[x300] Steering Reach Cable Question

Having the whole dash out while replacing the evaporator, I
thought I would take a look at replacing my destroyed
steering reach cable.

My question is, why use this setup - a cable as opposed to a
rod?

My first thought was to provide some sort of ‘‘flex’’ so the
motor does not burn out if it reaches the end of the run.

But at some point the ‘‘flex’’ must end, right ?

For those of you with working telescoping steering, what
does the motor do (or sound like) at the end of the extent?

Thank you,
Lee Shelton–
95 XJ6 (US)
Memphis, TN, United States
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In reply to a message from Lee Shelton sent Tue 18 Jun 2013:

I guess I skipped the obvious reason being the ‘‘tilt’’ angle
would require a ‘‘sideways’’ flexibility, however, it appears
to me that the telescoping part is on the part of the column
that does not tilt up or down.
Thanks again.–
95 XJ6 (US)
Memphis, TN, United States
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In reply to a message from Lee Shelton sent Tue 18 Jun 2013:

The tilt has NOTHING to do with the reach. They are separate
drives.

Have you tried to install the motor with a rod???

It might work if the rod had ball ends to allow the
installation.

The motor ‘stabs’ into the plastic gearing at an angle and
then the motor is ‘clamped’ onto the column with plastic
retainers. The square drives on the flex shaft couple the
motor to the column and might provide some torque shock
control but the position sensor is needed to keep the motor
from ‘overdriving’.

I suspect that your sensor failed to stop the motor and the
resulting over toque broke the shaft or the plastic gearing.

That is what normally happens and simply replacing the flex
shaft will probably result in another broken part if the
sensor is not setup to stop electrically before mechanically
or the sensor fails (motor keeps driving/stalls until
something fails)

Turning the ‘AUTO’ feature to ‘OFF’’ and manually stopping
the column when the limit is reached will prevent the motor
from breaking something if the sensor fails.

If you do not want to ensure that the sensor is set (or you
don’t know how) then use manual setting ONLY!!!

The motor will not stop automatically if the sensor does NOT
tell it to!!!

bob gauff–
Bob Gauff Owning and Repairing Jaguars Since the Early 70’s
Decatur, TX., United States
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In reply to a message from motorcarman sent Wed 19 Jun 2013:

Good advice Bob!
The Auto feature is just for lazy people ;o)

Cheers,
Maximus–
The original message included these comments:

The tilt has NOTHING to do with the reach. They are separate
drives.
Turning the ‘AUTO’ feature to ‘OFF’’ and manually stopping
the column when the limit is reached will prevent the motor
from breaking something if the sensor fails.
If you do not want to ensure that the sensor is set (or you
don’t know how) then use manual setting ONLY!!!
The motor will not stop automatically if the sensor does NOT
tell it to!!!
Bob Gauff Owning and Repairing Jaguars Since the Early 70’s


Max Heazlewood '98XJ8http://www.pbase.com/padme002/jj_jag_1
Tasmania, Australia
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In reply to a message from Exjay8 sent Wed 19 Jun 2013:

Well it’s working okay with a rod - nail actually.

I used a hammer and file to square up the ends.

So far working okay for about a week.

I’ve had the car since 2005 and it was broken when I got it.

Thanks to the forum for all the info through out the years.–
95 XJ6 (US)
Memphis, TN, United States
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In reply to a message from Lee Shelton sent Sat 22 Jun 2013:

Necessity the mother of invention eh ;o))

Maximus–
The original message included these comments:

Well it’s working okay with a rod - nail actually.
I used a hammer and file to square up the ends.
So far working okay for about a week.
I’ve had the car since 2005 and it was broken when I got it.
Thanks to the forum for all the info through out the years.
95 XJ6 (US)
Memphis, TN, United States


Max Heazlewood '98XJ8http://www.pbase.com/padme002/jj_jag_1
Tasmania, Australia
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Does someone have a 3D printer and can make these cables. I am sure you could make a little money. At least enough to pay for the printer. I think that the cable that they use is stupid. I understand some of the reasoning but I have “twisted” two already and don’t want to pay another 60 for another one. I like the nail option but getting the size exact is a problem. I would think that a 3d printer would be perfect. You could also get some flexibility in the cable if needed and use a material that if it gets too much torque it snaps.

http://www.coventrywest.com/store/jaguar-xk8-xkr-reach-motor-cable-jlm12187.html

http://www.jagbits.com/product/JLM12187-CABLE.html

http://xks.com/i-7146665-jaguar-reach-cable-x300-xj-6-xj-8-xk8-steering-column-ja-jlm12187cable.html

No need to recreate it as it is readily available from most of the usuals.

I thought most 3D printers available ( affordable - ha! ) used plastic? But the plastic in this application should be very firm / hard. The nail option I used was actually too soft and the square ends got rounded after 2 years. When I go back in for this I am thinking of using a harder rod - something with more carbon content like a drill bit.
Also I have a small welder this time, so maybe I build up the ends…

I noticed that the motor runs and when it reaches the end, the rounded ends started a “popping” noise. Maybe that’s a good “failure” point like you mentioned so it doesn’t hurt the motor?