
course, a left hand drive mk 8 or 9 dash cap from a manual trans car would
be great as well. Regards, bob Mcanelly

In a message dated 3/13/2015 6:56:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
enantes@bigpond.com writes:
In reply to a message from @Jagdad11 sent Fri 13 Mar 2015:

My very early MK VII is manual .

The ealy cars didn’t not have aremovable transmission cover
over the gear box [ and so the engine and box need to removed
from below the car
It also means that an over drive bx won’t fit as they are
taller. The engine is mounted at 4 points and the gearboc just
hangs on the back [ like an SS 00]
A manual gear lever in a car with bench seat is not
particularly easy to drive, but can get you on friendly terms
with the central passenger if having 3 across the front seat.

You would also need a dash rail from a manual car without the
cutout for the auto selector
The clutch arrangement will probably vary depending on LHD or
RHD.

TO my knowledge manual Mk 8/9 s were rare , I’ve only seen
one. So you may be better to look to MK VIIs for parts.–
Ed Nantes SS
Melbourne, Australia
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In reply to a message from Bob sent Fri 13 Mar 2015:

Bob

I shall have to explore in daylight I don’t recall any
switches on the throttle or relays , for a manual car and am
not sure what they would do.

I assume you are looking at a LHD car and of course the RHD
cars will be quite different .

I would suggest for the dash capping , that you get one from a
manual Mk VII , which were common [ in fact the only
transmission at first] and have it stained polished etc to
match the rest of your dash.

The MK VII parts book lists a number of parts in regard to
Clutch and accelerator controls as ‘’ fiited to RH drive cars
only ‘’ and delivered to LHD cars only’’

I would suggest it would be easiest to source these parts from
manual MK VIIs but will need to be LHD.–
Ed Nantes SS
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Hi Ed: If your car is a very early MK7, then it probably does not have
overdrive. So, if not an o/d car, yours would not have the throttle
switch
and two relays under the bonnet, as they are the controls for the o/d
solenoid. There is also a centrifugal switch on the o/d for the MK7.8.9.

Apparently Jaguar felt a need to have the o/d be an automatic application
for
those cars- In other words, once actuated by the switch on the dash, the
o/d
would be in an automatic mode- kicking out when the engine revs were
very
low (on braking) or hard acceleration, but working the majority of the
time.
While I will be installing a transmission and compact o/d from a 420,
I will not worry about those automatic activation bits and pieces, but I
would at least like to know what they look like should I ever encounter
them.
They would be a nice addition to my boxes of odd stuff on my shelves.
I think I will be able to modify my lhd MK9 auto dash cap to work. I
have bits and pieces of old veneer, and I hope I can find something that
will be close enough to what is already on my car.
Regards, Bob McAnelly

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enantes@bigpond.com writes:
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Bob

I shall have to explore in daylight I don’t recall any
switches on the throttle or relays , for a manual car and am
not sure what they would do.

I assume you are looking at a LHD car and of course the RHD
cars will be quite different .

I would suggest for the dash capping , that you get one from a
manual Mk VII , which were common [ in fact the only
transmission at first] and have it stained polished etc to
match the rest of your dash.

The MK VII parts book lists a number of parts in regard to
Clutch and accelerator controls as ‘’ fiited to RH drive cars
only ‘’ and delivered to LHD cars only’’

I would suggest it would be easiest to source these parts from
manual MK VIIs but will need to be LHD.–
Ed Nantes SS
Melbourne, Australia
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In reply to a message from Jagdad11@aol.com sent Mon 16 Mar 2015:

Bob

Indeed , mine is the 521st car so pre over drive.

Years ago I did have an O/d MK VIi and was very impressed
witht he Over drive switch on the facia that wa sinternally
illuminated

I recall that over drive MK VIIs had a 4.55:1 dif instead of
the 4.27:1 of the 4 speed car

For a bit better acceleration.–
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Hi Ed: If your car is a very early MK7, then it probably does not have
overdrive. So, if not an o/d car, yours would not have the throttle
switch


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In reply to a message from Jagdad11@aol.com sent Mon 16 Mar 2015:

I know of no electrical controls for the OD other than the
solenoid controls and the inhibitor switches on top of the
gearbox which switch the OD out whenever any gear other than
top is selected. I think this is probably what has been
referred to in some of the posts ( although at least one post
referring to OD dropping out at low speed was thinking of
another system which was fitted amongst others to Austin 3
litre cars ) The Jaguars never had any such device–
christopher storey
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Does anyone have the number of Mk7,8 and 9 that were built with manual gearboxes?
I am looking for a very good, late Mk9 MOD. I have an automatic but also want a MOD car. I love this model

I’ve got a couple of Mk1/Mk2 Moss manual overdrive gearboxes for a hundred a piece, if that helps? They would bolt ip OK I think. Better still, a 4-synchro box for not much more.

Peter. I do not know the answers to your questions. However, I installed a mk2 all synchro overdrive trans in my mk9 and love it. The auto trans was terrible. Much better performance with the new trans. It took a lot of digging to find all of the factory clutch and brake pedal components. One incentive I had to do the conversion was that I had acquired a pair of mk8/9 bucket seats a few years earlier, and as the front bench seat was so uncomfortable, I was going to install the buckets whether or not I did the trans swap.

Only tricky part was modifying the shifter to get it into the right location and to modify the sheet metal cover over the trans.

Regards, bob mcanelly