[x300] Value of X300 cars in the near and further-out future?

Hi all

I was watching an epidode of ‘‘What’s your Car Worth’’ and the fella
had a V-12 E-type with an auto tranny and big rubber bumper thingys
hanging off the bonnet. Still, painted a nice BRG, the car was
worth 50k US. I’m wondering. There are a few Jags that don’t seem
to hold their value and the X300 seems to be one of them. Why? I
can’t figure it out. Why do the X120s and e-type, and saloons all
have such high intrinsic value while these pretty rare X300 cars
seem to plummet in value, never to recover. Or, will the one day
recover and I’m just missing it? Mine is pristine white, 1997 Long
fuselage. It’s stunning in the rain and always turns heads. It’s
uber comfortable and roomy. IT has the quintencential Jaguar look
wtih two rounded lights in the wings and sweeping curves
everywhere. Yet, the last of the 1997s are going for 3000 quid or
maybe 6000 US with low miles?

Will these cars ever escalate in price like their older bretheren?
Inquiring minds need to know!

Rome–
'97 XJ6 L
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If you can get $6000 for an X300 your a better man than me. Try $3k. The v12 versions (x305?) seem to bring good money…$6-8k.

They just aren’t that old. Buy and horde:)

-John

In reply to a message from Cabinetman sent Fri 3 Aug 2012:

Here in the UK even the late 1997 XJR’s don’t fetch much and
they are pretty rare now, see (he’ll be very lucky to get
anything near the asking price!):

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C267630

As John has suggested, Mothball your’s and see what happens
in 30 years time, E Types and X120 are 40 or many more years
old now and are rarer than hen’s teeth.–
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everywhere. Yet, the last of the 1997s are going for 3000 quid or
maybe 6000 US with low miles?
Will these cars ever escalate in price like their older bretheren?


Neil 70 '97 3.2S http://www.jag-lovers.org/v.htm?1242166704
MALDON, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from Neil Maldon sent Sat 4 Aug 2012:

Umm, expensive for top end examples but not rare.There are
14,500 just on one current database. XKs are a bit rarer
and dearer as I’m unfortunately finding out. Might be time
to invest in another X300…–
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I agree.

The only plus I see in this car is the color…a die-hard XJR/6 guy might be
drawn to it, what with it being a bit unusual. Not sure that this would add
monetary value but it might make a person select this car over a similar
example in a common color.

Here’s in the 'States, at least, a non-black XJR is a rare sight.

Cheers
Doug Dwyer
Longview Washington USA
1995 XJRFrom: “Neil Maldon” neil_waveley@btinternet.com

(he’ll be very lucky to get
anything near the asking price!):

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C267630

Me too Doug. Mines white actually, but I’d buy it just for fender
mounted tool kit mine did not come with one, is it only Brits who are
expected to fix them at the side of the road?
Griff 97 XJR6

Doug Dwyer wrote:> I agree.

The only plus I see in this car is the color…a die-hard XJR/6 guy
might be drawn to it, what with it being a bit unusual. Not sure that
this would add monetary value but it might make a person select this
car over a similar example in a common color.

Here’s in the 'States, at least, a non-black XJR is a rare sight.

Cheers
Doug Dwyer
Longview Washington USA
1995 XJR

From: “Neil Maldon” neil_waveley@btinternet.com

(he’ll be very lucky to get
anything near the asking price!):

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C267630

In reply to a message from Richard Griffiths sent Sat 4 Aug 2012:

WEll, thanks to your links, I now realize what my XJ6 is missing!
I had no idea a tool box was fitted in that storage compartment on
the right wing. Cool. Now that’s going to give me something else
to search for!

Rome–
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In reply to a message from Doug Dwyer sent Sat 4 Aug 2012:

Hey Doug, you must have seen that colour before, just take a look
at my signature line. IMHO it’s the best XJ colour but, I may be
biased:-)>–
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I agree.
The only plus I see in this car is the color…a die-hard XJR/6 guy might be
drawn to it, what with it being a bit unusual. Not sure that this would add
Doug Dwyer
Longview Washington USA
1995 XJR


Gary 4.0V8 http://www.jag-lovers.org/v.htm?1253292792
London, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from Cabinetman sent Sun 5 Aug 2012:

Rome

I think the wing (fender) tools were another ‘‘optional
extra’’ in the UK - so not all will have them this side of
the pond!

I have seen complete new kits for sale on UK eBay - though
none there now.

Best wishes from Jim Butterworth
http://jimbutterworth.co.uk/

What I need is an exact list of specific unknown problems we
might, or might not, encounter–
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I had no idea a tool box was fitted in that storage compartment on
the right wing. Cool. Now that’s going to give me something else
to search for!


1995 3.2 Sport - www.jag-lovers.org/v.htm?id=1320795768
Somerset, United Kingdom
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Rome,

Owning a cross-section of Jaguars, I can correct you on one point and answer
the others. As far as the saloons go, the only model that has really held
its value is Mark 2. Other ones may appear to have some value, but it’s
nowhere near the cost to restore one. That’s why the sage advice to buyers
of all post-war Jaguar saloons is to buy the best one you can afford,
because you won’t be able to restore it for the price. Sportscars of all
sorts tend to hold their value better because they’re fun to drive, fun to
look at, and fun to be seen in. But even they suffer a pretty severe drop in
value after they roll off the lot.

