[xj] Anybody ever lumped a Chevy?

Forgive me for throwing out such a frivolous question, but
it occurs to me that if it’s so all-fired easy to stuff a
Chevy 350 into an XJ, it oughtta be relatively simple to pop
an XK engine into, say, a K-5 Blazer or a half-ton pickup.
Anybody ever tried it, or heard of it being done?

Cheers!

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In reply to a message from Finn J sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

I’ve seen a guy putting a jag V12 in a Camaro…just for the fun
of it.
He worked in a shop that was in business to install Lincoln Town Car
engines in Jags.
He thought it would be fun to reverse the process; it was probably
a perfectly good-running 12 !!
The owner of the shop was a friend of mine and is the one who gave
me my V12 when his girl friend drove it without oil and seized the
engine.
The 12 fit okay but there was body work involved, I remember that
much…
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it occurs to me that if it’s so all-fired easy to stuff a
Chevy 350 into an XJ, it oughtta be relatively simple to pop
an XK engine into, say, a K-5 Blazer or a half-ton pickup.
Anybody ever tried it, or heard of it being done?


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I guess the question would be WHY ???

Of course, that coming from a strictly RUM drinker…

dennis
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In reply to a message from Finn J sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

I’ve seen a guy putting a jag V12 in a Camaro…just for the fun
of it.
He worked in a shop that was in business to install Lincoln Town Car
engines in Jags.
He thought it would be fun to reverse the process; it was probably
a perfectly good-running 12 !!
The owner of the shop was a friend of mine and is the one who gave
me my V12 when his girl friend drove it without oil and seized the
engine.
The 12 fit okay but there was body work involved, I remember that
much…
Bill
'86 V12 vdP

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it occurs to me that if it’s so all-fired easy to stuff a
Chevy 350 into an XJ, it oughtta be relatively simple to pop
an XK engine into, say, a K-5 Blazer or a half-ton pickup.
Anybody ever tried it, or heard of it being done?


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Hi Tim,

Go clean your mouth: what a waste of such a nice engine;)
Actually, when I still had it I thought for a moment of sticking a
6.0 V12 in my '92 3/4 ton GMC Suburban. The transmissions are the
same (both are 4L80e) and the engine bay seems to be big enough. I
think it would have been a great improvement with 320hp rather than
the silly 180 coming from that 350HD engine. Mileage
shouldn’t/couldn’t have been much worse either;)
Car’s gone now tho, but I still have that spare V12;)
There is a guy that put a V12 in the front(!) of a Corvair. The link
must be in the archives somewhere since it was mentioned before.–
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In reply to a message from Arnoud sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

I’ve often thought that the xk6 motor would great in a boat,all
that torque would spin a good sized prop.
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There is a guy that put a V12 in the front(!) of a Corvair. The link
must be in the archives somewhere since it was mentioned before.


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In reply to a message from Arnoud sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

How about ab OM 352 Mercedes truck diesel into a 3/4 ton Chevy pick-
up? I had to cut the oil pan off and turn it around to make it fit.
It has been test driven from Alaska to Minnesota and back. 5.11
gears in the rear and a top speed of 69.6 mph which it did most of
the way even towing an R-2 Studebaker pick-up up the
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There’s a local hot rodder who uses a SIII rearend, with a 3.31 diff ratio,
and has a V12 sitting up front. I saw it a couple of years ago at my
jag-master’s place.
Ken
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Isn’t the V12 sometimes used in powerboats (which I know nothing about)?–
Justin Hill, Surrey UK
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On 22 Sep 2006, at 15:40, Jaggid wrote:

I’ve often thought that the xk6 motor would great in a boat

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Here’s the link to the article on that “Jaguair” V-12:

http://www.corvaircorsa.com/V-12-01.html

Best regards,

Gregory Wells 800-331-2193 x103
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In reply to a message from dennis sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

well…I said it was for the fun of it!
He was(is?) a renegade, working in a shop lumping jags, and he
thought it would be a poke in the eye and a flamboyant gesture
and ‘‘something different’’ I guess; I know a few lumps that were
done for just those reasons alone!!
It is not even fun for me to hope to keep it running up here ‘‘close
to the northpole’’ but different things are ‘‘easy & fun’’ for
different folks!
Don’t know if he enjoyed a good dram of Meyers on a rainy day, I
got the impression from the tatoos that he was more of
a ‘‘vegeterian’’!
Bill
(who takes scotch & jags ‘‘neat’’)–
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I guess the question would be WHY ???
Of course, that coming from a strictly RUM drinker…


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We have someone around here who put a Jag 12 in the front of a VW. Lots of
folks have done that with Chevy V8s too.–
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
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Wm de Creeft wrote:

In reply to a message from dennis sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

well…I said it was for the fun of it!
He was(is?) a renegade, working in a shop lumping jags, and he
thought it would be a poke in the eye and a flamboyant gesture
and ‘‘something different’’ I guess; I know a few lumps that were
done for just those reasons alone!!
It is not even fun for me to hope to keep it running up here ‘‘close
to the northpole’’ but different things are ‘‘easy & fun’’ for
different folks!
Don’t know if he enjoyed a good dram of Meyers on a rainy day, I
got the impression from the tatoos that he was more of
a ‘‘vegeterian’’!
Bill
(who takes scotch & jags ‘‘neat’’)

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In reply to a message from Finn J sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

Well, I’m in the process of doing just that.
'69 Chevy 1/2 ton with V-12 and complete Jag suspension. Anything
out of the Jag interior is going in too…plus a retractable
hardtop.
Why? because I can…LOL

Regards
Dave

86 SIII XJ6
85 SIII XJ6
74 SII XJ6
70 SI XJ6
69 Chevy truck
70 Chevy truck for mock up
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In reply to a message from Finn J sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

I think it was a Chevrolet 3/4 ton. It may have been a Ford. At one
time a company named Railway Express used 3/4 ton Fords & chevrolet
trucks. A carrier box was installed from the cab back in milk truck
style. I believe the colord were green & red with black hood &
fenders. Upon the demise of the company many were sold off.

