[xj] Boot Locking

I take the point about keeping the sump clean…It was all the crud
that was keeping things warm, as Harold Orlando pointed out! WTH, it
worked!

It’s interesting to read the threads about boot (trunk) locking. This
feature (hey, why don’t we promote this bug as a feature!) exists on my
car, and it is something I intend to deal with as soon as I can summon
up the courage to let someone lock me in the boot so that I can see what
happens!

As far as I can gather, this state of affairs exists so that you could
lock all your valuables in the boot when visiting a mechanic or hotel
and just leave “the servants” with the one key which would only operate
the doors and ignition…most British cars of the sixties had two or
three keys. The Daimler had two, my Rover P6B has three: Doors, Boot &
Petrol filler and ignition. The Jaguar also has three, although the
ignition key works the doors and ignition, the one that works the boot
also does the petrol fillers…I’ve yet to find out what the third one
does. (I know, RTFM :-)) . Curious that now most cars “feature” one
master key…have the servants become more trustworthy ?? :wink:

Cheers,

Rick

At 10:03 29-07-98 +1000, Rick Ashworth wrote:

As far as I can gather, this state of affairs exists so that you could
lock all your valuables in the boot when visiting a mechanic or hotel
and just leave “the servants” with the one key which would only operate

My Buick has two keys - doors+ignition (so you can get in and drive), plus
glovebox+trunk (so you can store valuables that the valet cannot access -
or, you could provide such a key to the bellboy to fetch luggage, but not
drive the vehicle).

Most newer cars have lost touch with this logical arrangement, and now you
need to give BOTH keys to the valet if they are to secure your auto and
re-enter it. Alas, even with both keys, it seems most valets (at least in
the San Francisco region) don’t - some even leave the keys in the ignition,
as I found that the Altamira Hotel in Sausalito does - so they can pack
cars in deep and move/re-move/move-again cars to access other ones - yikes!

LOGICALLY, there should be a key which gets you in the doors, the glovebox,
and the trunk (so someone can get stuff out of the car, but can’t drive
it), and another that gets you in the doors and the ignition (valet).

Seems that those “dimpled” high-security keys would make a lot of sense
here - any given lock would act on one set of pits in the key, and all the
locks would be independant of each other (looking for pits in different
locations on the key) - “keying alike” would simply be cutting a key coded
for the pits required by each of the locks. Thus, IF you wanted it, you
could have a key made which ONLY opens the boot, but not the glovebox or
the cabin, OR you could have a key that does everything - or something in
between. I know I would like to have a key in my pocket that is the ONLY
key I’d need.

BTW - when I go somewhere I expect to use a valet, I bring along a spare
set of keys - I NEVER leave my only on-hand set with the valet.

Cripe - the technology is here, and there ARE several technologies to
choose from (ignition for example could still utilize something like the
electronic chips found on some newer vehicles - to drive, one can assume
you’ll need power, whereas it wouldn’t be appropriate to drive the door or
boot locks by a system requiring electricity since if your battery were
flat, you’d be locked out, unable to correct the situation).

Automobile makers seem to like to pride themselves in innovation, but they
seem to consistently overlook the basic stuff.

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As far as I can gather, this state of affairs exists so that you could
lock all your valuables in the boot when visiting a mechanic or hotel
and just leave “the servants” with the one key …

I think not, as that key also opens the boot!

It’s arranged as it is to ensure you can only open the
boot with the key. Otherwise any passing villain can
smash a window or use a “slim jim”, slide the door
lock lever, and you’re boot’s unlocked. About 10 seconds
work, at a guess.

If you do arrange electic unlocking of the boot, don’t
leave valuables in it!

I think the glove compartment has a different key to
the rest. But as I don’t have one, I can’t be sure!

Paul Gover