[xj] Fresh Air Hose in Fender

Greetings,

In the process of rejuvenating my 85 series III, new paint, new carpet, dash wood, upholstery, etc. In preparation for repainting I am in the process of stripping the car down to bare metal…upon removing the front fenders I found what appears to be fresh air vent hoses (see: http://tinyurl.com/d7mq48u ).

What exactly am I dealing with here? Is this a special diameter flex hose that needs to be ordered via a Jaguar parts house, or am I served just as well by finding something locally? How do I reattach this hose to the body leading to the cabin? It appears to currently be attached by some type of black tar, glue, etc.? Suggestions, advice, counseling and reprimands where warranted appreciated. Thank you.

John B.
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John: you can safely disregard this hose entirely - it is uselessly redundant (repetition intended). This hose was fitted to every body, taking air in from the screen above the headlamp but was useful only on the non-climate controlled cars because those without climate control had a fresh air vent in the footwell. On your car and on every other car with AC made after 1981 this vent has been blocked off behind the footwell trim panel. You can simply discard the hose if you like. It goes nowhere.

Gregory
Victoria, Canada-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xj@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-xj@jag-lovers.org] On Behalf Of John Bowes
Sent: June-06-12 2:54 PM
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Subject: [xj] Fresh Air Hose in Fender

Greetings,

In the process of rejuvenating my 85 series III, new paint, new carpet, dash wood, upholstery, etc. In preparation for repainting I am in the process of stripping the car down to bare metal…upon removing the front fenders I found what appears to be fresh air vent hoses (see: http://tinyurl.com/d7mq48u ).

What exactly am I dealing with here? Is this a special diameter flex hose that needs to be ordered via a Jaguar parts house, or am I served just as well by finding something locally? How do I reattach this hose to the body leading to the cabin? It appears to currently be attached by some type of black tar, glue, etc.? Suggestions, advice, counseling and reprimands where warranted appreciated. Thank you.

John B.

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In reply to a message from Dr Gregory Andrachuk sent Wed 6 Jun 2012:

‘‘You can simply discard the hose if you like. It goes nowhere.’’

And Jaguar sure got in trouble for fitting it when they had
financial problems after wasting money and wanted a govt.
bailout. ‘‘The hose to nowhere’’ it was called IIRC.

:slight_smile:

BTW, some folks retrofit the working vents from S1 or S2
cars to restore function to the hose. If you want to
replace it, any 2 inch duct (hose) will do. The original is
aluminum–same as the ducts that run through the console to
the rear AC/heat outlet.–
Bob Wilkinson, 73 XJ6
Saint Louis, MO, United States
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In reply to a message from Robert Wilkinson sent Wed 6 Jun 2012:

Hey John…

To second what Robert said, I’ve supplied quite a few series 3
owners with all of the necessary stuff to add the fresh air vents.
They were standard in the XJ6 up until 81, then they were
discontinued. But, there is a blanking plate under the foot well
cover that can be removed, the pull type vents added (from the
early cars) for the addition of a little fresh air…

Cheers!
David
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The original message included these comments:

BTW, some folks retrofit the working vents from S1 or S2
cars to restore function to the hose. If you want to
replace it, any 2 inch duct (hose) will do. The original is
aluminum–same as the ducts that run through the console to
the rear AC/heat outlet.


84 XJ6 (Driver) 89 XJS Convertable… Parts cars piling up.
Rockwell, NC, United States
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In reply to a message from DavidBoger sent Wed 6 Jun 2012:

David:

Not to punch a hole in your canoe. Adding a fresh air vent sounds
cool. I’d possinly go for it if I wanted to dig in some more. I
don’t!

But, it seems to me that the intake over the lights was not
Jaguar’s best thinking. In traffic, that is just about where the
exhaust pipe/s are on the car ahead. solution, drive faster, no
cars ahead, just fresh undisturbed air.

Morning cup of black coffee a bit strong!!

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The original message included these comments:

To second what Robert said, I’ve supplied quite a few series 3
owners with all of the necessary stuff to add the fresh air vents.
They were standard in the XJ6 up until 81, then they were
discontinued. But, there is a blanking plate under the foot well
cover that can be removed, the pull type vents added (from the
early cars) for the addition of a little fresh air…


Carl Hutchins 1983 Jaguar XJ6 with LT1 and 1994 Jeep Grand
Walnut Creek, California, United States
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John: you can safely disregard this hose entirely -
it is uselessly redundant (repetition intended).
This hose was fitted to every body, taking air in
from the screen above the headlamp but was useful
only on the non-climate controlled cars because those
without climate control had a fresh air vent in the footwell.

Thanks for the quick response Gregory…if I mess with it,
I’ll be sure to restore it back to its fully redundantly useless state! :slight_smile:

From: “Robert Wilkinson” wilk@wustl.edu
And Jaguar sure got in trouble for fitting it when they had
financial problems after wasting money and wanted a govt.
bailout. ‘‘The hose to nowhere’’ it was called IIRC.

…funny…I like the way you think brother Robert! :slight_smile:

Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:18:13 -0700
From: “DavidBoger” davidteriboger@aol.com
To second what Robert said, I’ve supplied quite a few series 3
owners with all of the necessary stuff to add the fresh air vents.

Thanks David…I’ll keep that in mind, and perhaps chat with you off list.

Appreciate the information and this list greatly!
Warm blessings,
John B.
Kansas---- XJ Digest owner-xj-digest@jag-lovers.org wrote:

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In reply to a message from John Bowes sent Wed 6 Jun 2012:

John, my '80 XJ6 has climate control and a working air vent on each
side of the passenger compartment. As noted, the air source is
through the little screen at the top of the the outer headlamp trim
ring.

The control is a simple push to close, pull to open rod. I use
this fresh air system often with only one complaint. The cool
(sometimes cold) air leaks through a bit even when in the closed
position and in the winter can be annoying. I’ve given up trying
to find out why the driver’s side ‘closed’ isn’t, but to no avail.–
The original message included these comments:

In the process of rejuvenating my 85 series III, new paint, new carpet, dash wood, upholstery, etc. In preparation for repainting I am in the process of stripping the car down to bare metal…upon removing the front fenders I found what appears to be fresh air vent hoses (see: http://tinyurl.com/d7mq48u ).


Bruce Hugo '80 XJ6 SIII
St. Helens, OR, United States
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This is a old post that I found while doing a search.I removed the panels behind the front tires and it was packed with mouse nests. The duct hose was broken off where it connects to the duct. I noticed the duct is non functional because it’s sealed off. I read you can eliminate those hoses since they do nothing. The car was sitting for about 10 years in a unheated garage before I bought it about a year ago, my garage is unheated also. My question is should I just remove those duct hoses since they do nothing? I wanted to replace the drivers side leaper emblem, but I realized afterwards I didn’t need to remove the panel to do so. So hopefully by removing the duct hose that won’t happen again. Any advice is appreciated.

I wouldn’t bother but you probably can. I‘m assuming that water can drain from the A pillar and there is no space where it would collect. Even though they’re useless this is the way they built them.

Thanks David for the reply. I’m sure the water from the A pillar can drain now since I removed the mouse nest. The drain holes were blocked before so I’m glad I discovered that before the bottom of the fenders rusted out. I may replace the ducts, I’m not sure yet.