[v12-engine] Ron Kelnhofer's banjo bolts

Guys, I’m trying to puzzle this one out. I don’t have a problem with Ron’s
prices, since we are talking about items made in small production runs.
What I’m worried about is the proprietary copper washers. I though the whole
idea behind this project was to be able to use readily available copper
washers. Does his solution accomplish anything that isn’t done by the oil
hole modification in The Book?-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Kelnhofer [mailto:rkelnhofer@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 4:19 AM
To: Peter_Cohen@exchange.dell.com
Subject: Re: Jaguar Banjo Bolts & stuff

Peter,

I looked everywhere I could think of in order to use an already available
off the shelf washer for my banjo bolt. I couldn’t find one. I thought about
using the one Kirby talks about but at 1/16’’ thick I felt I would have to
make the banjo bolt too long causing some problems installing it in those
tight areas between the firewall and the head.

So, in answer to your question, they are made special by me. .031’’ thick,
annealed copper. That is why they cost more than “universal” ones. I made
300 of them which makes it impossible to be competitive with the companies
making 3,000,000 of them in on set-up. Quite honestly, if I was to make any
money on them, I would have to charge more for them than I am but I was
concerned about peoples impression that I was gouging so I decided at $1.75
each. They really should be $2.75 ea.
SEE! You’re already gasping!!:)))

I understand it’s not an ideal situation for you, but if it’s any
consolation, I plan on having them available permanently. Several persons
have inquired about these things and surprising to me ordered several spare
washers. DRAT! I should have made more!

Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: <@Cohen_Peter>
To: rkelnhof@execpc.com
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: Jaguar Banjo Bolts & stuff

Ron-
How widely available are the copper washers? I am concerned about getting
into a situation where I have to remove a banjo bolt, and unable to finish
the job for lack of new washers.

Peter

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Does his solution accomplish anything that isn’t done by the oil
hole modification in The Book?

No. Use anything thicker than Jag’s daft skinny ones and you will have to
modify the banjo. Consequence of not doing so will result in zero oil to
the camshaft bearings.

Craig

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Peter_Cohen@Dell.com wrote:

Guys, I’m trying to puzzle this one out. I don’t have a problem with
Ron’s prices, since we are talking about items made in small
production runs.

His prices on banjo bolts are fair. His prices on aluminum tensioner
plugs and half moon plugs are OUTSTANDING, everyone should jump on
those deals!

What I’m worried about is the proprietary copper
washers. I though the whole idea behind this project was to be able to
use readily available copper washers.

The idea was to provide a reliable seal and remove the obstruction to
the oil flow. This design was f**ked up from the factory, the
thicker washers fixed the leaks but made the obstruction worse, they
didn’t create either problem to begin with.

Despite Ron’s insistence that you need to use his washers to keep the
spacing correct, you should note that even if you use the thicker
Help! washers the cross hole alignment will STILL be better than with
the OEM banjo bolt with OEM washers! Using the 1/16" thick Help!
washers with his banjo bolt will result in the cross hole being
misaligned by about 0.031", but the OEM banjo assembled with OEM
(paper-thin) washers has the cross hole misaligned by about 0.057".

Does his solution accomplish
anything that isn’t done by the oil hole modification in The Book?

IMHO, no – unless you value the switch to stainless steel or the
infinitesimal increase in thread length. But that doesn’t alter the
fact that some owners may prefer to simply buy the fix rather than
trying to modify the OEM bolts.

– Kirbert
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From: Ron Kelnhofer [mailto:rkelnhofer@wi.rr.com]

Several
persons have inquired about these things and surprising to me ordered
several spare washers. DRAT! I should have made more!

Uhhhh, for anyone who considers it important, I’ll point out that
only ONE of Ron’s 0.031" washers is necessary to properly align the
cross hole with the banjo collar: the one under the head of the bolt.
The other washer, the one between the collar and the tappet block,
could be a 1/16" thick Help! washer; it does not affect cross hole
alignment. So, when you get two washers with the banjo bolt from
Ron, you could save one of them as a spare if you wish.

– Kirbert
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