Ray-I can’t say for sure for the MK X, but Nigel Thorley has a picture
in his book of the optional belts with the leaping cat on the buckle-The
originals were without, but if you can get the snazzy ones, what the
heck…Nick.
I’ve seen the small leaper from a S2 E-type ashtray used to make buckles
look ‘snazzy’.
Ron@graphic1.comOn Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Denise Kelley wrote:
Ray-I can’t say for sure for the MK X, but Nigel Thorley has a picture
in his book of the optional belts with the leaping cat on the buckle-The
originals were without, but if you can get the snazzy ones, what the
heck…Nick.
The '63 Mk that I purchased for scrap has seat belts in the front only,
these have chrome buckles with little leapers on them. Thought to myself ,
that’d make a great lapel pin.
Cheers, and congratulations Frank.
Bob Norman
'59 MK IX
Gander, Newfoundland
Canada
Denise Kelley wrote:> Ray-I can’t say for sure for the MK X, but Nigel Thorley has a picture
in his book of the optional belts with the leaping cat on the buckle-The
originals were without, but if you can get the snazzy ones, what the
heck…Nick.
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Bob-Keep the little leapers on the buckles, and get an old XKE ashtray
mascot for your neckwear-Or Sell me the belts, and I’ll get you new non-
leaper ones…Nick.
I had planned on using the belts in my Mk IX, but two years passed between
the time I first saw the X, and when I was actually able to buy it. The
windows were broken out of it, and the belts, which weren’t great to begin
with, were ruined (rotten cloth, rusted-seized buckles). I may try to fix
'em but am thinking of trying to find some suitable chrome buckled belts
that I could attach the leapers to. Anyway, the IX is not going anywhere
for quite a while yet, so…
From you response am I to deduce that these buckles are non-standard?
cheers,
Bob Norman
Denise Kelley wrote:> Bob-Keep the little leapers on the buckles, and get an old XKE ashtray
mascot for your neckwear-Or Sell me the belts, and I’ll get you new non-
leaper ones…Nick.
Bob:
About those seat belts…, I live in Thunder Bay, Ontario are those belts
for sale or are you just teasing us. I have all the attachment points for
the belts but no belts. I have a couple or real nice “aircraft” pins you
could wear as a tie clip trade???
Ken Bittle,
62 MK 2, 59 TR3A, 57 Ford
I am looking for three two point sets of seatbelt hardware (in chrome) and
two three point for my MK 2 which has a biscuit interior. I will buy the
biscuit coloured webbing so all I need are the clips and shoulder hardware.
I also need one inertia mechanism for a Britax 3 seatbelt mechanism.
If anyone has this for sale could they contact me off-line.
Thanks
Dennis 61 MK 2
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Kevin, congratulations!
My Mark2 already had 4 inertia reel backs fitted via the correct mounting
points at the front and rear. Not enough for 3 young children so I got a 3rd
belt fitted in the centre via the floorpan under the seat and the rear
parcel shelf. Both attachment points were strengthened- the rear parcel
shelf by means of a very large and thick washer to prevent (hopefully) the
attachment bolt pulling through in the event of an accident!
Cheers,
Don
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I was wondering if anyone has installed any 3 point retracting seat belts in
the front seats of their MK II and if so what brand did they purchase.
Currently I just have the lap belt and just don’t feel as secure as I would
with a 3 point system. I thought about the non-retracting type but seems to
restrictive.
Ken
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In reply to a message from ken takei sent Tue 24 Apr 2007:
Hi Ken,
Buy a second hand set from a series 3, that way you can put them in
the back as well. All for the price of 1 new one.
Paul.–
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I was wondering if anyone has installed any 3 point retracting seat belts in
the front seats of their MK II and if so what brand did they purchase.
Currently I just have the lap belt and just don’t feel as secure as I would
with a 3 point system. I thought about the non-retracting type but seems to
restrictive.
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Bathurst, NSW, Australia
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A cautionary word on seatbelt installation. While seatbelts almost
always are a plus for safety, retrofitting seatbelts effectively
requires consideration of the attachment points. Cars built without
seatbelts originally often have weak points where belt attachment
might be desired. In other words, maybe you feel safer with the
belt, but on impact the belt may bend, or tear, part of the car
related to the attachment point. For example, floor sheet metal
often could easily bend, or be torn through, by attachment hardware
unless the load is spread or located with impact results in mind.
