[x300] Re: Seriously thinking of buying an X300

Hi folks,

I’ve had four Jags and I’m now thinking of picking up a 1997 VDP. It’s the
6-cylinder model and has 85,000 kilometres on it (about 50,000 miles).
Color is British racing green.

Folks, based on your collective experience, I have two questions…

— What are the big problems with these particular cars???

— What are the the great advantages??

Thanks in advance for your help.

Jeff Booth
Oakville, Ontario
92 Ser. III VDP V12 (No. 36 of last 100)
71 Ser. III E-Type

In reply to a message from Jeff Booth sent Mon 23 May 2005:

Jeff,

I recognize your name from the XJ list, welcome!!

There’s plenty in the archives… but you knew that. :wink:

Problems:
The exhaust manifolds crack often because they are cast iron
Sticky throttle body requiring periodic cleaning easy to do on n/a
models but tough on the XJRs due to intercooler and intake in the
way
Cam cover seal can leak over time
LCD clock cable becoming loose over time resulting in partial
display of digits
Sunroof alignment goes out of adjustment every year or two,
Sometimes an ignition coil can fail
A tensioner rattle at start up if oil is thin
Rad bushes get destroyed overtime and result in a clunk from the
front
Some have had problems with control arm bushings
Sticky trunk lock due to lack of use
Sticky door lock actuators which cause interior lights to flicker
especially if rear and passenger doors are rarely used
A couple common rattles from the solar sensor in middle of dash,
from one of the window pulleys if partially open
Clearcoat on the earlier models had a problem with
checking/cracking/sun damage rectified on older models

The great advantages are that the above ARE the major problems that
aren’t so major!

They are reliable, cheap, underappreciated, and only produced for 3
years. Its won awards for most reliable Euro luxury car of its
time. Engines are dirt cheap due to serious lack of demand and
much cheaper than transmissions.

Cheers,
Sunny–
Sunny Garofalo, '97 XJ6 Anthracite/Charcoal, 123k miles
Burbank, CA, United States
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In reply to a message from JaguarXJ6 sent Mon 23 May 2005:

I think Sunny is spot on. I chatted with my mechanic friend
Rick before buying mine recently, and he says they really
don’t see many problems with the X300s. They don’t replace
alternators, starters, a/c compressors, or much of anything
else with any regularity. Rick is big on changing fluids,
prefering an annual brake flush, coolant every 2 years, he’d
really like people to flush the transmission and change diff
oil every two years too - it’s pretty cheap and the things
will last for ever. They sometimes see problems with the
electrical relays (Hella made in Germany).

They’ve not found the need to routinely replace coolant
hoses, preferring just to keep an eye on them.

Poking around under mine on the rack yesterday I was struck
by what an amazingly well sorted car it really is. The
driveline is of a very high quality, and well thought out.
Looking at the engine bay it appears remarkably simple, you
can actually recognise the principle systems and easily see
where everything goes.

Looked after properly the engine and transmission appear to
be capable of very long, dependable life. Rick’s shop, which
specialises in Jaguars, just doesn’t see much work needed on
the X300s at all. At current prices they seem to be a bargain.

Kevin–
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The great advantages are that the above ARE the major problems that
aren’t so major!
They are reliable, cheap, underappreciated, and only produced for 3
years. Its won awards for most reliable Euro luxury car of its
time. Engines are dirt cheap due to serious lack of demand and
much cheaper than transmissions.


'96 Vanden Plas
Bothell, WA, United States
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In reply to a message from Kevin Campbell sent Mon 23 May 2005:

Ditto Sunny and Kevin.
My 96VP runs has some minor problems such as driver door cntrl pnl
tits up, manual/key entry to trunk no good, clock, a/c cycles and
wont cool in idle, and most recently the sun/moon roof stuck
retracted and the last 3in. stayed under the headliner.
But…minor, all of them, because this bugger runs like a raped
ape, and looks great. My xj40 may have been a little faster, but VP
is much nicer. I did however like the rims on my 94. Rims for
sale or trade.
Steve–
96 VP, 94 xj40
Greenville, SC, United States
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Yeah, minor all of then - the sunroof thing - until it starts raining!
And that ‘raped ape’ comment are stuff like this allowed on the list?
I would suggest a new paint job - paint the rear end red!! That would make
it a true ape, or more of the baboon that it seems more like it to be!

