Under car was Re: [E-Type] Fuel Line

Bill Bilotti wrote:

The underside of my car is already metal fuel line. (1966) was this a
modification by PO?

Bill, my '70 OTS has metal 5/16th inch fuel line from the rear bulkhead
to the filter bowl. Then there is a piece of plastic line from the
filter bowl to the metal fuel gallery on the carbs. (Keep in mind, I
have triple SU’s.)

The rear bulkhead connector has plastic line to the pump and from the
pump to the tank pickup. I thought they all came this way.

All this talk about plastic fuel line makes me wonder. It isn’t that
hard to install the plastic line on the fittings. Just clamp the banjo
fittings in a vise, between two scraps of wood. Spray some lubricant on
the barbed end and the plastic line and push. You only have to do this
job once so why not use something similar to the original?

My plastic fuel line came from XK’s. Usual disclaimers, just a
customer.

George Cohn
'70 OTS

I replaced the line from the rear bulkhead, which runs under the car,
with galvanized steel fuel line, 5/16" id., I think. I used a short
flexible connection at each end. Then I used a rubber fuel line from the
filter to the carbs, also 5/16" id. I also changed the fitting on the
fuel rail to an AN union which is a breeze to take off compared to the
awful original joint.

Can you get braided SS with our type of end fittings? Usually they have
AN or SAE union type ends.
The underside of my car is already metal fuel line. (1966) was this a
modification by PO?

Bill B

George,

Can I get the white nylon fuel line on without taking off the banjos and the
carb “T” or am I just making life hard?

Shelley Yoelin
69 FHC wip> hard to install the plastic line on the fittings. Just clamp the banjo

fittings in a vise, between two scraps of wood. Spray some lubricant on
the barbed end and the plastic line and push. You only

George,

I had a very successful day installing my new fuel line. When I couldn’t get
the original white plastic/nylon stuff from Moss Motors I went across the
street and bought a length of 1/4"i.d. rubber fuel line at a commercial auto
parts store. My fuel rail (also triple SUs) had a fitting on the end which
consisted of a bronze bush that accepted a steel bolt with an extension for
the fuel line. I removed that and put the rubber line on by hand after
coating the extension with a little dish detergent. I didn’t even remove the
banjo fitting at the filter; just lubed it too and slid the fuel line on.
Piece of cake. Only problem I had was that the fitting at the fuel rail
leaked at first. Turned out the two components had to be tightened much
tighter that I first thought necessary. I was afraid of stripping it, but
after two tries with the with the fuel pump turned on I got it tight enough
that it stayed bone dry, whereupon I went for a much deserved joy ride
through the countryside on this first long afternoon of Daylight Savings Time!

Regards,
Warren

In a message dated 4/7/02 6:17:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gwcohn@mindspring.com writes:> All this talk about plastic fuel line makes me wonder. It isn’t that

hard to install the plastic line on the fittings. Just clamp the banjo
fittings in a vise, between two scraps of wood. Spray some lubricant on
the barbed end and the plastic line and push

Shelley Yoelin wrote:

George,

Can I get the white nylon fuel line on without taking off the banjos and the
carb “T” or am I just making life hard?

You might be able to but it’s so much easier to clamp them in a vise and
really be able to push on the nylon fuel line. All I can offer is try
it first on the car.

If it doesn’t work or you think you are going to break something, take
it off and use the vise. Just remember to use something soft to clamp
the banjo fittings in the vise.

I used old paint stir sticks as the paint store gives me a fist full
every time I buy paint. At retail paint prices they had better give me
something!

George Cohn
'70 OTS

At 1

The rear bulkhead connector has plastic line to the pump and from the
pump to the tank pickup. I thought they all came this way.

All this talk about plastic fuel line makes me wonder. It isn’t that
hard to install the plastic line on the fittings.

Goodness knows it isn’t the work of it, I think the concern is can the
clear plastic be trusted? I thought yes, but warren managed to break
his. As thd paint guy said to me, “you don’t wanna go throught all this
just to have the thing burn to the ground…”

Bill B

Bill,
I don’t feel strongly either way but I’m hesitant to malign the plastic
stuff to much. I’ve seen a lot more leaking rubber hoses than plastic
ones (keep the fire extinquisher handy :slight_smile: That may be because I’ve
seen more rubber than plastic but I certainly have no reason to think
plastic is less reliable. If I had to choose one today solely based on
my experience of which seems to be most long lived I’d choose plastic.
pauls 67ots

Goodness knows it isn’t the work of it, I think the concern is can the
clear plastic be trusted? I thought yes, but warren managed to break
his. As thd paint guy said to me, “you don’t wanna go throught all this
just to have the thing burn to the ground…”

