Newbie here, so I hope you don’t mind an oddball question to start
things off. I’ve always been a fan of the XJ-S, but it seems
unlikely I’ll own one any time soon - my garage is already too
full.
But as a nutty car guy who likes to turn car parts into
functional ‘‘artwork’’, my mind started turning when I came across a
5.3 equipped XJ-S at the U-Pull-It junkyard, and I admired the
length of the engine. Hmmm, I bet those camshafts could be the
basis for, well, hmmm, something? Speaker stands perhaps?
So naturally, here’s my question… How quickly can I extract a
set of camshafts and what’s involved? And special tools required?
Any shortcuts I can take, given that re-installation is not a
requirement? This car is due to be crushed soon, so avert your
eyes - junkyard terrorist tactics are encouraged. :O)
Any guidance appreciated,
Brad–
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Biggest job will probably be getting the intake manifold off. If you take a
look at my write-up on replacing cam cover gaskets you can see some pics of
what things look like in there. Go to my Web site.
for, well, hmmm, something? Speaker stands perhaps?
So naturally, here’s my question… How quickly can I extract a
set of camshafts and what’s involved? And special tools required?
Any shortcuts I can take, given that re-installation is not a
requirement? This car is due to be crushed soon, so avert your
eyes - junkyard terrorist tactics are encouraged. :O)
Any guidance appreciated,
Brad
–
Brad
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In reply to a message from DPDISXR4Ti sent Fri 7 Nov 2008:
Making a table from the cams, different but why not? Do know that
one cam is shorter than the other.
Chadbourn Bolles
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In reply to a message from Dr. Chadbourn Bolles sent Fri 7 Nov 2008:
Thanks Ed & Chad. I had no idea that one cam is longer than the
other - I guess that mostly rules out using them for table legs! :O)
Will just standard depth English sockets with some extensions get
the intake manifold and cam covers off, or do I need some deep
ones? Any guidance on sizes would help, as I usually carry only
metric sockets and wrenches.
Once I get the intake manifold and cam covers off, is it just a
matter of removing the cam retainer caps? Will I need a slide-
hammer of some sort to pull them out the front? Will clearance be
an issue with the radiator support? Alternatively, and yes, perish
the thought, but might I just be able to smash through the front-
end passage with a BFH and avoid all that? I realize you’re all
cringing at the thought of that, but I’ve actually had success with
that tactic on some other applications where leaving carnage behind
wasn’t a concern.–
Brad
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In reply to a message from DPDISXR4Ti sent Fri 7 Nov 2008:
Early engines are SAE type wrenches and sockets.
Intake is 1/2 in, injectors are 7/16ths, cam covers if I remember
right 3/8ths or 7/16ths, except for the 4 at the front, they are
1/2 in.
Cam sprockets are 9/16ths, the hard part will be turning the cam to
get to the bolts as there are 4 and they have lock tabs on them, no
big deal there.
Cam bearing caps 1/2 in.
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Once I’ve gotten to this point and then removed the 7 cam caps, is
there anything other than the chain itself holding the cam in
place? If so, what’s the best way to relieve the chain tension, or
might I be able to rotate the cam up from the back enough to be
able to simply ‘‘dump’’ the chain off the front and have it free?–
Brad
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In reply to a message from DPDISXR4Ti sent Fri 7 Nov 2008:
Brad, once you remove the cam sprockets the chain will be no big
deal as when the sprocket comes off the cam, the tension on the
chain goes away.
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In reply to a message from Dr. Chadbourn Bolles sent Fri 7 Nov 2008:
Thanks Chad, you’re correcting some incorrect assumptions I was
making about how the engine is built. I couple more questions and
I think I’ll be done…
What’s the cross-over year to when the engine became metric?
Was it the transition from the 5.3 to 6.0?
Will I be able to rotate the cams over (to get access) by the
sprocket bolts? Obviously I won’t care about possibly slipping the
timing in the process - just trying to figure if I might need
whatever size(?) large socket to rotate from the crank instead.
I presume I just need to tap the retainer tangs back with a
chisel to get access to those bolts, yes?
Thanks again - it’s always fun to work on a classic engine for the
first time, yet without the concern of screwing something up.
Worse case, I just walk away.–
Brad
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In reply to a message from DPDISXR4Ti sent Fri 7 Nov 2008:
Jaguar started changing to metric around 1983, BUT the engine
remained mostly SAE. Even the last 6.0 engines, all the main/rod
and head bolts were still SAE. The cam bearing cap nuts/studs, cam
cover, intake studs/nuts, exhaust manifold studs/nuts were metric.
You may not be able to turn the engine to get to some of the cam
bolts, but who cares, just bang things out of your way, you are not
going to put the engine back together anyway.
You might have to hammer away on the retainer tabs, but again, who
cares.
Chadbourn Bolles
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The original message included these comments:
What’s the cross-over year to when the engine became metric?
Was it the transition from the 5.3 to 6.0?
Will I be able to rotate the cams over (to get access) by the
sprocket bolts? Obviously I won’t care about possibly slipping the
I presume I just need to tap the retainer tangs back with a
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In reply to a message from Dr. Chadbourn Bolles sent Fri 7 Nov 2008:
Sounds like you’ve seen my ‘‘junkyard terrorist’’ techniques at work
before! :O) It’s amazing the shortcuts you can take when you don’t
have to put it back together, and you have a big hammer and
cordless sawzall at your disposal!
Thanks again for all the advise.–
The original message included these comments:
You may not be able to turn the engine to get to some of the cam
bolts, but who cares, just bang things out of your way, you are not
going to put the engine back together anyway.
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Nearly ten years have passed since I started this thread. Came across a '88 XJS recently and my brain started turning with interesting ideas. “Haven’t I had this idea before” I thought.
