[xj] front seat removal

Anyone know of an easy way to get the front bolts out on a series
III seats? they look just about imposible to get to.
Thanx
Mike–
(2)1985 XJ6’s &1983&84 parts cars/ 1969 Cessna 172 K
gardnerville nv., United States
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In reply to a message from low ufo sent Fri 18 Apr 2008:

Take the seat cushion off first (one posizdrive screw) then
manoeuvre the seat fully forward to undo the rear bolts. Once the
bolt is moving I find my quarter inch drive socket can get in there
OK…–
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Anyone know of an easy way to get the front bolts out on a series
III seats? they look just about imposible to get to.


al mclean '93 XJS 4.0 - '84 4.2 Daimler - '84 DD6
Telford, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from almcl sent Fri 18 Apr 2008:

Thank YOU !! AL
I couldn,t believe how easy that was ! All I needed to do was to
replace the bottoms anyway.I Owe you a pint my freind
THANX !!
Mike–
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In reply to a message from low ufo sent Fri 18 Apr 2008:

Here’s a tip on putting the torx bolts back in; you may need
to use something sticky (like clear caulking) to hold the nut
on the tip of your finger while you position it under the bolt
and then turn the bolt into the nut from the top. It’s nearly
impossible to get a wrench or socket under neath the rails…

-Chris–
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In reply to a message from almcl sent Fri 18 Apr 2008:
Thank YOU !! AL
I couldn,t believe how easy that was ! All I needed to do was to
replace the bottoms anyway.I Owe you a pint my freind
THANX !!
Mike


Chris Los 1989 V12 Vanden Plas
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In reply to a message from thetopdogg sent Fri 18 Apr 2008:

Yeah, it is almost impossible to get a wrench under there,
and that’s making it impossible for me to get the seat out.
The bolts are rotating with the torx screws.

I can’t believe what a pain in the neck this is to get out.
Help needed.

Also, I’m taking the seat out because it won’t stay upright
when I lean back. If anyone knows what I should expect out of
that, please let me know. Should this be fixable, or will I
be looking for a new seat frame?–
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In reply to a message from low ufo sent Fri 18 Apr 2008:
Here’s a tip on putting the torx bolts back in; you may need
to use something sticky (like clear caulking) to hold the nut
on the tip of your finger while you position it under the bolt
and then turn the bolt into the nut from the top. It’s nearly
impossible to get a wrench or socket under neath the rails…
-Chris

I couldn,t believe how easy that was ! All I needed to do was to
replace the bottoms anyway.I Owe you a pint my freind
THANX !!
Mike


Buy Buy – Dan Davis 84 xj6
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In reply to a message from Daniel Davis sent Sat 3 Mar 2012:

OK. I managed to angle up a short wrench to hold the bolt in
place well enough to hold it while turning the torx bit.
What a pain. 13mm wrench.

What you really need for this are 90 degree and 45 degree
wrenches to hold the bolts in place. I assume they make
something like that, but I don’t have them.

When I put things back in, I’m planning on new bolts and new
nuts. Square nuts that are large enough to fill the channel,
so that they can’t turn, and probably allen bolts instead of
the T-40 torx.

I’m going to follow up in a new thread about the seat back
not staying upright.–
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Dan,

I have removed and replaced the front seats several times in my

Series III XJs and the torx bolts are always a PITA to remove and
replace. I have had good luck with a pair of long needle nose
locking vise grips to hold onto the nuts while tightening the bolts.
I usually think to myself something like “My isn’t this an interesting
way to bolt the seats into place?” while doing this, but with a few
more colorful adjectives thrown in along the way for emphasis.

Regards,

Paul M. Novak

1990 Series III V12 Vanden Plas
1990 XJ-S Classic Collection convertible
1987 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1984 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1969 E-Type FHC
1957 MK VIII Saloon
Ramona, CA
P.M.Novak7@gmail.comOn Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Daniel Davis buybuydandavis@yahoo.com wrote:

In reply to a message from Daniel Davis sent Sat 3 Mar 2012:

OK. I managed to angle up a short wrench to hold the bolt in
place well enough to hold it while turning the torx bit.
What a pain. 13mm wrench.

What you really need for this are 90 degree and 45 degree
wrenches to hold the bolts in place. I assume they make
something like that, but I don’t have them.

When I put things back in, I’m planning on new bolts and new
nuts. Square nuts that are large enough to fill the channel,
so that they can’t turn, and probably allen bolts instead of
the T-40 torx.

I’m going to follow up in a new thread about the seat back
not staying upright.

Buy Buy – Dan Davis 84 xj6

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In reply to a message from Paul Novak sent Sat 3 Mar 2012:

As I was working on the car, I was thinking how much I hate
car designers. A half inch here, a half inch there, and it
could have been a piece of cake. Instead, Hell.

Maybe car companies just put zero effort into building
maintainable cars. Maybe at the factory they have a million
and one custom jigs that make it all a snap.

On the other hand, I’m dealing with almost 30 year old
manufacturing techniques in my car. Cars at least look like
they’re designed for easier assembly/disassembly these days.–
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I usually think to myself something like ‘‘My isn’t this an interesting
way to bolt the seats into place?’’ while doing this, but with a few
more colorful adjectives thrown in along the way for emphasis.
Regards,
Paul M. Novak


Buy Buy – Dan Davis 84 xj6
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In reply to a message from Daniel Davis sent Sat 3 Mar 2012:

Paul,
You should try replacing the rear brake caliper pots on an
xke! Lot’s of fiddly things on jags!
Bill–
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As I was working on the car, I was thinking how much I hate
car designers. A half inch here, a half inch there, and it
could have been a piece of cake. Instead, Hell.


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In reply to a message from Daniel Davis sent Sat 3 Mar 2012:

Not the cars I get to ‘play’ with most modern cars you seem
to have take the car off the part!–
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On the other hand, I’m dealing with almost 30 year old
manufacturing techniques in my car. Cars at least look like
they’re designed for easier assembly/disassembly these days.


Keith Turner '79 XJ6 based Aristocat,
Swansea, United Kingdom
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