On the shoulder harness element, the B-pillar on pre-belt cars
often is weak for lateral bending moments and will not slow down
forward motion of a person as effectively as one might guess.
Seatbelt retrofitters may not have the engineering background to
quantitatively estimate all stretching during impact.
As well, consider the motion that is possible when belted. Cars
have many impact points for bodies including steering wheels,
dashboards, and windshields. Even though I have lap belts all
around in my daily driver Mark V, a belted passenger in the front
seat is likely to be decapitated on frontal collision because the
windshield is close enough to the front seats even if belts are on.
Drive with fear, even with belts.–
Roger McWilliams
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All good points Roger and might I add that putting '‘used’'seat belts
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In reply to a message from Red Phoenix sent Tue 24 Apr 2007:
A cautionary word on seatbelt installation. While seatbelts almost
always are a plus for safety, retrofitting seatbelts effectively
requires consideration of the attachment points. Cars built without
seatbelts originally often have weak points where belt attachment
might be desired. In other words, maybe you feel safer with the
belt, but on impact the belt may bend, or tear, part of the car
related to the attachment point. For example, floor sheet metal
often could easily bend, or be torn through, by attachment hardware
unless the load is spread or located with impact results in mind.
On the shoulder harness element, the B-pillar on pre-belt cars
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Columbia SC, United States
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Roger,
The main reason I was asking is, like you that solid steering wheel and
front windshield seems too close. I was hoping that in a wreck my head
wouldn’t make contact with the glass if I installed a 3 point system.
My floor seems solid (no rust) and the B pillars has a bolt hole that I
assume the shoulder harness will attach to.
Ken>As well, consider the motion that is possible when belted. Cars
have many impact points for bodies including steering wheels,
dashboards, and windshields. Even though I have lap belts all
around in my daily driver Mark V, a belted passenger in the front
seat is likely to be decapitated on frontal collision because the
windshield is close enough to the front seats even if belts are on.Drive with fear, even with belts.
Roger McWilliams
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Hi,
There are plenty of series 3 cars being wrecked for parts that have
NOT been in an accident. I think it better to have 3 point belts
than none at all, or just a lap belt.
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All good points Roger and might I add that putting '‘used’'seat belts
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In reply to a message from Red Phoenix sent Wed 25 Apr 2007:
True but they are still old. Your point that that might be better
than none may also be true but also may give a false sense of
security. I use the old buckles (winged one etc.) but always have a
new web installed so I am sure. Do not know if you ever race but if
you do you know the belts have to be refreshed at intervals
regardless.–
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There are plenty of series 3 cars being wrecked for parts that have
NOT been in an accident. I think it better to have 3 point belts
than none at all, or just a lap belt.
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In reply to a message from ken takei sent Tue 24 Apr 2007:
Ken, David Manners in the UK supplies Securon brand retractable
belts for front & rear of the MK2 at good prices. They provided a
great service via internet order & quick shipping to Australia.
Installation was relatively easy if you have static three point
belts already. The only thing you need to do is drill an extra hole
in the bottom of the B pillar (unfortunately through the trim panel
as well) above the floor mount position, then place the supplied
strengthening plate behind this (a bit tricky but you can hold it
in place with a finger through the hinge access opening). You can
then bolt up the retractable reel housing. The rest of the belt
anchors simply attach via the original holes. I mounted the rears
horizintally on the parcel shelf using the outboard top mounting
holes & a ‘‘S’’ bend bracket supplied with the belts. They work fine
and provide a much safer feel when seated than the old worn static
belts. Regards Dan.–
Dan Prentice
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I fitted these securon to my S-Type, and they are fine. are two lengths
for the part whernto that bolts to the floor, u want theer (12 inches or
so) one.
Alastair Lauener
64 S-Type
@Alastair_LauenerOn Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Dan Prentice wrote:
Ken, David Manners in the UK supplies Securon brand retractable
belts for front & rear of the MK2 at good prices. They provided a
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