[xj] 88 SIII V12 VdP on eBay

I haven’t done it, but my understanding is that once a car is 25 years old
or older, it is much easier to import. 1988+25=2003, so that may work to
its advantage.

Phil

In reply to a message from nwjag sent Thu 19 Jun 2003:

This appears to be a Canadian car…but the owner says he can
export it to the US. If so, it may be worthwhile, but given all
I’ve read, this isn’t that easy to do.

Anyone have more info?

d

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Here’s an importable Series III V12 for those folks in the States which may
be interested. (NAYYY)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2419996963&cat
egory=6278
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Jamie Duffey - Everett, WA
88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne
Jaguar Owner’s North American Tour - http://jonat.org
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004
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In reply to a message from nwjag sent Thu 19 Jun 2003:

This appears to be a Canadian car…but the owner says he can
export it to the US. If so, it may be worthwhile, but given all
I’ve read, this isn’t that easy to do.

Anyone have more info?

d–
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Jamie -

Call it my suspicious mind, if you like, but…

The same seller listed another 88 V12 VdP a short while back:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2417968223&category=6278

This one failed to meet its reserve with a high bid of $6,500. Both
cars have a virtually identical and inadequate condition description
("mint condition, one owner (non-smoker), still smells new, " etc.)
All of which could be true, although the two cars have wildly
different claimed mileages - 21K in the case of the current one, 102K
in the case of the previous auction…

But the very odd thing is that both cars have been - forgive the
expression, but it fits, IMO - “tarted up” with identical wood-rim
steering wheels, identical after-market gear shift knobs, (both ugly
IMO…) and identical stainless wheel arch trim and sill covers. I’m
not a fan of either of these embellishments, and, more importantly,
they tend to make me suspect that there is something under them that
a potential buyer would be put off by…

I do wonder why both of these cars have the same after-market
embellishments. I think other Canadian listers will agree that
Montreal is probably not the best place to find rust free Jaguars,
though the 21K mile car should certainly not have any such issues if
it was at all well cared for…

And the current car has wire wheels, despite what the listing say
about “alloys” - 60-spokers at that…

Hmmm…

I’m going to email the seller and I will report back if I hear
anything significant. Do we have any active listers in the Montreal
area?

Cheers,
Loudon-
85 VdP6, Josephine, 79K miles
86 V12 VdP, Gypsy, 130K kms

At 04:37 -0700 6/19/03, nwjag wrote:>Here’s an importable Series III V12 for those folks in the States which may

be interested. (NAYYY)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2419996963&cat
egory=6278

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Sure, I have lots more information. Yes, in theory an 88 V12 car can be
exported to the US (as can an 89). But there is something fishy about this
one. First, it is a Montreal car. That means salt and rust.
Montreal-Ottawa-Toronto-London - the rust centre of Canada (apologies to Bob
Higgs, who has found some magnificent and exceptional cars in that area)
Yes, there are exceptions to that, and this car is claimed to have very low
odometer reading. But look closely. It is claimed to be a one-owner car.
This is the first one -owner Jaguar I have ever seen which has been tarted
up. First owners of the V12 Vanden Plas have a LOT of money. They are
generally middle age and older. Very few people in this demographic class
will put on the (factory discouraged) wire wheels on, or the wheel opening
chrome or a gigantic phallic leaper.
Now look at the rear deck: the badges are in the wrong place. The V12
badge particularly sits far too low. This car has been repainted; why? Rust?
an accident?
The car is claimed to have ABS. It doesn’t. The ABS system was not put on
until the end of 1991…so much for the car, which, if cheap enough could be
restored, de-tarted.
But again, the 88 car is exportable to the US in theory.
Gregory----- Original Message -----
From: “dtgolder” dtgolder@yahoo.com
To: xj@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [xj] 88 SIII V12 VdP on eBay

: In reply to a message from nwjag sent Thu 19 Jun 2003:
:
: This appears to be a Canadian car…but the owner says he can
: export it to the US. If so, it may be worthwhile, but given all
: I’ve read, this isn’t that easy to do.
:
: Anyone have more info?
:

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My favorite claim is that the car has anti-lock brakes. According to the
listing, it also has an automatic transmission and a spare tire! Imagine
that! And then there is the statement that a “new U.S.-manufactured
speedometer will be supplied and installed prior to delivery” for exported
cars. The proper speedo for these cars, new, is quite expensive and very
difficult to get. Something tells me that the speedo claim was a
boilerplate statement from the listing service. Buyer beware.

Regarding another point made, 2003 less 1988 is actually 15 years, not 25.

Jim

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To: “Gib” gib@freshwinds.ca, <@Phil_Bates>
From: @Phil_Bates
Subject: Re: [xj] 88 SIII V12 VdP on eBay
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:42:51 US/Mountain

Gib is right - I wasn’t thinking -I’m 10 years off - 1988 + 25 = 2013 -
sorry about that, but it is supposed to be easier to import a car 25
years
old or older. Guess that doesn’t help here.

Phil

Math.

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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: [xj] 88 SIII V12 VdP on eBay

I haven’t done it, but my understanding is that once a car is 25
years
old

or older, it is much easier to import. 1988+25=2003, so that may
work> to

its advantage.

Phil

In reply to a message from nwjag sent Thu 19 Jun 2003:

This appears to be a Canadian car…but the owner says he can
export it to the US. If so, it may be worthwhile, but given all
I’ve read, this isn’t that easy to do.

Anyone have more info?

d

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Jim: You make good points. Regarding the speedometer: First, Veglia does not
manufacture speedometers in the US. Their plant is located in Rugby,
England. Second, the only MPH speedometer that can be fitted to the Series
III V12 is the UK speedometer, which as you say, is expensive, VERY
expensive. A MPH speedometer for the US specification XJ6 will not work
properly.
This car is to be approached with extreme caution. I am quite sure that
it will bite the new owner in the derriere. The vendors are either
uninformed, or are intentionally misleading.----- Original Message -----
From: “James Frey” jmfrey@alltel.net
To: xj@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:32 AM
Subject: RE: [xj] 88 SIII V12 VdP on eBay

: My favorite claim is that the car has anti-lock brakes. According to the
: listing, it also has an automatic transmission and a spare tire! Imagine
: that! And then there is the statement that a “new U.S.-manufactured
: speedometer will be supplied and installed prior to delivery” for exported
: cars. The proper speedo for these cars, new, is quite expensive and
very
: difficult to get.

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In reply to a message from Dr Gregory Andrachuk sent Thu 19 Jun 2003:

No doubt it must be the SARS variety of the Andrachuk’disease. The
very sight of wire-wheels on a Series III takes the air out of your
lungs… Not to speak of the gear-knob!

Frans–
The original message included these comments:

generally middle age and older. Very few people in this demographic class
will put on the (factory discouraged) wire wheels on, or the wheel opening
chrome or a gigantic phallic leaper.


Frans Harkema 1985 XJ 6 Ser. III Sovereign
Valkenswaard, Netherlands
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