Take the XK series, one of which I’m fortunate enough to own. As 50-60 year
old cars go, they aren’t that scarce because they’ve always been desirable,
even if it was by a high school kid looking for a sweet ride. 15 years after
XKs went out of production, you could pick them up for a song. If you can
find some old classifieds from the late '60s, $500 would get you an OK
example. E-types were going for more at the end of the 70s, partly due to
inflation, but partly because it was an iconic design.

Every car, no matter the marque or model, goes through a phase where it’s
just an old car, before it becomes collectible.

“Mark 1” Mark Stephenson Phoenix, AZ
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From: owner-x300@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-x300@jag-lovers.org] On Behalf
Of Cabinetman
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:25 PM
To: x300@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [x300] Value of X300 cars in the near and further-out future?

Hi all

I was watching an epidode of ‘‘What’s your Car Worth’’ and the fella had a
V-12 E-type with an auto tranny and big rubber bumper thingys hanging off
the bonnet. Still, painted a nice BRG, the car was worth 50k US. I’m
wondering. There are a few Jags that don’t seem to hold their value and the
X300 seems to be one of them. Why? I can’t figure it out. Why do the X120s
and e-type, and saloons all have such high intrinsic value while these
pretty rare X300 cars seem to plummet in value, never to recover. Or, will
the one day recover and I’m just missing it? Mine is pristine white, 1997
Long fuselage. It’s stunning in the rain and always turns heads. It’s uber
comfortable and roomy. IT has the quintencential Jaguar look wtih two
rounded lights in the wings and sweeping curves everywhere. Yet, the last
of the 1997s are going for 3000 quid or maybe 6000 US with low miles?

Will these cars ever escalate in price like their older bretheren?
Inquiring minds need to know!

Rome

'97 XJ6 L
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In reply to a message from Neil Maldon sent Sat 4 Aug 2012:

I see a used 97 XJR6 auto for sale with 68k asking less than 3000
pounds in the link- but what value would readers attach if it was a
sought-after manual gearbox XJR6 version, one of the 103 units
produced for the UK?

Clarkson’s March 1995 test against M5 and AMG Merc (which I have a
copy of) had it making 60 in 5.7 secs against M5’s 5.5 secs but he
discovered that XJR6 ‘crushed the M5 for in gear performance’

Do you think the jag-lovers’ hot passion on the XJR6 (esp XJR6
manual) has disappeared into the mists of time and fuel prices?
The new Jaguar diesels can accelerate as fast in 2012… if you
have the dosh to buy one.–
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Kent, United Kingdom
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Hard to say.

The XJR/6 is an under-recognized and under-appreciated model. I certainly
love mine.

In my case, at least, the old girl IS showing her age in all respects. I’m
not presently in a position to spend money on major refurbishments (such as
sorely needed new paint) but am keeping steady on ordinary repairs and
upkeep. I’m really not sure what to do with it. It has no market value to
speak of…maybe $3500-4000. I’m just nursing her along at this point.

Jaguar has discontinued most of the XJR-specific parts. Engine overhaul
parts for any version of the AJ16 (pistons, rings, bearings) are virtually
non-existent anywhere.

I dunno. The XJR/6 is a bit of a white elephant in the grand scheme of
things.

If I decide that a XJR/6 simply must remain in my future I’d probably be
better off (easier and cheaper) to sell mine for whatever I can get and put
the money towards a low mileage “minter”. That would take some searching but
I’m sure there are a few out there.

Ramble switch “off”

Doug Dwyer
Longview Washington USA
1995 XJRFrom: “Ant XJR” as@shepherdinternational.com

Do you think the jag-lovers’ hot passion on the XJR6 (esp XJR6
manual) has disappeared into the mists of time and fuel prices?
The new Jaguar diesels can accelerate as fast in 2012… if you
have the dosh to buy one.

In reply to a message from Cabinetman sent Fri 3 Aug 2012:

My prediction is that several of these cars will eventually
appreciate a little bit, though never to the point of an XKE
or '120, or even a Mk 2.
In order:

  1. XJR-6 manual transmission
  2. 1996 Daimler Double-six/XJ12 with rear seat package
  3. XJR-8

The manual XJR-6 will have value because it is, like the
other X300s, good looking and timeless with the added value
of being very comfortable and very fast. The manual
transmission makes it very rare, and those are the three
things that make a classic valuable.

The long wheelbase DD6 and XJ12 with the rear seat package
will have some value because they are rare, they have a V12
and because of the spec they are extremely posh cars. I’m
told that in some parts of the world gentlemen are still
seen being chauffeured in a Silver Clouds, a 6.3/6.9 or
Citroen DS. Despite not being ‘‘new’’ and ‘‘expensive’’
(relatively) they have something else - supreme elegance.

The XJR-8 will be popular because it is so, so fast.

My predictions…–
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Will these cars ever escalate in price like their older bretheren?


Chris Los 1973 XJ6, 1994 XJ12, 1996 XJ12
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