[x300] XJ6 Executive 1997 starting problems

Hi, My name is Derek and I have just got a very nice jag

Its the 3.2 xj6 on a p plate

It seems to start ok and run fine but if I park it when hot its pot
luck wether it will start or not

It seems to turn over fine but will not fire atall

If you then leave it for about an hour it will start fine and run
for hours with no problem

It did this on the first day I got the car and ended up geting it
towed home then as soon as it was of the truck it started fine !!

Has any one go any ideas? I am thinking it may have a fuel pump or
realay fault but I am new to jag’s and not sure where to look or
how to test

Thanks in advance

Derek–
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Hi, My name is Derek and I have just got a very nice jag

Its the 3.2 xj6 on a p plate

It seems to start ok and run fine but if I park it when hot its pot
luck wether it will start or not

sounds like vapour lock to me? (this worked on my Ser III XJ so I
guess it’s worth a try) Put the tranny it in anything but P or N and
turn the ignition key as if you were starting it. The fuel pump will
run but the engine won’t crank. Fresh (cold) fuel will circulate if
you do this for awhile (say 15 secs or so). Then try starting it and
see what happens.

good luck,–
Arnoud

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In reply to a message from stagcar sent Sun 30 Apr 2006:

when you crank it and it wont start do you smell gas? if you dont
smell gas its most likely a fueling issue. repl the fuel pump relay
in the trunk under the floor. if you do smell gas its a spark
issue. pajtas–
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In reply to a message from pajtas sent Mon 1 May 2006:

Hi,

Thanks for your responses most apreciated

I think it is fuel as I cant smell it at all

I will check it out next time it goes wrong

Thanks

Derek–
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In reply to a message from stagcar sent Sun 30 Apr 2006:

Derek,

Had a similar issue on an AJ6 engine - I guess your 3.2 is
the same mechanically. Found that, when hot, the fuel system
was not maintaining the ‘hold pressure’ in the fuel rail
when the engine was shut down, ready to facilitate the next
start. That usually is attributable to a faulty fuel
pressure regulator or a defective non-return valve in the
outlet from the fuel pump, either of which will allow the
fuel to return to / drain back to the tank.

The rapid loss of fuel pressure in the fuel rail (mine
dropped from 40 + psi to zero in a few seconds) coupled with
the increasing heat in the engine when it is first shut
down, causes a sort of ‘vapour lock’ when the fuel ‘boils’.

You can determine if that is the case on your car by
employing the ‘key cycling trick’. When you anticipate a
hot-start problem, turn the ignition ON-OFF-ON five or six
times in rapid succession WITHOUT engaging the starter until
doing so immediately after the final ‘ON’.

That procedure takes advantage of the half-second priming
burst from the fuel pump that occurs every time you turn on
the ignition, and multiple priming bursts will generate
enough pressure in the fuel rail (if you are quick!) to
start the engine, which will then continue to run OK.

If that procedure cures the problem, you need to get the
fuel pressure checked to determine which component (the
regulator or the pump) is faulty. If you need the method,
let me know and I will e-mail it off list.–
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Its the 3.2 xj6 on a p plate
It seems to start ok and run fine but if I park it when hot its pot
luck wether it will start or not
It seems to turn over fine but will not fire atall
If you then leave it for about an hour it will start fine and run
for hours with no problem


Bryan N, '91 Sovereign 4.0 L, (RHD)
Cambridge, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from stagcar sent Sun 30 Apr 2006:

There is a TSB for the X300’s concerning the fuel tank pressure
control valve allowing the tank to overpressurize when running.
When you restart before the pressure has had a chance to diminish,
the additional pressure actually floods the engine at start up by
allowing too much fuel to exit the injector during its open pulse.
If you know where it is, test the valve by seeing if it will hold
vacuum, otherwise, remind your technician about the TSB.–
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It seems to start ok and run fine but if I park it when hot its pot
luck wether it will start or not
It seems to turn over fine but will not fire atall
If you then leave it for about an hour it will start fine and run
for hours with no problem


Brian Caro 96XJ6 4.0 63E-TypeS1FHC
Newport News, VA, United States
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In reply to a message from Brian Caro sent Mon 1 May 2006:

Hi, thanks for all the great responses on this

I think it was down to the fuel pump relay I swaped it with the
heated rear window relay and it hasent happend since.

But time will tell

Thanks again
Derek–
stagcar
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