Nico,
96 XJ6.-----------

At 10:55 PM 5/22/2005, you wrote:

In reply to a message from Kevin Campbell sent Mon 23 May 2005:

Ditto Sunny and Kevin.
My 96VP runs has some minor problems such as driver door cntrl pnl tits
up, manual/key entry to trunk no good, clock, a/c cycles and wont cool
in idle, and most recently the sun/moon roof stuck retracted and the
last 3in. stayed under the headliner.
But…minor, all of them, because this bugger runs like a raped ape,
and looks great. My xj40 may have been a little faster, but VP is much
nicer. I did however like the rims on my 94. Rims for sale or trade.
Steve

96 VP, 94 xj40
Greenville, SC, United States
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Why don’t you paint a target on your roof to make it easier for…-----Original Message-----
From: c1035573@verizon.net
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 00:51:54
To:x300@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [x300] Re: Seriously thinking of buying an X300

Yeah, minor all of then - the sunroof thing - until it starts raining!
And that ‘raped ape’ comment are stuff like this allowed on the list?
I would suggest a new paint job - paint the rear end red!! That would make
it a true ape, or more of the baboon that it seems more like it to be!

Nico,
96 XJ6.

At 10:55 PM 5/22/2005, you wrote:

In reply to a message from Kevin Campbell sent Mon 23 May 2005:

Ditto Sunny and Kevin.
My 96VP runs has some minor problems such as driver door cntrl pnl tits
up, manual/key entry to trunk no good, clock, a/c cycles and wont cool
in idle, and most recently the sun/moon roof stuck retracted and the
last 3in. stayed under the headliner.
But…minor, all of them, because this bugger runs like a raped ape,
and looks great. My xj40 may have been a little faster, but VP is much
nicer. I did however like the rims on my 94. Rims for sale or trade.
Steve

96 VP, 94 xj40
Greenville, SC, United States
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Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile.

MM, Maybe they are as good as a supermodel. Must have changed that for the
X308.

Jack - '99 XJ8L
York, PA USA

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In reply to a message from Kevin Campbell sent Mon 23 May 2005:

Ditto Sunny and Kevin.
My 96VP runs has some minor problems such as driver door cntrl pnl
tits up,
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96 VP, 94 xj40
Greenville, SC, United States
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In reply to a message from Jeff Booth sent Mon 23 May 2005:

Jeff,

I can happily say that the two Jags I own right now are the two
best cars I have ever owned – even though the looks of my departed
85 XJ6 still stand out in my mind as better than the 96. My X300
is Racing Green, undoubtedly one of the best colors to have for
this model. It’s the most dependable, trouble-free car of all the
ones I’ve owned, and it’s a great drive into the bargain. At about
107,000 miles it shows no signs of giving up, and the lines still
look like a new car. Go for it! (You should also consult the X300
Book here on Jag-Lovers. That’s my car on the eBooks title page,
BTW!)

Regards,
Warren Hansen
96 X300
70 E-Type FHC–
The original message included these comments:

I’ve had four Jags and I’m now thinking of picking up a 1997 VDP. It’s the
6-cylinder model and has 85,000 kilometres on it (about 50,000 miles).
Color is British racing green.
Folks, based on your collective experience, I have two questions…
— What are the big problems with these particular cars???
— What are the the great advantages??


Warren Hansen
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In reply to a message from Warren Hansen sent Thu 26 May 2005:

You’ll find that Jeff is counting the minutes until he takes
delivery of his BRG VdP on Friday :slight_smile:

Kevin–
The original message included these comments:

look like a new car. Go for it! (You should also consult the X300
Book here on Jag-Lovers. That’s my car on the eBooks title page,


'96 Vanden Plas
Bothell, WA, United States
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In reply to a message from Kevin Campbell sent Thu 26 May 2005:

If you can afford the service & running costs I can’t fault it.

Pretty standard stuff that goes wrong (front brakes, shox, bushes,
sticky acelerator cable, timing chain rattle as time goes on…)

Bullet proof engine. Build quality much better than pre 90 years
Hard to find fault really for the money.–
97 XJ6 3.2 Exec … ummmm & It’s red
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