I recall seeing one at a swap meat. It was emblazoned with the
livery of a local independant Jaguar repair garage. Of course, the
hood was up at the swap meet to display a well detailed DOHC 6 in
the engine bay!

Here is a reverse ‘‘lump’’. I also read the V12 Corvair thread with
great interest as a variety of corvairs have found their abode in
my garage. When Mr. Nader started expounding on Corvairs, I decided
it must be a good car. Our VW convertibe was a great car, but a bit
crowded. I decidec a four speed Monza Coupe would be a suitable
replacement. It was!. It looked good, ran great, got good mileage
and was fun to drive. Several others followed, to include a 180HP
psuedo Corsa. And now I have a great 83 XJ6 ‘‘lump’’.

My Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo handles ther mundane chores. It is a
fun car in it’s own non obstrusive way.

lumped 83 Jaguar XJ6 Grosvenor brown & biscuit
Silver metallic Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo. Strong and tight at
206K

Walnut Creek, California

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Forgive me for throwing out such a frivolous question, but
it occurs to me that if it’s so all-fired easy to stuff a
Chevy 350 into an XJ, it oughtta be relatively simple to pop
an XK engine into, say, a K-5 Blazer or a half-ton pickup.
Anybody ever tried it, or heard of it being done?
Cheers!


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Excellent! You can also say it’s a Chevy pickup with a Jag engine and an
Aston-Martin rear end.
:]–
Alex
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DrDaves49 wrote:

In reply to a message from Finn J sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

Well, I’m in the process of doing just that.
'69 Chevy 1/2 ton with V-12 and complete Jag suspension. Anything
out of the Jag interior is going in too…plus a retractable
hardtop.
Why? because I can…LOL

Regards
Dave

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I believe that someone in the Britain put a V12 into a Triumph TR7 a few years ago. I can tell you that it wouldn’t be very good on ice.

Dirk Roorda----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:25:59 PM
Subject: Re: [xj] Anybody ever lumped a Chevy?

We have someone around here who put a Jag 12 in the front of a VW. Lots of
folks have done that with Chevy V8s too.

Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
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Wm de Creeft wrote:

In reply to a message from dennis sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

well…I said it was for the fun of it!
He was(is?) a renegade, working in a shop lumping jags, and he
thought it would be a poke in the eye and a flamboyant gesture
and ‘‘something different’’ I guess; I know a few lumps that were
done for just those reasons alone!!
It is not even fun for me to hope to keep it running up here ‘‘close
to the northpole’’ but different things are ‘‘easy & fun’’ for
different folks!
Don’t know if he enjoyed a good dram of Meyers on a rainy day, I
got the impression from the tatoos that he was more of
a ‘‘vegeterian’’!
Bill
(who takes scotch & jags ‘‘neat’’)

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In reply to a message from Dirk Roorda sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

Dirk,

A limited slip differential would help a lot (as would the right
driving technique - visualizing yourself driving barefoot with an
uncooked egg between your foot and the pedal). A proper set of
tires also goes a long way.

Ken–
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I believe that someone in the Britain put a V12 into a Triumph TR7 a few years ago. I can tell you that it wouldn’t be very good on ice.


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We’ve (a club member) has a Mk2 with a V12 in it, just for fun. The work
involved reminded me of a Great Dane and terrier.

Fazal----- Original Message -----
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Go clean your mouth: what a waste of such a nice engine;)
Actually, when I still had it I thought for a moment of sticking a 6.0 V12
in my '92 3/4 ton GMC Suburban. The transmissions are the same (both are
4L80e) and the engine bay seems to be big enough. I think it would have
been a great improvement with 320hp rather than the silly 180 coming from
that 350HD engine. Mileage shouldn’t/couldn’t have been much worse
either;)
Car’s gone now tho, but I still have that spare V12;)
There is a guy that put a V12 in the front(!) of a Corvair. The link must
be in the archives somewhere since it was mentioned before.

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In reply to a message from Gregory Wells sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

This V-12 Corvair project is astounding!! Here I am almost
(nay- totaly) intimidated by my upcoming project of removing
rebuilding the rear axle on my 86 XJ-6 and was almost
whipped installing a new thermostat in my 87 last year. I
take it this Jay guy would have done both these projects
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There is a guy that put a V12 in the front(!) of a Corvair. The link


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In reply to a message from TennesseeJim sent Sat 23 Sep 2006:

A bit of an aside. When I went to college, this guy had
some sort of Volvo sedan, forget what type, but a rather
modest one. Apparently he and his dad dropped a small block
V8 Chevy motor in it, forgive my ignorance if I don’t know
the specs on that one.

Point is, it looked the same from the outside, but he had
fun blowing other cars off the road :)–
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In reply to a message from Justin Hill sent Fri 22 Sep 2006:

Yes! But it was the Allison Or Merlin V12 used on the famed WWII
North American Mustang P51.

Much bigger and turbocharged as well. Very strong!

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