Bill B
<<<<<<<<<<<From: Bill Bilotti etype66s1@cox.net
Subject: Re: Under car was Re: [E-Type] Fuel Line

Here in Calif. there are many car fires every year because the stuff
that the state requires to be added to the gasoline eats the rubber
hoses at a swift rate.
LLoyd

paul spurlock wrote:>

Bill,
I don’t feel strongly either way but I’m hesitant to malign the plastic
stuff to much. I’ve seen a lot more leaking rubber hoses than plastic
ones (keep the…

With that in mind, what does it do to the rubber on the jets? Didn’t
someone come up with a resistant rubber–color blue, I think?

tom-----Original Message-----
From: LLoyd G Nolan soothsayer@redshift.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org e-type@jag-lovers.org
Date: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Under car was Re: [E-Type] Fuel Line

Here in Calif. there are many car fires every year because the stuff
that the state requires to be added to the gasoline eats the rubber
hoses at a swift rate.
LLoyd

paul spurlock wrote:

Bill,
I don’t feel strongly either way but I’m hesitant to malign the plastic
stuff to much. I’ve seen a lot more leaking rubber hoses than plastic
ones (keep the…

I think the current generation of fuel hose is alchohol resistant I
certainly haven’t had a problem in years. My first set of jets petrified,
I’m assuming due to alcohol in the fuel. The current set, which happens to
be blue, has been fine for several years.

The worst experience I had with alcohol fuel was with an early 80’s
Chrysler product. They used to use a thick rubber spacer between the carb
and manifold, I guess to insulate it from heat. When gasohol fuel became
common, the spacer just melted…

Mike Frank

At 06:40 PM 4/9/02, you wrote:>With that in mind, what does it do to the rubber on the jets? Didn’t

someone come up with a resistant rubber–color blue, I think?

What is the stuff California uses? Is it by chance ethanol?

Our province here has just stated they will be requiring a minimum ethanol
content in our fuel of 10% within a couple of years. This has started a
discussion in our local group about what it will do to our engines and
seals. Is this going to be a problem ? What would we need to do to prevent
problems?

Bob
'69 E
'72 XJ6

|-----Original Message-----

| Here in Calif. there are many car fires every year because the stuff
|that the state requires to be added to the gasoline eats the rubber
|hoses at a swift rate.
| LLoyd

Bob:
First let me say that I live in a state that produces a lot of ethanol,South
Dakota. All our fuel contains either 10% or 85% and I have had no problems
in six years running old Jags, newer Jags, and even lawnmowers. There is a
lot of hype against ethanol, but most doesn’t follow science. California has
used MTBE which, like ethanol, has a high affinity for water. The difference
is we all drink grain alcohol in one form or another, and no one in his
right mind would drink MTBE.
Richard Herting
XK120 OTS
XK150 OTS
XKE

I have a new set of SU tuning parts right here on my desk. The rubber on the
jet diaphragms is blue. I’m blue, too, because I haven’t had a chance to get
to work on this little job!

Warren

In a message dated 4/9/02 7:04:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mfrank@westnet.com writes:> My first set of jets petrified,

I’m assuming due to alcohol in the fuel. The current set, which happens to
be blue, has been fine for several years.

We have a couple, alcohol and MTBE. Bith highly corrosive to rubber.

From November to (March?) they increase the amount, and we start
hearing of car fires along the highways. Several every winter in
Monterey county alone.
LLoyd

engl wrote:>

What is the stuff California uses? Is it by chance ethanol?

Our province here has just stated they will be requiring a minimum ethanol
content in our fuel of 10% within a couple of years. This has started a
discussion in our local group about what it will do to our engines and
seals. Is this going to be a problem ? What would we need to do to prevent
problems?

Bob
'69 E
'72 XJ6

|-----Original Message-----

| Here in Calif. there are many car fires every year because the stuff
|that the state requires to be added to the gasoline eats the rubber
|hoses at a swift rate.
| LLoyd

Yes, blue. The cars that burn are the older ones that the minimum wage
earners with five children can hardly afford to keep running. Of course,
they have no insurance to replace the car, so they eventually end up
buying another junker.
LLoyd@Affluence.com

tom felts wrote:>

With that in mind, what does it do to the rubber on the jets? Didn’t
someone come up with a resistant rubber–color blue, I think?

tom

Richard Herting wrote:

Bob:
First let me say that I live in a state that produces a lot of ethanol,South
Dakota. All our fuel contains either 10% or 85% and I have had no problems
in six years running old Jags, newer Jags, and even lawnmowers. There is a
lot of hype against ethanol, but most doesn’t follow science.

I believe it was the methanol that caused problems with the fuel lines
and rubber parts.–
Manfred
63 E FHC
86 XJ6